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Ritter's counsel argued that the judge had committed no offense that could be labeled a high crime or misdemeanor and was guilty only of exercising "poor judgment." In fact, Ritter was found "not guilty" by narrow margins on six of seven articles of impeachment, but on the seventh article was found guilty, by exactly the required two-thirds vote. The Senate was putting judges “on notice that Congress would remove them from office if the sum total of their conduct was regarded as showing unfitness for judicial office,” commented The New York Times, “regardless of whether a specific high crime or misdemeanor, in the language of the Constitution, could be established under ordinary rules of evidence” (“Judge Ritter Convicted by Senate,” April 18, 1936).
3/11/2019 1:12 PM
imagine if the democrats had the house and the senate

trump, being republican and tricky like dick, could easily find himself impeached

he would have to be a lot nicer to those august bodies to avoid it

but he has the votes. impeachment is a waste of time



you wanna impeach a president, win some goddam elections


3/11/2019 1:30 PM (edited)
Dahs - I’m just going to leave you this link. It’s really interesting stuff. It addresses your common law concerns and was written by a conservative JD:

https://www.cato.org/publications/white-paper/indispensable-remedy-broad-scope-constitutions-impeachment-power#full

3/11/2019 1:26 PM
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I think America is at its best when ******** aren't allowed to discriminate against someone because of their prefrences.
******** like you, who accused Bob Kraft of something even the prosecutor did not?
He lured Chinese immigrants to America with the promise of jobs, and instead put them in human trafficking. Disgusting.
LMAO.

tang has flipped into insanity.

When New England Patriots owner Robert Kraft was charged with soliciting prostitution at Orchids of Asia Day Spa in Jupiter, Florida, it was billionaire names like his that made headlines. But the more significant story is that of the women whose names we may never know, Chinese immigrants who police believe were lured to America with the promise of jobs, but instead found themselves in "sexual servitude."

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/investigations/2019/03/01/robert-kraft-sex-trafficking-sexual-stereotypes-asian-women-fetish-chinese-korean-prostitution/3016047002/

Nowhere does it say he knew or supported trafficking and he was not charged for that. You’re butthurt over the KC humiliation. Choke is on you. LMAO.
It's in the first line. Can you read?
Doesn't say that all. Can you? Captain Journalism. LMAO.

Failed Journalist. Failed Fan. Failed Human.
can you even go one post directed at tangplay without insulting him or calling him names?
3/11/2019 1:28 PM
Are you familiar with Impeachment: a Handbook?
3/11/2019 1:35 PM
By Charles Black, I think.
3/11/2019 1:35 PM
3/11/2019 1:49 PM
From the Cato piece:

That actual crimes are not a prerequisite for impeachment is a settled point among constitutional scholars. Even those who take a restrictive view of the scope of high crimes and misdemeanors, such as Cass Sunstein, recognize that “an impeachable offense, to qualify as such, need not be a crime.”160 Michael Gerhardt sums up the academic consensus: “The major disagreement is not over whether impeachable offenses should be strictly limited to indictable crimes, but rather over the range of nonindictable offenses on which an impeachment may be based.”161
3/11/2019 1:55 PM
Posted by dahsdebater on 3/11/2019 1:35:00 PM (view original):
Are you familiar with Impeachment: a Handbook?
Familiar to the point that I know it exists and I’ve seen excerpts from it. (The Cato piece I linked also talks about it)

Never read it and can’t quote it.
3/11/2019 1:56 PM
Dealing with congressional doctrine much as we might parse the judicial opinions of a multimember panel, we can say that Nixon’s resignation stands for the proposition that where agents of a presidential campaign have violated the law in order to acquire political intelligence, and where the president, whether or not he was aware of the scheme, subsequently engages in a course of conduct intended to impede or mislead investigation of this illicit operation—such as by counseling witnesses to issue false statements, promising or paying “hush money” to potential witnesses, making false statements to US officials, withholding evidence, promising favorable treatment for silence, or making false statements to the public—there is a sufficient predicate for impeachment.
3/11/2019 1:58 PM
Black, who was arguably the most-respected Constitutional scholar of the 20th century (his treatise on maritime law is cited more often than any actual legal document on maritime law), strongly felt that preponderance of the evidence was not a sufficient burden for conviction in impeachment cases (although he also argued for a standard below "beyond a reasonable doubt.")

I've seen the perspective embraced in your excerpt above, and I strongly disagree with it. I also think it's a gross exaggeration to state that the academic "consensus" is that this is correct. In fact, the list of things for which impeachment proceedings may be conducted are one of the very few things the Constitution actually enumerates on the matter. Treason, bribery, other high crimes and misdemeanors. The founding fathers actively addressed this during the Constitutional Convention, and James Madison's influence led to the final text which to all appearances expressly does require criminal conduct. Ultimately his argument that allowing impeachment for incompetence would make the president subservient to Congress was held by the majority of the founders to be correct. That's why we have the Constitutional text we have. Trying to change it back to what George Mason wanted - and lost - at the Constitutional Convention is revisionist history.
3/11/2019 2:06 PM
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I think America is at its best when ******** aren't allowed to discriminate against someone because of their prefrences.
******** like you, who accused Bob Kraft of something even the prosecutor did not?
He lured Chinese immigrants to America with the promise of jobs, and instead put them in human trafficking. Disgusting.
LMAO.

tang has flipped into insanity.

When New England Patriots owner Robert Kraft was charged with soliciting prostitution at Orchids of Asia Day Spa in Jupiter, Florida, it was billionaire names like his that made headlines. But the more significant story is that of the women whose names we may never know, Chinese immigrants who police believe were lured to America with the promise of jobs, but instead found themselves in "sexual servitude."

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/investigations/2019/03/01/robert-kraft-sex-trafficking-sexual-stereotypes-asian-women-fetish-chinese-korean-prostitution/3016047002/

Nowhere does it say he knew or supported trafficking and he was not charged for that. You’re butthurt over the KC humiliation. Choke is on you. LMAO.
It's in the first line. Can you read?
Doesn't say that all. Can you? Captain Journalism. LMAO.

Failed Journalist. Failed Fan. Failed Human.
It clearly insinuates that Kraft was a part of the reason that line two happened.

This does too.
https://www.google.com/amp/www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/26055197/patriots-owner-robert-kraft-facing-charges-solicitation-prostitution%3fplatform=amp
No it does not. So now you went from clearly state to insinuates? Make up your mind, failed journalist.
3/11/2019 2:12 PM
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We have $22Trn in debt and budget won't be balanced for 15 years? I recommend a 2% Federal Sales Tax on everything. That would be a great topic.
It’s a ****** idea. Go away.
Not as good as you 99% tax rate idea? Why are you an expert, Willie Loman?
3/11/2019 2:13 PM
Put it this way, regardless of whether or not the standard is preponderance of the evidence or above, it seems likely that Trump, in front of an impartial jury, could reasonably be convicted beyond a reasonable doubt for campaign finance violations and fraud related to his charity.

It’s a moot point though, because it wouldn’t be an impartial jury, it would be the Senate. And, absent a tremendous smoking gun, the 2/3 of the Senate will never convict him no matter what.
3/11/2019 2:14 PM
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Posted by cccp1014 on 3/10/2019 12:35:00 PM (view original):
Posted by tangplay on 3/10/2019 11:20:00 AM (view original):
I think America is at its best when ******** aren't allowed to discriminate against someone because of their prefrences.
******** like you, who accused Bob Kraft of something even the prosecutor did not?
He lured Chinese immigrants to America with the promise of jobs, and instead put them in human trafficking. Disgusting.
LMAO.

tang has flipped into insanity.

When New England Patriots owner Robert Kraft was charged with soliciting prostitution at Orchids of Asia Day Spa in Jupiter, Florida, it was billionaire names like his that made headlines. But the more significant story is that of the women whose names we may never know, Chinese immigrants who police believe were lured to America with the promise of jobs, but instead found themselves in "sexual servitude."

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/investigations/2019/03/01/robert-kraft-sex-trafficking-sexual-stereotypes-asian-women-fetish-chinese-korean-prostitution/3016047002/

Nowhere does it say he knew or supported trafficking and he was not charged for that. You’re butthurt over the KC humiliation. Choke is on you. LMAO.
It's in the first line. Can you read?
Doesn't say that all. Can you? Captain Journalism. LMAO.

Failed Journalist. Failed Fan. Failed Human.
It clearly insinuates that Kraft was a part of the reason that line two happened.

This does too.
https://www.google.com/amp/www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/26055197/patriots-owner-robert-kraft-facing-charges-solicitation-prostitution%3fplatform=amp
No it does not. So now you went from clearly state to insinuates? Make up your mind, failed journalist.
Did I say clearly states?
3/11/2019 2:24 PM
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