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Posted by cccp1014 on 3/1/2019 4:10:00 PM (view original):
Posted by tangplay on 3/1/2019 4:02:00 PM (view original):
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Posted by cccp1014 on 3/1/2019 3:23:00 PM (view original):
That again was hyperbole. They aren't "traitors" per se but I just don't understand their blind loyalty as the party has clearly shifted to a pro Muslim, anti Jew vision. You'd see it too if you would just open your eyes.
And that's why you have repeatedly called wylie and I traitors.
It is wylie and me. And wylie knows I was just kidding and you’re not a real Jew so you cannot be a traitor. Plus Jews are smart so you’re definitely not a Jew.
You called me a traitor before.
To mock you. It worked.
Backtrack.
3/1/2019 4:14 PM
Posted by gomiami1972 on 3/1/2019 2:42:00 PM (view original):
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Posted by strikeout26 on 3/1/2019 12:29:00 PM (view original):
On a side note, its official AOC is further alienating the majority of her party. She is making a list of moderate democrats so that they can be primaried and voted out. She wants the party to be as far left as possible. I guess she doesn't realize that the majority of the party are people more like Wylie than like B_L.
Well, that would be something IF she successfully follows through with it (assuming not every Dem will heed the warning.) It's quite a potential power play. If it works, she is, in effect, Speaker of the House with Pelosi being a puppet.

Since Pelosi is a very canny politician, I'm guessing it won't work. Either she will be ignored and back down or she will follow through with the threat and watch most of the moderates win their primaries.
This is what happens when you only get your news from Fox etc.

What actually happened in that meeting:

In a closed-door session, a frustrated Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) lashed out at about two dozen moderates and pressured them to get on board. “We are either a team or we’re not, and we have to make that decision,” Pelosi said, according to two people present but not authorized to discuss the remarks publicly.

It is interesting how afraid the right is of AOC.
Why are you including me in this rebuttal?

I made a hypothetical based on what strikeout posted. If what strikeout posted is not factual, nail him to the wall but quote his comment only if you want to talk about "fear" among the political "right."



Sorry, I was trying to address both strikeout bringing up AOC's list story and your thought that it would neuter Pelosi at the same time.

Seems like Pelosi is leading the strategy to keep moderate Dems in line. Which really isn't a new thing, it's been tradition for decades on both sides for party leadership to essentially force center-leaning members to stay in line on procedural votes, which this was.
3/1/2019 4:19 PM
Posted by cccp1014 on 3/1/2019 2:39:00 PM (view original):
Bob, with all due respect and I mean with all due respect. I think bad luck is dumb.

much the same way he thinks anyone who voted for Trump is an idiot.
3/1/2019 4:28 PM
Who wins? The Moderates or the Extremists? Cannot wait to see.
3/1/2019 4:29 PM
Posted by wylie715 on 3/1/2019 4:28:00 PM (view original):
Posted by cccp1014 on 3/1/2019 2:39:00 PM (view original):
Bob, with all due respect and I mean with all due respect. I think bad luck is dumb.

much the same way he thinks anyone who voted for Trump is an idiot.
He thinks 63mil are dumb. I just think he is.
3/1/2019 4:29 PM
Posted by tangplay on 3/1/2019 4:14:00 PM (view original):
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Posted by cccp1014 on 3/1/2019 3:23:00 PM (view original):
That again was hyperbole. They aren't "traitors" per se but I just don't understand their blind loyalty as the party has clearly shifted to a pro Muslim, anti Jew vision. You'd see it too if you would just open your eyes.
And that's why you have repeatedly called wylie and I traitors.
It is wylie and me. And wylie knows I was just kidding and you’re not a real Jew so you cannot be a traitor. Plus Jews are smart so you’re definitely not a Jew.
You called me a traitor before.
To mock you. It worked.
Backtrack.
LOL. It worked. You’re still butthurt.
3/1/2019 4:30 PM
Posted by cccp1014 on 3/1/2019 3:07:00 PM (view original):
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Posted by cccp1014 on 3/1/2019 2:49:00 PM (view original):
I said that? LOL find that post. You lying again, tang. Just say no to drugs.

Oh and Bill Gates also agrees she is dumb.

http://fortune.com/2019/02/12/bill-gates-alexandria-ocasio-cortez-tax-plan/

You definitely did, I will search for it when I have time. I don't do drugs.

Btw, you ALSO consistently call Jews who voted democrat 'traitors'.
That part is true. The other part you made up. Liar.
You mentioned someone being a never Trumper so they aren't a real conservative.

Either way, you are a massive hypocrite.
NEVER said that either. You're confusing me with someone else. Either find the real post or stop your nonsense.

LMAO.

Look, Tlaib and Omar are open antisemites. Your party elected them and you support them. The rest is noise.
yeah, and we all know that there isn't one antisemite in the Republican party. What makes you think tangplay or I support Omar or Tlaib? Just because they are democrats and we are too? Does that mean you support every single Republican? I doubt it. I din't vote for either of them, don't know anything about that and don't support them.
3/1/2019 4:32 PM
Posted by cccp1014 on 3/1/2019 4:29:00 PM (view original):
Posted by wylie715 on 3/1/2019 4:28:00 PM (view original):
Posted by cccp1014 on 3/1/2019 2:39:00 PM (view original):
Bob, with all due respect and I mean with all due respect. I think bad luck is dumb.

much the same way he thinks anyone who voted for Trump is an idiot.
He thinks 63mil are dumb. I just think he is.
no, you think tangplay is , you think AOC is, you think BL is, you think rsp77 is, you think rcbracco is. Isn't it odd that they all disagree with your point of view. You've also called me an idiot when I disagreed with you.
3/1/2019 4:36 PM
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Posted by strikeout26 on 3/1/2019 12:29:00 PM (view original):
On a side note, its official AOC is further alienating the majority of her party. She is making a list of moderate democrats so that they can be primaried and voted out. She wants the party to be as far left as possible. I guess she doesn't realize that the majority of the party are people more like Wylie than like B_L.
Well, that would be something IF she successfully follows through with it (assuming not every Dem will heed the warning.) It's quite a potential power play. If it works, she is, in effect, Speaker of the House with Pelosi being a puppet.

Since Pelosi is a very canny politician, I'm guessing it won't work. Either she will be ignored and back down or she will follow through with the threat and watch most of the moderates win their primaries.
This is what happens when you only get your news from Fox etc.

What actually happened in that meeting:

In a closed-door session, a frustrated Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) lashed out at about two dozen moderates and pressured them to get on board. “We are either a team or we’re not, and we have to make that decision,” Pelosi said, according to two people present but not authorized to discuss the remarks publicly.

It is interesting how afraid the right is of AOC.
Why are you including me in this rebuttal?

I made a hypothetical based on what strikeout posted. If what strikeout posted is not factual, nail him to the wall but quote his comment only if you want to talk about "fear" among the political "right."



Sorry, I was trying to address both strikeout bringing up AOC's list story and your thought that it would neuter Pelosi at the same time.

Seems like Pelosi is leading the strategy to keep moderate Dems in line. Which really isn't a new thing, it's been tradition for decades on both sides for party leadership to essentially force center-leaning members to stay in line on procedural votes, which this was.
The way it was presented, it would have neutered her. Of course, if she's the one orchestrating the whole deal, then it is just another piece of fake news. I agree that it is essentially the job of the Speaker to keep all the horses in the corral.

lol, didn't mean to get pissy.
3/1/2019 4:36 PM
Posted by wylie715 on 3/1/2019 4:36:00 PM (view original):
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Posted by cccp1014 on 3/1/2019 2:39:00 PM (view original):
Bob, with all due respect and I mean with all due respect. I think bad luck is dumb.

much the same way he thinks anyone who voted for Trump is an idiot.
He thinks 63mil are dumb. I just think he is.
no, you think tangplay is , you think AOC is, you think BL is, you think rsp77 is, you think rcbracco is. Isn't it odd that they all disagree with your point of view. You've also called me an idiot when I disagreed with you.
#1) Tang = yes
#2) AOC = based on what I have seen and heard. Yes.
#3) rsp = never called him dumb. I don't think he is a good guy though.
#4) braccpo = see rsp

3/1/2019 4:39 PM
Posted by strikeout26 on 3/1/2019 1:55:00 PM (view original):
Also, it's pretty sad that the party has went so far left that they don't believe in the ability to think for oneself. If you don't do exactly as Pelosi or AOC says, you aren't "part of the team." That's pathetic.

Its the same as with their identity politics game. If you don't vote democrat, you're not a real "black" or "Hispanic" or you're a "traitor to women." It's pathetic and bigoted.
Post of the Day.
3/1/2019 4:40 PM
Posted by cccp1014 on 3/1/2019 3:57:00 PM (view original):
Posted by tangplay on 3/1/2019 3:28:00 PM (view original):
Posted by cccp1014 on 3/1/2019 3:23:00 PM (view original):
That again was hyperbole. They aren't "traitors" per se but I just don't understand their blind loyalty as the party has clearly shifted to a pro Muslim, anti Jew vision. You'd see it too if you would just open your eyes.
And that's why you have repeatedly called wylie and I traitors.
It is wylie and me. And wylie knows I was just kidding and you’re not a real Jew so you cannot be a traitor. Plus Jews are smart so you’re definitely not a Jew.
I don't think you were kidding when you first said it. Not sure you're really kidding now. I think you just realize it was a stupid thing to say so you backed off.
3/1/2019 4:46 PM
It was hyperbole. Plus you got really upset. I figured I crossed the line.
3/1/2019 4:54 PM
I didn't get really upset. It was just a very stupid comment. Just as stupid as BL's "anyone who voted for trump is an idiot"
3/1/2019 6:04 PM
Posted by laramiebob on 3/1/2019 2:22:00 PM (view original):
That's crazy talk Coach. You have NO F'n idea whether she's bright or a moron. ALL you know is what you've had "reported" to you.
When you have met her personally and had a chance to actually gauge her mind BASED on reasonable interaction, THEN you'll be able to opine on this congressperson's relative level of intelligence. Until then you're just revealing yourself to be extremely biased on AOC.
With all due respect, this is completely wrong. We judge people's intelligence all the time that we have never spoke with. I'm pretty sure you have made plenty of comments regarding Trump's intelligence. You have probably never met the guy. You have the right to use the information available to you to form that opinion.It is part of every election. We vote for those who agree with us ideologically, but we also gauge intelligence. This is also part of the hiring process. When I am looking at applications, I am using the data available to gauge competence.

As far as the "reported" part, she does a televised interview at least once a week. I don't need a reporter to tell me how to think. I can form my own opinions.
3/1/2019 6:05 PM
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