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Posted by tangplay on 3/3/2019 12:19:00 PM (view original):
Free child care sounds like a good idea.

It sounds like a great idea until you realize that it's not free. I guess this is yet another thing where you want to steal from the financially successful to pay for it.

How much would it cost?

Child care is extremely valuable for people in poverty, I would fully support this policy.

"tAxAtIoN iS sTeAlInG"

Please don't use your dumbass font. The only solution you ever have to anything is to tax the rich.

Yes. It is a good solution.

Or do you want poor people to pay for child care?

Remember, they are POOR.

Posted by strikeout26 on 3/3/2019 1:28:00 PM (view original):
Here's the thing, Tang. This is what the left seems to miss. The only reason people have jobs is because of the rich. The government produces nothing. We shouldn't punish people for taking risks and being successful. Guess what, if your newspaper doesn't turn a profit, you still get paid. Guess who doesn't get paid, the investors of your newspaper. They carry all of the risk. We shouldn't punish them when they provide a service that does happen to turn a profit.

Here's the other thing the left misses, Bill Gates and the Walton family has done far more for humanity than someone like Mother Teresa. Bill Gates and Sam Walton have provided an income for millions of people. They are already doing their part.

Socialism is by far the most immoral economic system.

The only reason people have jobs is because of the rich.

Someone's forgetting about federal workers.

We shouldn't punish people for taking risks and being successful

It's not a punishment.

Guess who doesn't get paid, the investors of your newspaper. They carry all of the risk.

They choose to make the investment. Poor people don't choose to be born into poverty.

Here's the other thing the left misses, Bill Gates and the Walton family has done far more for humanity than someone like Mother Teresa.

I am very happy for him. If every rich person was more like Bill Gates, the world would be a better place. Unfortunately, Bill Gates can't help every person. Bill Gate's job isn't to help the poor get childcare, it is to turn a profit. Private Prisons aren't looking to help people rehabilitate, they are looking to turn a profit. That's the problem with using other people to do the government's job.

Socialism is by far the most immoral economic system.

Many people believe that the Bible advocates for socialism.

It literally says that God's economic system involves taking from the rich and giving to the poor once every 50 years.

Arguing that Bill Gates should solve for every poor person in America is far more naive than saying that the government should provide child care.

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Posted by dino27 on 3/2/2019 5:01:00 PM (view original):
im sick of the putrid anti american record on gun control issues by the republican congress...

This is the main one I have an issue with. Gun control, in itself, is anti-American. Our constitution gives us the right for very, very good reasons.

Gun control isn’t anti-American or unconstitutional.

Um, it's both. Our founders put it in place as a resource to fight tyranny against the GOVERNMENT. The GOVERNMENT has no right to take that resource away.

To be clear, keeping guns out of hands of criminals and those with mental illness is not what I'm referring to. Banning guns is what I'm referring to.

Well, gun control isn’t banning all guns. So problem solved.

Banning any guns is unconstitutional. Plus, the guns that are targeted by the left are used for a very small percentage of all gun crimes. If the left really cared about preventing gun crimes, their focus would be on hand guns. But preventing gun crimes is not their goal.

Reasonable restrictions on what guns you can own are perfectly constitutional. You still have the right to bear arms even if you can’t own a rocket launcher and a fully auto .50 cal.

Posted by tangplay on 3/3/2019 1:45:00 PM (view original):

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Posted by dino27 on 3/2/2019 5:01:00 PM (view original):
im sick of the putrid anti american record on gun control issues by the republican congress...

This is the main one I have an issue with. Gun control, in itself, is anti-American. Our constitution gives us the right for very, very good reasons.

Gun control isn’t anti-American or unconstitutional.

Um, it's both. Our founders put it in place as a resource to fight tyranny against the GOVERNMENT. The GOVERNMENT has no right to take that resource away.

To be clear, keeping guns out of hands of criminals and those with mental illness is not what I'm referring to. Banning guns is what I'm referring to.

Well, gun control isn’t banning all guns. So problem solved.

Banning any guns is unconstitutional. Plus, the guns that are targeted by the left are used for a very small percentage of all gun crimes. If the left really cared about preventing gun crimes, their focus would be on hand guns. But preventing gun crimes is not their goal.

So mental health and background checks, and gun safety tests don't prevent gun crimes?

We aren't saying to ban guns.

Yes, I agree with your first lines.

You might not saying to ban guns, but plenty in your party have called for that on numerous occasions. Remember the whole "assault weapon" ban. "Assault weapons" account for a very, very small percentage of gun crimes. Most gun violence is committed with handguns.

Yeah, I agree with you on that second part. You aren't debating with 'my party'. You are debating with me.

What would stop gun violence?

Nothing will stop gun violence. You can take action to limit it by measures that we agree upon. You've already named them.

Posted by tangplay on 3/3/2019 1:46:00 PM (view original):

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Posted by tangplay on 3/3/2019 12:19:00 PM (view original):
Free child care sounds like a good idea.

It sounds like a great idea until you realize that it's not free. I guess this is yet another thing where you want to steal from the financially successful to pay for it.

How much would it cost?

Child care is extremely valuable for people in poverty, I would fully support this policy.

"tAxAtIoN iS sTeAlInG"

Please don't use your dumbass font. The only solution you ever have to anything is to tax the rich.

Yes. It is a good solution.

It's a terrible and immoral solution.

Posted by bad_luck on 3/3/2019 2:04:00 PM (view original):

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Posted by dino27 on 3/2/2019 5:01:00 PM (view original):
im sick of the putrid anti american record on gun control issues by the republican congress...

This is the main one I have an issue with. Gun control, in itself, is anti-American. Our constitution gives us the right for very, very good reasons.

Gun control isn’t anti-American or unconstitutional.

Um, it's both. Our founders put it in place as a resource to fight tyranny against the GOVERNMENT. The GOVERNMENT has no right to take that resource away.

To be clear, keeping guns out of hands of criminals and those with mental illness is not what I'm referring to. Banning guns is what I'm referring to.

Well, gun control isn’t banning all guns. So problem solved.

Banning any guns is unconstitutional. Plus, the guns that are targeted by the left are used for a very small percentage of all gun crimes. If the left really cared about preventing gun crimes, their focus would be on hand guns. But preventing gun crimes is not their goal.

Reasonable restrictions on what guns you can own are perfectly constitutional. You still have the right to bear arms even if you can’t own a rocket launcher and a fully auto .50 cal.

my reading of the 2nd amendment you can

reasonable regulation would be, though, you keep it at the armory

what is the armory? its like a library only it has guns

not a lending library, a storage library

maybe next to a local training area where gun owners could come practice

with a librarian. i mean an armorer

you buy the ammo you can maybe check out someone's rocket launcher and send one down range

Posted by bad_luck on 3/2/2019 3:45:00 PM (view original):
Or as stupid as saying all politicians are only out for themselves?

what? you think politicians are altruistic? There's more evidence to support my statement than yours.

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Posted by bad_luck on 3/2/2019 3:45:00 PM (view original):
Or as stupid as saying all politicians are only out for themselves?

what? you think politicians are altruistic? There's more evidence to support my statement than yours.

There’s equally as much evidence that all trump voters are idiots as there is all politicians are only out for themselves:

anecdotal examples

Posted by tangplay on 3/3/2019 1:52:00 PM (view original):

Posted by strikeout26 on 3/3/2019 1:28:00 PM (view original):
Here's the thing, Tang. This is what the left seems to miss. The only reason people have jobs is because of the rich. The government produces nothing. We shouldn't punish people for taking risks and being successful. Guess what, if your newspaper doesn't turn a profit, you still get paid. Guess who doesn't get paid, the investors of your newspaper. They carry all of the risk. We shouldn't punish them when they provide a service that does happen to turn a profit.

Here's the other thing the left misses, Bill Gates and the Walton family has done far more for humanity than someone like Mother Teresa. Bill Gates and Sam Walton have provided an income for millions of people. They are already doing their part.

Socialism is by far the most immoral economic system.

The only reason people have jobs is because of the rich.

Someone's forgetting about federal workers.

We shouldn't punish people for taking risks and being successful

It's not a punishment.

Guess who doesn't get paid, the investors of your newspaper. They carry all of the risk.

They choose to make the investment. Poor people don't choose to be born into poverty.

Here's the other thing the left misses, Bill Gates and the Walton family has done far more for humanity than someone like Mother Teresa.

I am very happy for him. If every rich person was more like Bill Gates, the world would be a better place. Unfortunately, Bill Gates can't help every person. Bill Gate's job isn't to help the poor get childcare, it is to turn a profit. Private Prisons aren't looking to help people rehabilitate, they are looking to turn a profit. That's the problem with using other people to do the government's job.

Socialism is by far the most immoral economic system.

Many people believe that the Bible advocates for socialism.

It literally says that God's economic system involves taking from the rich and giving to the poor once every 50 years.

I'm not forgetting about federal workers. Where do you think the federal government gets their money from to pay the federal workers? I'll answer for you. The rich. The government doesn't produce anything. Everything they have, they have taken from those that do produce. The top 1% pays more in income than the bottom 90% combined. This why the whole "fair share" argument is complete bullshit. The rich already fund our whole country in both the private sector and government. And yet, all you hear is that we should take more and more.

Every rich person is like Bill Gates. They didn't get rich by putting their money under mattresses. They invest it, which creates jobs.

Posted by all3 on 3/2/2019 8:01:00 PM (view original):
Come on man, just pretend you're a Liberal. Using their playbook, you're allowed to say whatever you want about everyone else, with ZERO back-up at all, without it being hateful.

you mean like the way you say California is crazy because you find BL's opinions to be crazy and he is a Californian??

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Posted by tangplay on 3/3/2019 12:19:00 PM (view original):
Free child care sounds like a good idea.

It sounds like a great idea until you realize that it's not free. I guess this is yet another thing where you want to steal from the financially successful to pay for it.

How much would it cost?

Child care is extremely valuable for people in poverty, I would fully support this policy.

"tAxAtIoN iS sTeAlInG"

Please don't use your dumbass font. The only solution you ever have to anything is to tax the rich.

Yes. It is a good solution.

It's a terrible and immoral solution.

There’s nothing immoral about taxes.

Posted by strikeout26 on 3/3/2019 2:26:00 PM (view original):

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Posted by strikeout26 on 3/3/2019 12:37:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 3/3/2019 12:19:00 PM (view original):
Free child care sounds like a good idea.

It sounds like a great idea until you realize that it's not free. I guess this is yet another thing where you want to steal from the financially successful to pay for it.

How much would it cost?

Child care is extremely valuable for people in poverty, I would fully support this policy.

"tAxAtIoN iS sTeAlInG"

Please don't use your dumbass font. The only solution you ever have to anything is to tax the rich.

Yes. It is a good solution.

It's a terrible and immoral solution.

its the power the little man has in a democracy

the power to steal from the rich if he can get the votes

it is no more immoral than stepping on a bug or holding a bake sale

Posted by tangplay on 3/3/2019 1:53:00 PM (view original):
Arguing that Bill Gates should solve for every poor person in America is far more naive than saying that the government should provide child care.

You completely miss the point. I am not saying that Bill Gates is a humanitarian because he gives to charity. He does, but that is not what I am talking about. Bill Gates is a humanitarian because he creates millions of jobs for people. That is how you help the poor. Create an economic environment that promotes hiring. Our current system definitely does not do that. Let me ask you a question. Do you know how much you cost your employer?