Posted by tangplay on 2/10/2019 4:50:00 PM (view original):Posted by strikeout26 on 2/10/2019 4:47:00 PM (view original):Posted by tangplay on 2/10/2019 4:38:00 PM (view original):Jefferson's point is true. Power tends to corrupt. That will happen regardless of what policies exist.So, do you disagree with our founding fathers that the way to combat this is by limiting government?Yes, because power will then corrupt the businesses and smaller governments. You think you can reduce the amount of power available?
Posted by strikeout26 on 2/10/2019 4:47:00 PM (view original):Posted by tangplay on 2/10/2019 4:38:00 PM (view original):Jefferson's point is true. Power tends to corrupt. That will happen regardless of what policies exist.So, do you disagree with our founding fathers that the way to combat this is by limiting government?
Posted by tangplay on 2/10/2019 4:38:00 PM (view original):Jefferson's point is true. Power tends to corrupt. That will happen regardless of what policies exist.
Posted by tangplay on 2/10/2019 4:52:00 PM (view original):Posted by cccp1014 on 2/10/2019 4:51:00 PM (view original):Posted by tangplay on 2/10/2019 4:50:00 PM (view original):Posted by strikeout26 on 2/10/2019 4:47:00 PM (view original):Posted by tangplay on 2/10/2019 4:38:00 PM (view original):Jefferson's point is true. Power tends to corrupt. That will happen regardless of what policies exist.So, do you disagree with our founding fathers that the way to combat this is by limiting government?Yes, because power will then corrupt the businesses and smaller governments. You think you can reduce the amount of power available? Big Govt doesn’t work. You’re arguing just to argue.Neither does no government or limited government. No system is perfect. I prefer a more centralized government with strong democratic institutions.
Posted by cccp1014 on 2/10/2019 4:51:00 PM (view original):Posted by tangplay on 2/10/2019 4:50:00 PM (view original):Posted by strikeout26 on 2/10/2019 4:47:00 PM (view original):Posted by tangplay on 2/10/2019 4:38:00 PM (view original):Jefferson's point is true. Power tends to corrupt. That will happen regardless of what policies exist.So, do you disagree with our founding fathers that the way to combat this is by limiting government?Yes, because power will then corrupt the businesses and smaller governments. You think you can reduce the amount of power available? Big Govt doesn’t work. You’re arguing just to argue.
Posted by cccp1014 on 2/10/2019 4:51:00 PM (view original):Posted by strikeout26 on 2/10/2019 4:51:00 PM (view original):Where was the ad hominem? I missed it.He was talking about me
Posted by strikeout26 on 2/10/2019 4:51:00 PM (view original):Where was the ad hominem? I missed it.
Posted by strikeout26 on 2/10/2019 4:54:00 PM (view original):Posted by tangplay on 2/10/2019 4:50:00 PM (view original):Posted by strikeout26 on 2/10/2019 4:47:00 PM (view original):Posted by tangplay on 2/10/2019 4:38:00 PM (view original):Jefferson's point is true. Power tends to corrupt. That will happen regardless of what policies exist.So, do you disagree with our founding fathers that the way to combat this is by limiting government?Yes, because power will then corrupt the businesses and smaller governments. You think you can reduce the amount of power available? No, you can't limit the amount of power available. With a limited government you spread the power. I am not aware of any case in history where a business became tyrannical. Maybe someone can prove me wrong on this, but I have never heard or read about such a thing.
Posted by cccp1014 on 2/10/2019 3:40:00 PM (view original):Posted by tangplay on 2/9/2019 9:27:00 PM (view original):Posted by strikeout26 on 2/9/2019 8:42:00 PM (view original):Posted by wylie715 on 2/9/2019 8:35:00 PM (view original):Posted by strikeout26 on 2/9/2019 7:46:00 PM (view original):Posted by tangplay on 2/9/2019 5:47:00 PM (view original):Posted by wylie715 on 2/9/2019 4:12:00 PM (view original):Posted by tangplay on 2/9/2019 12:18:00 AM (view original):Education and infrastructure are two. Proportional paying is better than just paying the same amount.yeah, but the public education system and the infrastructure in this ountry have been going downhill for a while. Unfortunately, that is not where most of our taxes are going.Well, yeah, but those are still valid arguments. If it suits you, a lot of taxpayer money goes to the military. Interesting question: Should you be able to conscientiously object to your tax money going to the military?For sure. You can consciencely object to your tax dollars going to anything. It would be pointless as the majority of the country realize the necessity of a military, but you can object to whatever you want.of course it is necessary to have a military, but I question whether it is necessary to spend that much on it.. Also, I could be wrong, but I think tan was asking if it is legal to object to takes going to the military by not paying said taxes. I don 't think anyone likes paying taxes, regardless of what they pay for.Yeah, we could definitely cut the military budget by a significant portion and still have just as strong of a military.We are all in agreement here.Nope. That post was idiotic. Military budget is just fine we need to cut entitlements.
Posted by tangplay on 2/9/2019 9:27:00 PM (view original):Posted by strikeout26 on 2/9/2019 8:42:00 PM (view original):Posted by wylie715 on 2/9/2019 8:35:00 PM (view original):Posted by strikeout26 on 2/9/2019 7:46:00 PM (view original):Posted by tangplay on 2/9/2019 5:47:00 PM (view original):Posted by wylie715 on 2/9/2019 4:12:00 PM (view original):Posted by tangplay on 2/9/2019 12:18:00 AM (view original):Education and infrastructure are two. Proportional paying is better than just paying the same amount.yeah, but the public education system and the infrastructure in this ountry have been going downhill for a while. Unfortunately, that is not where most of our taxes are going.Well, yeah, but those are still valid arguments. If it suits you, a lot of taxpayer money goes to the military. Interesting question: Should you be able to conscientiously object to your tax money going to the military?For sure. You can consciencely object to your tax dollars going to anything. It would be pointless as the majority of the country realize the necessity of a military, but you can object to whatever you want.of course it is necessary to have a military, but I question whether it is necessary to spend that much on it.. Also, I could be wrong, but I think tan was asking if it is legal to object to takes going to the military by not paying said taxes. I don 't think anyone likes paying taxes, regardless of what they pay for.Yeah, we could definitely cut the military budget by a significant portion and still have just as strong of a military.We are all in agreement here.
Posted by strikeout26 on 2/9/2019 8:42:00 PM (view original):Posted by wylie715 on 2/9/2019 8:35:00 PM (view original):Posted by strikeout26 on 2/9/2019 7:46:00 PM (view original):Posted by tangplay on 2/9/2019 5:47:00 PM (view original):Posted by wylie715 on 2/9/2019 4:12:00 PM (view original):Posted by tangplay on 2/9/2019 12:18:00 AM (view original):Education and infrastructure are two. Proportional paying is better than just paying the same amount.yeah, but the public education system and the infrastructure in this ountry have been going downhill for a while. Unfortunately, that is not where most of our taxes are going.Well, yeah, but those are still valid arguments. If it suits you, a lot of taxpayer money goes to the military. Interesting question: Should you be able to conscientiously object to your tax money going to the military?For sure. You can consciencely object to your tax dollars going to anything. It would be pointless as the majority of the country realize the necessity of a military, but you can object to whatever you want.of course it is necessary to have a military, but I question whether it is necessary to spend that much on it.. Also, I could be wrong, but I think tan was asking if it is legal to object to takes going to the military by not paying said taxes. I don 't think anyone likes paying taxes, regardless of what they pay for.Yeah, we could definitely cut the military budget by a significant portion and still have just as strong of a military.
Posted by wylie715 on 2/9/2019 8:35:00 PM (view original):Posted by strikeout26 on 2/9/2019 7:46:00 PM (view original):Posted by tangplay on 2/9/2019 5:47:00 PM (view original):Posted by wylie715 on 2/9/2019 4:12:00 PM (view original):Posted by tangplay on 2/9/2019 12:18:00 AM (view original):Education and infrastructure are two. Proportional paying is better than just paying the same amount.yeah, but the public education system and the infrastructure in this ountry have been going downhill for a while. Unfortunately, that is not where most of our taxes are going.Well, yeah, but those are still valid arguments. If it suits you, a lot of taxpayer money goes to the military. Interesting question: Should you be able to conscientiously object to your tax money going to the military?For sure. You can consciencely object to your tax dollars going to anything. It would be pointless as the majority of the country realize the necessity of a military, but you can object to whatever you want.of course it is necessary to have a military, but I question whether it is necessary to spend that much on it.. Also, I could be wrong, but I think tan was asking if it is legal to object to takes going to the military by not paying said taxes. I don 't think anyone likes paying taxes, regardless of what they pay for.
Posted by strikeout26 on 2/9/2019 7:46:00 PM (view original):Posted by tangplay on 2/9/2019 5:47:00 PM (view original):Posted by wylie715 on 2/9/2019 4:12:00 PM (view original):Posted by tangplay on 2/9/2019 12:18:00 AM (view original):Education and infrastructure are two. Proportional paying is better than just paying the same amount.yeah, but the public education system and the infrastructure in this ountry have been going downhill for a while. Unfortunately, that is not where most of our taxes are going.Well, yeah, but those are still valid arguments. If it suits you, a lot of taxpayer money goes to the military. Interesting question: Should you be able to conscientiously object to your tax money going to the military?For sure. You can consciencely object to your tax dollars going to anything. It would be pointless as the majority of the country realize the necessity of a military, but you can object to whatever you want.
Posted by tangplay on 2/9/2019 5:47:00 PM (view original):Posted by wylie715 on 2/9/2019 4:12:00 PM (view original):Posted by tangplay on 2/9/2019 12:18:00 AM (view original):Education and infrastructure are two. Proportional paying is better than just paying the same amount.yeah, but the public education system and the infrastructure in this ountry have been going downhill for a while. Unfortunately, that is not where most of our taxes are going.Well, yeah, but those are still valid arguments. If it suits you, a lot of taxpayer money goes to the military. Interesting question: Should you be able to conscientiously object to your tax money going to the military?
Posted by wylie715 on 2/9/2019 4:12:00 PM (view original):Posted by tangplay on 2/9/2019 12:18:00 AM (view original):Education and infrastructure are two. Proportional paying is better than just paying the same amount.yeah, but the public education system and the infrastructure in this ountry have been going downhill for a while. Unfortunately, that is not where most of our taxes are going.
Posted by tangplay on 2/9/2019 12:18:00 AM (view original):Education and infrastructure are two. Proportional paying is better than just paying the same amount.
Posted by gomiami1972 on 2/10/2019 4:57:00 PM (view original):Posted by strikeout26 on 2/10/2019 4:54:00 PM (view original):Posted by tangplay on 2/10/2019 4:50:00 PM (view original):Posted by strikeout26 on 2/10/2019 4:47:00 PM (view original):Posted by tangplay on 2/10/2019 4:38:00 PM (view original):Jefferson's point is true. Power tends to corrupt. That will happen regardless of what policies exist.So, do you disagree with our founding fathers that the way to combat this is by limiting government?Yes, because power will then corrupt the businesses and smaller governments. You think you can reduce the amount of power available? No, you can't limit the amount of power available. With a limited government you spread the power. I am not aware of any case in history where a business became tyrannical. Maybe someone can prove me wrong on this, but I have never heard or read about such a thing.Please see The Netherlands.
Posted by strikeout26 on 2/10/2019 5:02:00 PM (view original):Posted by gomiami1972 on 2/10/2019 4:57:00 PM (view original):Posted by strikeout26 on 2/10/2019 4:54:00 PM (view original):Posted by tangplay on 2/10/2019 4:50:00 PM (view original):Posted by strikeout26 on 2/10/2019 4:47:00 PM (view original):Posted by tangplay on 2/10/2019 4:38:00 PM (view original):Jefferson's point is true. Power tends to corrupt. That will happen regardless of what policies exist.So, do you disagree with our founding fathers that the way to combat this is by limiting government?Yes, because power will then corrupt the businesses and smaller governments. You think you can reduce the amount of power available? No, you can't limit the amount of power available. With a limited government you spread the power. I am not aware of any case in history where a business became tyrannical. Maybe someone can prove me wrong on this, but I have never heard or read about such a thing.Please see The Netherlands.Not finding anything. What I am searching for specifically.
Posted by wylie715 on 2/10/2019 4:59:00 PM (view original):Posted by cccp1014 on 2/10/2019 3:40:00 PM (view original):Posted by tangplay on 2/9/2019 9:27:00 PM (view original):Posted by strikeout26 on 2/9/2019 8:42:00 PM (view original):Posted by wylie715 on 2/9/2019 8:35:00 PM (view original):Posted by strikeout26 on 2/9/2019 7:46:00 PM (view original):Posted by tangplay on 2/9/2019 5:47:00 PM (view original):Posted by wylie715 on 2/9/2019 4:12:00 PM (view original):Posted by tangplay on 2/9/2019 12:18:00 AM (view original):Education and infrastructure are two. Proportional paying is better than just paying the same amount.yeah, but the public education system and the infrastructure in this ountry have been going downhill for a while. Unfortunately, that is not where most of our taxes are going.Well, yeah, but those are still valid arguments. If it suits you, a lot of taxpayer money goes to the military. Interesting question: Should you be able to conscientiously object to your tax money going to the military?For sure. You can consciencely object to your tax dollars going to anything. It would be pointless as the majority of the country realize the necessity of a military, but you can object to whatever you want.of course it is necessary to have a military, but I question whether it is necessary to spend that much on it.. Also, I could be wrong, but I think tan was asking if it is legal to object to takes going to the military by not paying said taxes. I don 't think anyone likes paying taxes, regardless of what they pay for.Yeah, we could definitely cut the military budget by a significant portion and still have just as strong of a military.We are all in agreement here.Nope. That post was idiotic. Military budget is just fine we need to cut entitlements. just because you don't agree with something, does not make it idiotic.
Posted by gomiami1972 on 2/10/2019 5:03:00 PM (view original):Posted by strikeout26 on 2/10/2019 5:02:00 PM (view original):Posted by gomiami1972 on 2/10/2019 4:57:00 PM (view original):Posted by strikeout26 on 2/10/2019 4:54:00 PM (view original):Posted by tangplay on 2/10/2019 4:50:00 PM (view original):Posted by strikeout26 on 2/10/2019 4:47:00 PM (view original):Posted by tangplay on 2/10/2019 4:38:00 PM (view original):Jefferson's point is true. Power tends to corrupt. That will happen regardless of what policies exist.So, do you disagree with our founding fathers that the way to combat this is by limiting government?Yes, because power will then corrupt the businesses and smaller governments. You think you can reduce the amount of power available? No, you can't limit the amount of power available. With a limited government you spread the power. I am not aware of any case in history where a business became tyrannical. Maybe someone can prove me wrong on this, but I have never heard or read about such a thing.Please see The Netherlands.Not finding anything. What I am searching for specifically.The Dutch East India Company
Posted by strikeout26 on 2/10/2019 4:56:00 PM (view original):Posted by tangplay on 2/10/2019 4:52:00 PM (view original):Posted by cccp1014 on 2/10/2019 4:51:00 PM (view original):Posted by tangplay on 2/10/2019 4:50:00 PM (view original):Posted by strikeout26 on 2/10/2019 4:47:00 PM (view original):Posted by tangplay on 2/10/2019 4:38:00 PM (view original):Jefferson's point is true. Power tends to corrupt. That will happen regardless of what policies exist.So, do you disagree with our founding fathers that the way to combat this is by limiting government?Yes, because power will then corrupt the businesses and smaller governments. You think you can reduce the amount of power available? Big Govt doesn’t work. You’re arguing just to argue.Neither does no government or limited government. No system is perfect. I prefer a more centralized government with strong democratic institutions.Ah, we're getting to the crux of the issue. Let's continue. Do you believe that with the freedom to succeed comes the freedom to fail?
Posted by strikeout26 on 2/10/2019 5:14:00 PM (view original):Posted by gomiami1972 on 2/10/2019 5:03:00 PM (view original):Posted by strikeout26 on 2/10/2019 5:02:00 PM (view original):Posted by gomiami1972 on 2/10/2019 4:57:00 PM (view original):Posted by strikeout26 on 2/10/2019 4:54:00 PM (view original):Posted by tangplay on 2/10/2019 4:50:00 PM (view original):Posted by strikeout26 on 2/10/2019 4:47:00 PM (view original):Posted by tangplay on 2/10/2019 4:38:00 PM (view original):Jefferson's point is true. Power tends to corrupt. That will happen regardless of what policies exist.So, do you disagree with our founding fathers that the way to combat this is by limiting government?Yes, because power will then corrupt the businesses and smaller governments. You think you can reduce the amount of power available? No, you can't limit the amount of power available. With a limited government you spread the power. I am not aware of any case in history where a business became tyrannical. Maybe someone can prove me wrong on this, but I have never heard or read about such a thing.Please see The Netherlands.Not finding anything. What I am searching for specifically.The Dutch East India CompanyOf course. Forgot about that. You are right. I believe that this example still supports my world philosophy. We have to remember that there is a glaring difference between corporatism and capitalism. I am a capitalist. I believe corporatism is dangerous.
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