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i'm curious if you believe in ozone holes

i'm curious if you believe fluorocarbons make ozone holes

i'm curious if you believe closing the worldwide spigot on fluorocarbons can close an ozone hole

i'm curious if you believe an ozone hole is closing
2/24/2019 3:35 PM (edited)
Exactly bronx. It really doesn't matter if it is manmade or not.
2/24/2019 1:04 PM
Posted by gomiami1972 on 2/24/2019 12:54:00 PM (view original):
Posted by tangplay on 2/24/2019 10:40:00 AM (view original):
Also, what's the financial gain to fake all of this?

Wouldn't it be more logical for it to be the other way around? We alreadt know that scientists have been paid to issue anti-climate change studies.
Hey tang,

Look, I have spoken with enough Global Warming adherents to know the drill. I will get asked to explain all of these phenomena. The problem is that, while it is a fact that sea levels are rising, it is NOT a fact that Climate Change, as intentionally, nebulously ill-defined by the political Environmentalists, is the cause. By asking the question, it insinuates a cause and effect relationship between sea levels and Climate Change. It is a rhetorical strategy that uses a loaded question. Science employs methods to isolate a variable that can then be tested repeatedly to acheive a predictable result. The question is asked FIRST and then the conclusion is written after the tests are performed. What's going on right now is the opposite. Researchers begin with a conclusion (Gobal Warming is the cause) and then work backwards to support it. Why? Because there isn't a variable that can be isolated due to the vastness of the question. Read up on String Theory or Einstein's Unified Field Theory. They are great examples of when "science" tackles too vast of a question and simply starts guessing. Scientists really don't know why sea levels are rising and can't prove it cause through the scientific method. So, they have created a plausible guess which is, in effect, a belief system. You either believe in Climate Change (like people believe in a God) or you don't.

One of these days, the definitive Environmental manifesto will be released and we will all finally understand what the goals behind this really is. Perhaps the Green New Deal is that document, although I doubt it, where the facade over caring about the planet can finally be dropped and we will all be told what is at stake (hint: it's a desire for absolute power.) Until then, the game stretches on with no end in sight. Al Gore is bound to make a third documentary - An Inconvenient Hoax that Made Me a Lot of Money and Set Up a New Global Socio-Political Power Elite.
The fact that sea levels are rising is, by definition, climate change. That ends the debate. You are doing the exact same thing in your logic that you accuse researchers of doing. You have come to the conclusion that the whole thing is a conspiracy. You don't know why yet. You are looking for why. There is no financial incentive to pay out a bunch of scientists to fake studies to achieve a goal of.... Losing money. It doesn't make any semblence of logical sense. Maybe people really do want to care for the planet. Maybe climate change is real. One thing that I do know: Big Solar doesn't exist. Big Oil does.

Again, sea levels are rising. That's a measurable fact. Glaciers are melting. That's a fact. Worldwide temperatures are rising. That's a fact. Those are all observations. My hypothesis is that these things are bad and we should try to stop them. Islands are already going underwater. These are things you cannot deny.

We aren't guessing as to why sea levels are rising. Let's say you have a glass of water with ice in it. You leave it in 100 degree weather. The ice will melt and the water levels will rise. It's 3rd grade science.

Regardless of the cause, the fact that water levelevels are rising is a problem that needs solving. That's not up for debate.
2/24/2019 1:14 PM
If it is manmade or not, it is still a problem that needs solving. You are arguing about an irrelevant topic.
2/24/2019 1:16 PM
Posted by tangplay on 2/24/2019 1:16:00 PM (view original):
If it is manmade or not, it is still a problem that needs solving. You are arguing about an irrelevant topic.
????

You need a class in debating because you suck at it. Suck as badly as bad luck.
2/24/2019 1:18 PM
Posted by cccp1014 on 2/24/2019 1:18:00 PM (view original):
Posted by tangplay on 2/24/2019 1:16:00 PM (view original):
If it is manmade or not, it is still a problem that needs solving. You are arguing about an irrelevant topic.
????

You need a class in debating because you suck at it. Suck as badly as bad luck.
If the problem is manmade or not, it is still a problem.

Just because humans didn't create hurricanes doesn't mean that we don't try to take cover from them.
2/24/2019 1:21 PM
Posted by gomiami1972 on 2/23/2019 9:01:00 PM (view original):
Posted by strikeout26 on 2/21/2019 8:28:00 AM (view original):
Topic of the day: Global Warming

Is it real or a hoax?
If it's real, is it manmade or a natural cycle?
How do you combat it?
Was is government's role, if any, in combating it?
I missed this one.

Hoax.
There is nothing to combat.

Global Warming is the biggest pseudo-science cult of our lifetimes. It is such a joke the authors had to modify the name to Climate Change and people are still laughing. These clowns keep going back and forth between saying that the we are all already dead because it is too late to we need to act within the next XX years or we will all die. It's comical every time some Al Gore-like nimrod makes another doomsday prophecy. Of course, they don't really believe any of this crap. The masses believe it because the average IQ in the USA is 92. Global Warming is all about money, power and control. It is a new-age new religion that substitutes going to worship once a week with nightly indoctrination as you watch the evening news. Outrageous.
Thing is, we know that an increase in carbon in the atmosphere is causing the planet to warm.

We also know that the ratio of naturally occurring atmospheric carbon to atmospheric carbon caused by the burning of fossil fuels has shifted dramatically over the last 50 years.

We also know that the people with the the biggest financial interest in denying man-made climate change—oil companies—all publicly acknowledge that climate change is man-made and knew, privately, as far back as the 1970s that fossil fuel burning was a major contributor.
2/24/2019 1:23 PM
Yet the oil companies have paid scientists to put out studies that back up their claims.
2/24/2019 1:24 PM
Posted by cccp1014 on 2/24/2019 1:18:00 PM (view original):
Posted by tangplay on 2/24/2019 1:16:00 PM (view original):
If it is manmade or not, it is still a problem that needs solving. You are arguing about an irrelevant topic.
????

You need a class in debating because you suck at it. Suck as badly as bad luck.
LOL.

Cmon Tang, you need to go to the Comrade School of Debate....when faced with facts that beat down your argument, use an anecdote from your two minority friends who have NEVER faced any of the issues you're talking about. When that fails, call names or disparage.


step your game up bro.
2/24/2019 1:26 PM
Posted by tangplay on 2/24/2019 1:14:00 PM (view original):
Posted by gomiami1972 on 2/24/2019 12:54:00 PM (view original):
Posted by tangplay on 2/24/2019 10:40:00 AM (view original):
Also, what's the financial gain to fake all of this?

Wouldn't it be more logical for it to be the other way around? We alreadt know that scientists have been paid to issue anti-climate change studies.
Hey tang,

Look, I have spoken with enough Global Warming adherents to know the drill. I will get asked to explain all of these phenomena. The problem is that, while it is a fact that sea levels are rising, it is NOT a fact that Climate Change, as intentionally, nebulously ill-defined by the political Environmentalists, is the cause. By asking the question, it insinuates a cause and effect relationship between sea levels and Climate Change. It is a rhetorical strategy that uses a loaded question. Science employs methods to isolate a variable that can then be tested repeatedly to acheive a predictable result. The question is asked FIRST and then the conclusion is written after the tests are performed. What's going on right now is the opposite. Researchers begin with a conclusion (Gobal Warming is the cause) and then work backwards to support it. Why? Because there isn't a variable that can be isolated due to the vastness of the question. Read up on String Theory or Einstein's Unified Field Theory. They are great examples of when "science" tackles too vast of a question and simply starts guessing. Scientists really don't know why sea levels are rising and can't prove it cause through the scientific method. So, they have created a plausible guess which is, in effect, a belief system. You either believe in Climate Change (like people believe in a God) or you don't.

One of these days, the definitive Environmental manifesto will be released and we will all finally understand what the goals behind this really is. Perhaps the Green New Deal is that document, although I doubt it, where the facade over caring about the planet can finally be dropped and we will all be told what is at stake (hint: it's a desire for absolute power.) Until then, the game stretches on with no end in sight. Al Gore is bound to make a third documentary - An Inconvenient Hoax that Made Me a Lot of Money and Set Up a New Global Socio-Political Power Elite.
The fact that sea levels are rising is, by definition, climate change. That ends the debate. You are doing the exact same thing in your logic that you accuse researchers of doing. You have come to the conclusion that the whole thing is a conspiracy. You don't know why yet. You are looking for why. There is no financial incentive to pay out a bunch of scientists to fake studies to achieve a goal of.... Losing money. It doesn't make any semblence of logical sense. Maybe people really do want to care for the planet. Maybe climate change is real. One thing that I do know: Big Solar doesn't exist. Big Oil does.

Again, sea levels are rising. That's a measurable fact. Glaciers are melting. That's a fact. Worldwide temperatures are rising. That's a fact. Those are all observations. My hypothesis is that these things are bad and we should try to stop them. Islands are already going underwater. These are things you cannot deny.

We aren't guessing as to why sea levels are rising. Let's say you have a glass of water with ice in it. You leave it in 100 degree weather. The ice will melt and the water levels will rise. It's 3rd grade science.

Regardless of the cause, the fact that water levelevels are rising is a problem that needs solving. That's not up for debate.
Well, good talk, tang. I suspect that's why the name was changed from Global Warming to Climate Change. The climate has been changing for six billion years so the concept is indisputable. With that foundation, anything can be constructed on top of it for the true believer to swallow whole.

Again, you can't argue with a belief system. I once tried to talk with a Jehova's Witness. It was amusing. They had an answer for everything.

You wish to believe we are all going to burn to a crisp, then God Speed.
2/24/2019 1:27 PM
Posted by The Taint on 2/24/2019 1:26:00 PM (view original):
Posted by cccp1014 on 2/24/2019 1:18:00 PM (view original):
Posted by tangplay on 2/24/2019 1:16:00 PM (view original):
If it is manmade or not, it is still a problem that needs solving. You are arguing about an irrelevant topic.
????

You need a class in debating because you suck at it. Suck as badly as bad luck.
LOL.

Cmon Tang, you need to go to the Comrade School of Debate....when faced with facts that beat down your argument, use an anecdote from your two minority friends who have NEVER faced any of the issues you're talking about. When that fails, call names or disparage.


step your game up bro.
lol, that's awesome because it is so true.
2/24/2019 1:29 PM
Posted by The Taint on 2/24/2019 1:26:00 PM (view original):
Posted by cccp1014 on 2/24/2019 1:18:00 PM (view original):
Posted by tangplay on 2/24/2019 1:16:00 PM (view original):
If it is manmade or not, it is still a problem that needs solving. You are arguing about an irrelevant topic.
????

You need a class in debating because you suck at it. Suck as badly as bad luck.
LOL.

Cmon Tang, you need to go to the Comrade School of Debate....when faced with facts that beat down your argument, use an anecdote from your two minority friends who have NEVER faced any of the issues you're talking about. When that fails, call names or disparage.


step your game up bro.
Oh, Ok.

Yo CCCP is a ******* moron idiot.

My two college scientist friends say that climate change is real.

You are a fat jewish piece of ****, why dont you just run back to boston with your other patriots fans and go back to sucking tom bradys dick
2/24/2019 1:29 PM
Topic: Is God real?
2/24/2019 1:30 PM
Posted by tangplay on 2/24/2019 1:29:00 PM (view original):
Posted by The Taint on 2/24/2019 1:26:00 PM (view original):
Posted by cccp1014 on 2/24/2019 1:18:00 PM (view original):
Posted by tangplay on 2/24/2019 1:16:00 PM (view original):
If it is manmade or not, it is still a problem that needs solving. You are arguing about an irrelevant topic.
????

You need a class in debating because you suck at it. Suck as badly as bad luck.
LOL.

Cmon Tang, you need to go to the Comrade School of Debate....when faced with facts that beat down your argument, use an anecdote from your two minority friends who have NEVER faced any of the issues you're talking about. When that fails, call names or disparage.


step your game up bro.
Oh, Ok.

Yo CCCP is a ******* moron idiot.

My two college scientist friends say that climate change is real.

You are a fat jewish piece of ****, why dont you just run back to boston with your other patriots fans and go back to sucking tom bradys dick
Now this is a fantastic use of a college education.

Well thought out and nicely done!
2/24/2019 1:31 PM
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here's yer gun and yer knife pretty feminist!

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2/24/2019 1:31 PM
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