Posted by strikeout26 on 3/3/2019 5:34:00 PM (view original):
Tang, I get the feeling that you think being prosperous is a club that is not open to new members.

Did know that 70% of the people in our country will spend time in the top 20% of earners before the age of 60?

Did you know that if you are in the bottom 20% of wage earners now, that there is an 88% chance that you will not be in the bottom 20% within 10 years?

Did you know that wealth is fluid and dynamic?

Did you know that Ford paid there employees more per hour prior to the minimum wage than they do today?

I'm going to guess that you didn't know any of these things because you have been fed a bunch of lies.

This is why I advocate for capitalism. B_L calls it extreme. I'm guessing he hasn't seen what the democrats are campaigning on. They want less capitalism and more socialism.

You need to source those claims.

There are a ton of sources for this data, but here is a quick source for some it. Feel free to fact check if you don't trust it.

https://www.aei.org/publication/evidence-shows-affluence-fluid-widespread-contrary-rigid-class-structure-narrative/print/

So, no my logic is not dumbfounding. It's based on facts. The lefts views are based on emotions.

Posted by strikeout26 on 3/3/2019 5:34:00 PM (view original):
Tang, I get the feeling that you think being prosperous is a club that is not open to new members.

Did know that 70% of the people in our country will spend time in the top 20% of earners before the age of 60?

Did you know that if you are in the bottom 20% of wage earners now, that there is an 88% chance that you will not be in the bottom 20% within 10 years?

Did you know that wealth is fluid and dynamic?

Did you know that Ford paid there employees more per hour prior to the minimum wage than they do today?

I'm going to guess that you didn't know any of these things because you have been fed a bunch of lies.

This is why I advocate for capitalism. B_L calls it extreme. I'm guessing he hasn't seen what the democrats are campaigning on. They want less capitalism and more socialism.

I’m not calling capitalism extreme. As I said before, no one is calling for the end of capitalism.

I’m calling you extreme. Your positions that all taxation is immoral, all abortion is murder, and any restriction on weapon legality is unconstitutional are all significantly more extreme than the vast majority of the population. You sit far to the right of almost all conservatives.

You actually know very little about my political ideology as a whole. But I'm not sure you are a good one to call anyone extreme when you are about as far left as anyone can go.

oh please

thow strikes, get rich

thats yer political ideology as a whole

Haha. He's hit it on the head. The throwing strikes part comes first for sure. I HATE WALKS!

no free rides by you

want to take your money got to hit it hard and hustle

got to take it

got to earn it

Posted by strikeout26 on 3/3/2019 5:47:00 PM (view original):
You actually know very little about my political ideology as a whole. But I'm not sure you are a good one to call anyone extreme when you are about as far left as anyone can go.

Maybe I don’t, but I do know what you’ve represented here. And it’s extreme.

Posted by strikeout26 on 3/3/2019 5:34:00 PM (view original):
Tang, I get the feeling that you think being prosperous is a club that is not open to new members.

Did know that 70% of the people in our country will spend time in the top 20% of earners before the age of 60?

Did you know that if you are in the bottom 20% of wage earners now, that there is an 88% chance that you will not be in the bottom 20% within 10 years?

Did you know that wealth is fluid and dynamic?

Did you know that Ford paid there employees more per hour prior to the minimum wage than they do today?

I'm going to guess that you didn't know any of these things because you have been fed a bunch of lies.

This is why I advocate for capitalism. B_L calls it extreme. I'm guessing he hasn't seen what the democrats are campaigning on. They want less capitalism and more socialism.

Did know that 70% of the people in our country will spend time in the top 20% of earners before the age of 60?

That makes sense considering the poverty rate is 12%. The top 20% make ~ 100k, not bad. The study that you cited, at least from the 2 min skim that I looked at, doesn't really talk about being in poverty to being out of poverty. It's way easier to go from well off to really well off than it is to go from not well off to well off.

If you are talking about the studies that say that you can go in and out of poverty, that makes sense. It still proves my point that it is hard to permanently break out of poverty.


Here's some info that you may or may not know.

• Adult achievement is related to childhood poverty and the length of time they live in poverty. Children who
  are poor are less likely to achieve important adult milestones, such as graduating from high school and
  enrolling in and completing college, than children who are never poor. For example, although more than
  9 in 10 never-poor children (92.7 percent) complete high school, only 3 in 4 ever-poor children (77.9
  percent) do so (table 1).
• Persistently poor children are also less likely (by 37 percent) to be consistently employed as young
  adults than their ever-poor, nonpersistently poor counterparts. This finding is consistent with the lower
  educational achievement of the persistently poor and the fact that unemployment rates have
  historically been higher among lower-educated groups (Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis 2014)

https://www.urban.org/sites/default/files/publication/65766/2000369-Child-Poverty-and-Adult-Success.pdf

We've been trying your way for years strikeout. Income inequality is getting worse. We need to help those in need.

And you are STILL not going to get me to feel sorry for rich people. Sorry. I guarantee you that if you spent as much time working with people in poverty as my family has, you would have a different outlook.

I will give you another story that I have said before. At the district where I grew up, there are about 6 elementary schools, three of which are in richer parts of town. By the time my class reached high school, everyone on the basketball team went to one of those three rich schools, and 90% of higher-level learning students went to those schools. There were only two or three kids (myself being one of them) who went to one of the two really bad schools that did honor level classes.

Posted by tangplay on 3/3/2019 6:31:00 PM (view original):
We've been trying your way for years strikeout. Income inequality is getting worse. We need to help those in need.

You have this backwards. We actually have not tried my way in a really long time. Even B_L alluded to that. We have actually tried your way for a really long time. Instead of the left saying, "hey maybe my work doesn't work, lets see if the free market can do a good job". They say "let's take our program that doesn't work and give it steroids."

Posted by tangplay on 3/3/2019 6:30:00 PM (view original):

Posted by strikeout26 on 3/3/2019 5:34:00 PM (view original):
Tang, I get the feeling that you think being prosperous is a club that is not open to new members.

Did know that 70% of the people in our country will spend time in the top 20% of earners before the age of 60?

Did you know that if you are in the bottom 20% of wage earners now, that there is an 88% chance that you will not be in the bottom 20% within 10 years?

Did you know that wealth is fluid and dynamic?

Did you know that Ford paid there employees more per hour prior to the minimum wage than they do today?

I'm going to guess that you didn't know any of these things because you have been fed a bunch of lies.

This is why I advocate for capitalism. B_L calls it extreme. I'm guessing he hasn't seen what the democrats are campaigning on. They want less capitalism and more socialism.

Did know that 70% of the people in our country will spend time in the top 20% of earners before the age of 60?

That makes sense considering the poverty rate is 12%. The top 20% make ~ 100k, not bad. The study that you cited, at least from the 2 min skim that I looked at, doesn't really talk about being in poverty to being out of poverty. It's way easier to go from well off to really well off than it is to go from not well off to well off.

If you are talking about the studies that say that you can go in and out of poverty, that makes sense. It still proves my point that it is hard to permanently break out of poverty.


Here's some info that you may or may not know.

• Adult achievement is related to childhood poverty and the length of time they live in poverty. Children who
  are poor are less likely to achieve important adult milestones, such as graduating from high school and
  enrolling in and completing college, than children who are never poor. For example, although more than
  9 in 10 never-poor children (92.7 percent) complete high school, only 3 in 4 ever-poor children (77.9
  percent) do so (table 1).
• Persistently poor children are also less likely (by 37 percent) to be consistently employed as young
  adults than their ever-poor, nonpersistently poor counterparts. This finding is consistent with the lower
  educational achievement of the persistently poor and the fact that unemployment rates have
  historically been higher among lower-educated groups (Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis 2014)

https://www.urban.org/sites/default/files/publication/65766/2000369-Child-Poverty-and-Adult-Success.pdf

If you are in the bottom 20% now, you have an 88% chance of not being in the bottom 10% in ten years. The facts don't lie. Wealth is fluid. People talk about the top earners and bottom earners as if they were set groups when the evidence says otherwise. I have been in the top 2%. I am not currently in the top 2%. The groups are constantly changing.