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Posted by dino27 on 2/11/2019 10:02:00 PM (view original):
the gallop poll is not recent enough but the last poll i saw was 38%.
Yeah I'm not really concerned with SOTU. The way news runs these days, no one even remembers his horrible speech...other than the part where he threatened to end peace if the investigations into his corruption continue,.
2/11/2019 10:04 PM
There is a poll that shows his at 52% but then again he only needs 270. NY, CA and MA don’t really matter until the EC is eliminated and if the Dems run Warren he wins.
2/11/2019 10:23 PM
Posted by dino27 on 2/11/2019 10:01:00 PM (view original):
everyone gets a baby bump.....not likely to last.....
You said he had zero chance in 2016 then went on your childish redline rant. Let the adults converse.
2/11/2019 10:24 PM
Posted by cccp1014 on 2/11/2019 9:55:00 PM (view original):
In your opinion. Polls state he is more popular post the State of the Union. You being a compulsive liar and an illogical buffoon should not be insulting anyone. LOL.
Doubt that's directly related to SOTU, his numbers plummeted during shutdown and if shutdown continues/ if state of emergency is declared the numbers will go back down.

FWIW that's from 538
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/?ex_cid=rrpromo
2/11/2019 10:26 PM
Posted by cccp1014 on 2/11/2019 10:23:00 PM (view original):
There is a poll that shows his at 52% but then again he only needs 270. NY, CA and MA don’t really matter until the EC is eliminated and if the Dems run Warren he wins.
That's a huge outlier.

I think (unfortunately) it's gonna be Harris or Warren and Trump will crush them. I still think a Biden/Beto ticket beats Trump. Klobuchar would beat Trump.
2/11/2019 10:27 PM
CCCP, we need to get back to the US interventionism/Wall topic, b/c you never addressed my response to your arguments.
2/11/2019 10:28 PM
You had a response? Sounded like you agreed with me. Can we discuss why you and bad luck cannot decide between white privelege and black disadvantage? You seem to flip flop on that. And LOL on Amy. Her staff hates her.
2/11/2019 10:31 PM
Posted by cccp1014 on 2/11/2019 10:24:00 PM (view original):
Posted by dino27 on 2/11/2019 10:01:00 PM (view original):
everyone gets a baby bump.....not likely to last.....
You said he had zero chance in 2016 then went on your childish redline rant. Let the adults converse.
then why are you talking..i never said he had a zero chance..find that post..boy.
2/11/2019 10:32 PM
i like amy a lot.....if actually being too tough on her staff is her crime that should be a peccadillo among real hardcore vetting.
2/11/2019 10:34 PM
Posted by cccp1014 on 2/11/2019 10:31:00 PM (view original):
You had a response? Sounded like you agreed with me. Can we discuss why you and bad luck cannot decide between white privelege and black disadvantage? You seem to flip flop on that. And LOL on Amy. Her staff hates her.
I haven't used the term 'white privilege' in a while.

The staff thing looks bad but if she learns from it then it will be fine. Seems like she is more moderate. Midwesterner. I like it.
2/11/2019 10:34 PM
trump is working on the peckerdillo problem now.
dilly dilly.
2/11/2019 10:35 PM
Posted by dino27 on 2/11/2019 10:32:00 PM (view original):
Posted by cccp1014 on 2/11/2019 10:24:00 PM (view original):
Posted by dino27 on 2/11/2019 10:01:00 PM (view original):
everyone gets a baby bump.....not likely to last.....
You said he had zero chance in 2016 then went on your childish redline rant. Let the adults converse.
then why are you talking..i never said he had a zero chance..find that post..boy.
You redlined it.
2/11/2019 10:35 PM
Posted by tangplay on 2/11/2019 1:55:00 PM (view original):
Posted by cccp1014 on 2/11/2019 12:52:00 PM (view original):
Posted by tangplay on 2/11/2019 11:57:00 AM (view original):
Oh, and the wall is a ridiculous waste of money.
Why? The border agents say otherwise. Are you smarter than our border agents? It works very well in Israel.
No they don't. And even if they did, it's irrelevant. The CMS caught people going over the current fence with a rope and ladder and under it with a tunnel last week. Wall don't stop that. Wall also don't stop the people entering through VISA and overstaying. The wall would, presumably, stop SOME illegal immigration but it certainly isn't worth 60 bil. Also hurts environment and creates flooding. Tech is much better. Also, the asylum process would be basically impossible, which sucks for many from central America.

Also, Israel is not the US. Wall is not as long, not for same purposes, different geography, etc. Every problem that I just mentioned doesn't really apply to Israel for some reason or another.
For CCCP
2/11/2019 10:35 PM
Posted by tangplay on 2/11/2019 11:56:00 AM (view original):
Posted by cccp1014 on 2/11/2019 10:32:00 AM (view original):
I'll strat of with America First. And to that point:
  1. Mexico is sending drugs over and criminals. The country is on our southern border and is run by cartels. If you Google Mexican resorts you'll see that even they are no longer very safe. Building the wall is the beginning but we also need a strategy to stabilize our neighbors in Latin America so that they feel safe at home and don't have to migrate to the US. I am not sure how you deal with the cartels but they need to be eliminated.
  2. Israel is our only true ally and democracy in the Middle East. We should be supporting them full stop because Europe remains antisemitic and doesn't care about that small country (size of NJ). All these BDS movements, also perpetuated by our Democrat friends in Congress are not helping and if you again use Google you will see that Jews are in fact moving away from the Blue party because of this. I had lunch with a client from NY last week and he said that his wife and her family, lifelong Democracts are moving away from that party. Although only half to the GOP and the other half to the Libertarians. My parents did the same as did many of their friends. We need to continue to support Israel despite what the Democrats say. Middle East is an unstable chaotic mess and Israel is a necessary ally and eye in the sky.
  3. China is bigger threat than Russia with their continual theft of tech, trade wars, sending over thousands of students who take the spots of Americans because they pay double the tuition fee and then going back to China. This is less a military war but more a culture war. We need to win it.

Other than those three examples I am not really pro American intervention. And tang, honestly, debating you is pointless. With all due respect you're just too uneducated and inexperienced.
1. Classic xenophobia and racism aside, Mexico is an issue. Not sure how we handle it but interventions are not the answer. Keep in mind that the only reason Central America is this way is because of our own military policies.

2. How do we 'support' Israel? BDS is wrong but Jews are still majority dem. We need to get the hell out of the middle east. Try to use diplomacy to keep nukes away from Iran and Pakistan.

3. China can spend itself to death and collapse as far as I care.


Unless we are attacked, we should not intervene in any global conflicts aside from humanitarian efforts. Even then we should be peaceful. We need to stop creating new enemies to fight.
For CCCP.
2/11/2019 10:36 PM
Posted by cccp1014 on 2/11/2019 10:35:00 PM (view original):
Posted by dino27 on 2/11/2019 10:32:00 PM (view original):
Posted by cccp1014 on 2/11/2019 10:24:00 PM (view original):
Posted by dino27 on 2/11/2019 10:01:00 PM (view original):
everyone gets a baby bump.....not likely to last.....
You said he had zero chance in 2016 then went on your childish redline rant. Let the adults converse.
then why are you talking..i never said he had a zero chance..find that post..boy.
You redlined it.
How do you redline your own post?lol
2/11/2019 10:36 PM
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