over-reach in recruiting and just absolutely eat ****?

Not complaining, but it just happened to me. It's almost worse when your team is good because you are able to hang on too long and then get stuck without reasonable fall back options. When I first took over Pacific and they were horrible, I would try for a guy, get squashed immediately, and move to a more appropriate target.

This season I was on two really good guys and even had a couple back-ups ready in case it fell apart, but I stayed in the lead on the primary guys until the last day and by the time I was out on them, the sims had eaten my back-up plans.

Yeah, I did that last season at Palm Beach Atlantic in Naismith. I signed some good bigs but got too hung up on a couple of guards and lost out on both (my backups were long gone by then.) Now, I will have six openings and almost no returning guard talent, leaving me in a do-or-die recruiting situation...which I never should have been in. PBAC is a fastball right down the middle and I did a big swing and miss.

Filed under: Times when recruiting is like finding a prom date.

A sign of a good coach is being disciplined enough to be able to back out when you're in way over your head with a recruit. You have to evaluate
after each cycle and of course come in with a good game plan before recruiting. Initially, it may look like a great strategy to target one player on the first cycle, but depending on which teams jump on that player, you have to be able to adjust to how the other teams are recruiting as well.

Posted by thewizard17 on 2/26/2019 3:52:00 PM (view original):
A sign of a good coach is being disciplined enough to be able to back out when you're in way over your head with a recruit. You have to evaluate
after each cycle and of course come in with a good game plan before recruiting. Initially, it may look like a great strategy to target one player on the first cycle, but depending on which teams jump on that player, you have to be able to adjust to how the other teams are recruiting as well.

The hard part is knowing when you're going to get ******. Sometimes a D1 human school will show up as very low in case they don't hit on their primary target. You can try to scour the top 100 and see if they are battling and how it's going, but you're never sure. Sometimes they hit on their primary target and never move off very low on the guy you're going after. But sometimes they miss and suddenly there's nothing you can do to hold on to the guy you've been chasing.

And again, I'm not complaining, I know what I'm getting into when I'm chasing good D1 recruits. But it's really the only way to win consistently at the D3 level.

In D-3 I always start with a list of guys I know I can sign. Then I swing for the fences.

Early in the early session I back away quickly when a Sim D1 or a D2 team engages. Even if I'm winning the battle or believe I could potentially win the battle. Near the end of RS1 if I've invested substantial AP I'll spend some money to try to fend off a new suitor. At the same time I'll put some AP to my backups so I'm not flailing wildly in RS2. I at least want to get my backups to a point where I can offer a scholarship. But if the new suitor gets off the Very Low, I'll go to a drop back option.

I try to avoid spending any money in RS1 because its been wasted if a D1 program suddenly shows up.

In session 2, for my competitive recruits I throw it all early to make the steal as difficult as possible.

Posted by thewizard17 on 2/26/2019 3:52:00 PM (view original):
A sign of a good coach is being disciplined enough to be able to back out when you're in way over your head with a recruit. You have to evaluate
after each cycle and of course come in with a good game plan before recruiting. Initially, it may look like a great strategy to target one player on the first cycle, but depending on which teams jump on that player, you have to be able to adjust to how the other teams are recruiting as well.

I got lazy. In DI, you can afford to miss a cycle during RS2. In DIII, you have to be on it.

yup

Posted by bad_luck on 2/26/2019 5:00:00 PM (view original):

Posted by thewizard17 on 2/26/2019 3:52:00 PM (view original):
A sign of a good coach is being disciplined enough to be able to back out when you're in way over your head with a recruit. You have to evaluate
after each cycle and of course come in with a good game plan before recruiting. Initially, it may look like a great strategy to target one player on the first cycle, but depending on which teams jump on that player, you have to be able to adjust to how the other teams are recruiting as well.

The hard part is knowing when you're going to get ******. Sometimes a D1 human school will show up as very low in case they don't hit on their primary target. You can try to scour the top 100 and see if they are battling and how it's going, but you're never sure. Sometimes they hit on their primary target and never move off very low on the guy you're going after. But sometimes they miss and suddenly there's nothing you can do to hold on to the guy you've been chasing.

And again, I'm not complaining, I know what I'm getting into when I'm chasing good D1 recruits. But it's really the only way to win consistently at the D3 level.

I agree with you 100% and think it needs to be changed. D-1 recruits D-1, D-2 recruits in D-2, D-3 recruits in D-3. The tedious process of recruiting in D-3 and getting jumped by higher division, probably out weighs any unintended consequences as far as keeping the divisions separate, when it comes to user retention.

Posted by gomiami1972 on 2/26/2019 5:29:00 PM (view original):

Posted by thewizard17 on 2/26/2019 3:52:00 PM (view original):
A sign of a good coach is being disciplined enough to be able to back out when you're in way over your head with a recruit. You have to evaluate
after each cycle and of course come in with a good game plan before recruiting. Initially, it may look like a great strategy to target one player on the first cycle, but depending on which teams jump on that player, you have to be able to adjust to how the other teams are recruiting as well.

I got lazy. In DI, you can afford to miss a cycle during RS2. In DIII, you have to be on it.

RS2? 2nd period recruiting?

When I had Kansas, I felt I couldn't miss any cycles, because I had to stay on top of what the other teams were doing.

Posted by thewizard17 on 2/27/2019 4:46:00 PM (view original):

Posted by gomiami1972 on 2/26/2019 5:29:00 PM (view original):

Posted by thewizard17 on 2/26/2019 3:52:00 PM (view original):
A sign of a good coach is being disciplined enough to be able to back out when you're in way over your head with a recruit. You have to evaluate
after each cycle and of course come in with a good game plan before recruiting. Initially, it may look like a great strategy to target one player on the first cycle, but depending on which teams jump on that player, you have to be able to adjust to how the other teams are recruiting as well.

I got lazy. In DI, you can afford to miss a cycle during RS2. In DIII, you have to be on it.

RS2? 2nd period recruiting?

When I had Kansas, I felt I couldn't miss any cycles, because I had to stay on top of what the other teams were doing.

Yeah...that's what I call it Recruiting Session 2.

If I have maxed out HV/CV/promises/APs and am simply waiting for a late signer to pick a school, I stop checking in. I will either win the recruit or take the opening for next season. My recruiting strategy (for DI) heavily favors early or end of period 1 types anyway.

All the time. In fact talk to me again next week and it's likely to have happened again. I decided to go ALL in on a guy whose preferences lined up well early (80 points, 20 visits, starter, etc..) and the worst part is just watching the D2 teams slowly creeping up and then a D1 appears. At this point there is a whole slew of D1 and D2 on the list with me being the only little ole D3 school. Still holding strong at moderate for the time being but I know I'm being a little ridiculous sticking in on this guy. I do have the rest of my class lined up decently so at least that's going for me.

yup happens even when I am not reaching. Theres always the typical D1 coach who decides to sign a below average Late signer with a couple cycles remaining during RS2.

Posted by zagsrulez on 2/28/2019 12:12:00 PM (view original):
yup happens even when I am not reaching. Theres always the typical D1 coach who decides to sign a below average Late signer with a couple cycles remaining during RS2.

I figure this will be a good time to leave City College as more of a firing of myself. I couldn't get a player who registered as a rebuilding player in my terms of the book. I will be looking at Connecticut College in Phelan when this season ends.