Tang, i'm not sure you can say that it wouldn't increase it with any certainty. I think what would have to be done is compare drunk driving during abolition to post abolition, which I would imagine is very difficult.

#1 issue for Americans is neither drugs nor alcohol but bad food. We are the fattest country and our kids are actually becoming fat. From Starbucks to Dunkins to McDonald’s to BK. It is a damn epidemic and smoking pot causes you to be stupid and to eat more. I think All drugs should be legalized. If you’re an idiot and want to do them then do them. But we need to put warning labels on BAD food because the munchies hit and people end up eating even more bad food and tang and bad luck and rsp cry about racism by skinny people are a lot more likely to be successful than fat people regardless of their skin color.

So I am OK with legalizing so long as you inform kids that it can cause an increase in appetite and make you fat and stupid. And seeing bad luck, fat and stupid is not a good way to go through life.

Posted by cccp1014 on 2/14/2019 10:21:00 AM (view original):
#1 issue for Americans is neither drugs nor alcohol but bad food. We are the fattest country and our kids are actually becoming fat. From Starbucks to Dunkins to McDonald’s to BK. It is a damn epidemic and smoking pot causes you to be stupid and to eat more. I think All drugs should be legalized. If you’re an idiot and want to do them then do them. But we need to put warning labels on BAD food because the munchies hit and people end up eating even more bad food and tang and bad luck and rsp cry about racism by skinny people are a lot more likely to be successful than fat people regardless of their skin color.

So I am OK with legalizing so long as you inform kids that it can cause an increase in appetite and make you fat and stupid. And seeing bad luck, fat and stupid is not a good way to go through life.

LOL. Good post Boris. Pluswise I agree with it.

Coach. Marijuana FLOWER is not "benign".
It's usage in MOST humans does NOT produce the scary effects you delineate (most folks still "give a ****" about everything they gave a **** about before)
Most folks don't become lazy and useless.
Some people can't handle many things available to them without becoming useless in some folks viewpoint.

Responsible individuals establish "rules" of self control and personal public behavior that effects WHAT they do when doing dangerous or enjoyable activities. Most responsible folks (for just one example) when choosing to engage in intimate behavior with some damsel in distress whom they don't know fully will choose to "wrap that rascal" before proceeding.
The same sorts of "rules of self control" apply to Marijuana usage.
Wise folks always eat prior to imbibing thus dealing with the widely know side effect that Boris is concerned about. Legitimately BTW!
Wise folks use creatively inspiring strains during the day when attempting to produce creative work, for another example.
I'm afraid you are trafficking in hysterical propaganda in your assertions.

That is NOT to say that everyone should smoke Marijuana flower nor that it is benign.
Likely, as with all things. It is helpful to some folks, and quite harmful to others.
Just like information........... or food.
Both can be dangerous if misused and abused.

Wouldn't dare suggest that all3 smoke some flower.
I'm pretty sure the result would be potentially perilous.
It COULD result in much confusion and concern. Not everyone can deal with learning that long held preconceptions and beliefs are wrong. Their self identification can get turned upside down.

Imagine IF somebody like that all the sudden "got in touch" with their feminine side.
The next day they could wake up scared examining themselves in the mirror for "changes" or something..............

LaramieBob, the data I posted refers to chronic use of Marijuana. I'm not saying that if you smoke a joint once in a blue moon it is going to ruin your life. It was tough to gage the long term effects as there weren't many studies on it, but we now are seeing more and more longitudinal studies that show the damage that it does to brain matter. It is especially damaging to adolescents where their brains are still forming. Like I said, anyone can look up the studies and draw your own conclusions.

So you are suggesting a legal age for marijuana?

Posted by strikeout26 on 2/14/2019 9:17:00 AM (view original):
Oh, it's very dangerous to the part of the brain associated with decision making and emotional processing. The science proves this. It makes you not give a **** about life. Marijuana is very dangerous. It's just not the governments place to save people from making stupid decisions that don't directly harm anyone else.

It's not "very dangerous." The only study I've seen on emotional processing was the 2016 Colorado study and the researchers hedged pretty hard in their conclusion:

The study seems to suggest that the brain's ability to process emotion is affected by cannabis, but there may be some compensation that counteracts those differences. There's no difference between users and non-users when they're directed to a specific emotion. But on a deeper level of emotion processing -- depicted by the ability to empathize -- the response is reduced in cannabis users.

For sure. I think there has to be a legal age. I would say 18 is the correct age. We have determined that 18 is a legal adult. Adults should be allowed to make their own choices.

Fair strikeout.

Posted by bad_luck on 2/14/2019 11:27:00 AM (view original):

Posted by strikeout26 on 2/14/2019 9:17:00 AM (view original):
Oh, it's very dangerous to the part of the brain associated with decision making and emotional processing. The science proves this. It makes you not give a **** about life. Marijuana is very dangerous. It's just not the governments place to save people from making stupid decisions that don't directly harm anyone else.

It's not "very dangerous." The only study I've seen on emotional processing was the 2016 Colorado study and the researchers hedged pretty hard in their conclusion:

The study seems to suggest that the brain's ability to process emotion is affected by cannabis, but there may be some compensation that counteracts those differences. There's no difference between users and non-users when they're directed to a specific emotion. But on a deeper level of emotion processing -- depicted by the ability to empathize -- the response is reduced in cannabis users.

Did you read the article from the APA?

"So you are suggesting a legal age for marijuana?"

Not me man. Prior to age 18 it is the "families" business/role. Parents should KNOW what their child is doing and guiding/advising them. Young minds are overly impressionable and it seems to me that the less "alteration" of the brain's chemistry and communication the better.

Once a person reaches that magic # of 18, they should be "on their own" when it comes to these kinds of choices. The gov't should have no role. You want to be a pig and eat BBQ all day? Go ahead. You'll die sooner than the rest of us. And, as you've already shown us by the eating example, you're selfish and stupid, likely worthless and the rest of us would be better off without you......... so, in essence, good riddance. We have too many stupid people already in this Country. Millions and millions of them. Celebrate Valentine's day............. don't breed with the ignorant. Stop reproducing dummies!!

As someone who smokes weed or eats an edible a couple times a month, I'll say this:

- It definitely impairs your ability to drive. People that claim you can drive high no big deal are wrong.
- There's no way to really test for it in a DUI situation. THC stays in your system for days or weeks after use. But you aren't high.
- On the other hand, anyone who is willing to drive high now wasn't worried about whether or not weed was legal before.
- It's way easier on my late-30's body than alcohol
- You can't kill yourself with weed
- It's not addictive in the traditional sense. People can get "addicted" to weed like they get addicted to french fries but there isn't a withdrawal issue or anything like that.
- Big picture, it's relatively harmless when compared to opiods or benzos or a myriad of prescription drugs.

Posted by strikeout26 on 2/14/2019 11:32:00 AM (view original):

Posted by bad_luck on 2/14/2019 11:27:00 AM (view original):

Posted by strikeout26 on 2/14/2019 9:17:00 AM (view original):
Oh, it's very dangerous to the part of the brain associated with decision making and emotional processing. The science proves this. It makes you not give a **** about life. Marijuana is very dangerous. It's just not the governments place to save people from making stupid decisions that don't directly harm anyone else.

It's not "very dangerous." The only study I've seen on emotional processing was the 2016 Colorado study and the researchers hedged pretty hard in their conclusion:

The study seems to suggest that the brain's ability to process emotion is affected by cannabis, but there may be some compensation that counteracts those differences. There's no difference between users and non-users when they're directed to a specific emotion. But on a deeper level of emotion processing -- depicted by the ability to empathize -- the response is reduced in cannabis users.

Did you read the article from the APA?

Link?

I had heard about Troup's study before. I got this excerpt from the Colorado State University website.

Posted by laramiebob on 2/14/2019 11:33:00 AM (view original):
"So you are suggesting a legal age for marijuana?"

Not me man. Prior to age 18 it is the "families" business/role. Parents should KNOW what their child is doing and guiding/advising them. Young minds are overly impressionable and it seems to me that the less "alteration" of the brain's chemistry and communication the better.

Once a person reaches that magic # of 18, they should be "on their own" when it comes to these kinds of choices. The gov't should have no role. You want to be a pig and eat BBQ all day? Go ahead. You'll die sooner than the rest of us. And, as you've already shown us by the eating example, you're selfish and stupid, likely worthless and the rest of us would be better off without you......... so, in essence, good riddance. We have too many stupid people already in this Country. Millions and millions of them. Celebrate Valentine's day............. don't breed with the ignorant. Stop reproducing dummies!!

Do you feel this way on everything that we already have a legal age for? (i.e. cigarettes, alcohol, labor)

Posted by strikeout26 on 2/14/2019 10:09:00 AM (view original):
https://www.apa.org/monitor/2015/11/marijuana-brain

Might want to point the joint down for a second while you read a couple of studies. Here is a summary of some longitudinal studies from the apa. (The studies aren't from the apa, the summary is). You may research the actual studies if you like and come up with your own opinions.

For B_L.