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3/7/2019 9:53 AM

3/7/2019 9:55 AM
3/7/2019 10:17 AM
Posted by cccp1014 on 3/7/2019 9:52:00 AM (view original):
Posted by tangplay on 3/7/2019 9:46:00 AM (view original):
Is losing a coin toss choking?
Getting to the coin toss is choking
Sorry that we came back from.a 14-0 deficit.
3/7/2019 10:20 AM
Posted by tangplay on 3/7/2019 10:21:00 AM (view original):
Posted by cccp1014 on 3/7/2019 9:52:00 AM (view original):
Posted by tangplay on 3/7/2019 9:46:00 AM (view original):
Is losing a coin toss choking?
Getting to the coin toss is choking
Sorry that we came back from.a 14-0 deficit.
The game didn't start out 14-0. You allowed that to happen. And it could have been a lot worse if not for that Int. You were home and big faves and lost and also lost in NE. Choke is on you...
3/7/2019 10:23 AM
Posted by cccp1014 on 3/6/2019 3:18:00 PM (view original):
A fact is a statement that can be proven true or false. An opinion is an expression of a person's feelings that cannot be proven.
An opinion can still be incorrect. By definition it's generally not based on facts, but that doesn't mean that it couldn't be proven correct or incorrect by factual evidence. For example, relevant to this discussion, numerous parents are of the opinion that vaccinating their children puts the children's health at risk. But plenty of factual evidence demonstrates that this opinion is incorrect. It's their opinion. It's also verifiably incorrect.

I came back to this because I think your expressed opinion here is one of the root causes of the current dysfunctional state of political discourse in this country. There seems to be a widespread perception that opinions cannot be incorrect, and that everyone's opinion is valid and important. That leads people to disregard things like scientific studies because they believe their own opinions on issues are inherently valid. We see this in this vaccine debate, and we certainly see it in virtually any climate change discussion. Everybody wants to claim that climate change either A) doesn't exist, or at least can't be traced to anthropogenic sources, or B) is going to put 30% of the world's population underwater by 2070. Neither of these is a realistic position based on the preponderance of scientific modeling. By looking at outlier results of climate modeling studies (IE 1st and 99th percentile outcomes from a reported range) and convincing themselves that their opinions on climate change must be valid, people at these wild extremes find no common ground and just yell at each other. We're virtually never having the really important discussion, which should be how do we balance the long-term need to protect our planet with the short-term need to sustain economic well-being.

If more people accepted that their opinions might not be valid, certainly not as valid as those of experts in a relevant field, we could have much more productive political conversations and maybe find mutually acceptable solutions.
3/7/2019 11:44 AM
If there is a scientific study then the opinion becomes a fact and may be wrong. If my opinion is that Derek Jeter is overrated it cannot be wrong if my opinion is that Derek Jeter is 6’9 it is no longer an opinion but a misstated fact.
3/7/2019 12:07 PM
you're wrong. Derek Jeter is not overrated. Now Big Papi...he's overrated! LOL
3/7/2019 12:15 PM
Posted by cccp1014 on 3/7/2019 12:07:00 PM (view original):
If there is a scientific study then the opinion becomes a fact and may be wrong. If my opinion is that Derek Jeter is overrated it cannot be wrong if my opinion is that Derek Jeter is 6’9 it is no longer an opinion but a misstated fact.
There are different kinds of opinions.

There's the kind that can't be wrong, which are more like tastes. You can have the opinion that blue is the best color or that Monet is the best painter. Those are personal to you. No one can say those are wrong.

But there are other kinds of opinions that can be wrong. For example, someone could have the opinion that going into a Jewish temple and shouting anti-Semitic things is a good idea. That's clearly an opinion that is wrong.
3/7/2019 12:27 PM
Posted by wylie715 on 3/7/2019 12:15:00 PM (view original):
you're wrong. Derek Jeter is not overrated. Now Big Papi...he's overrated! LOL
Derek Jeter...The best leftfielder to ever play shortstop his entire career.

And if you want to talk suffering. I'm a LIONS fan.

Just kill me.
3/7/2019 1:20 PM
Posted by bad_luck on 3/7/2019 9:26:00 AM (view original):
Posted by The Taint on 3/7/2019 9:06:00 AM (view original):
Posted by bronxcheer on 3/6/2019 1:48:00 PM (view original):
I still have the Smallpox vaccine scar on my arm from the 1960's
Mine's covered up by my Raider tattoo.
Rather have smallpox.
TOUCHDOWN BL!
3/7/2019 1:22 PM
Posted by cccp1014 on 3/7/2019 10:23:00 AM (view original):
Posted by tangplay on 3/7/2019 10:21:00 AM (view original):
Posted by cccp1014 on 3/7/2019 9:52:00 AM (view original):
Posted by tangplay on 3/7/2019 9:46:00 AM (view original):
Is losing a coin toss choking?
Getting to the coin toss is choking
Sorry that we came back from.a 14-0 deficit.
The game didn't start out 14-0. You allowed that to happen. And it could have been a lot worse if not for that Int. You were home and big faves and lost and also lost in NE. Choke is on you...
How's your owner doing?
3/7/2019 1:59 PM
He is worth $6.6Bn. He is fine.
3/7/2019 2:11 PM
Yeah, solicitating prostitution is fine as long as you are rich.
3/7/2019 2:38 PM
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