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Posted by tecwrg on 3/11/2019 8:13:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 3/11/2019 6:07:00 PM (view original):
Posted by tecwrg on 3/11/2019 5:53:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 3/11/2019 5:37:00 PM (view original):
No one is unbiased.
Wrong.
Explain.
Do you speak for everybody?
Not sure how acknowledging the fact that everyone sees the world through their own personal lens could be “speaking for everybody” but no, I don’t speak for everybody.
3/11/2019 8:27 PM
75,000-100,000 per month attempting to enter is a problem, a crisis, despite what the left claims. They can only be held for 20 days, then are released into our country. Most fail to show for their hearings. Trump is happy to debate this with Chuck and Nancy, and will take this to the voters next year.
3/11/2019 8:31 PM
He tried the scary brown caravans thing in November. This time more Repub. Senate seats will be up for grabs along with every House seat.
3/11/2019 8:45 PM
Posted by DoctorKz on 3/11/2019 8:31:00 PM (view original):
75,000-100,000 per month attempting to enter is a problem, a crisis, despite what the left claims. They can only be held for 20 days, then are released into our country. Most fail to show for their hearings. Trump is happy to debate this with Chuck and Nancy, and will take this to the voters next year.

75,000-100,000 per month attempting to enter is a problem, a crisis, despite what the left claims.

It isn't if most of those people are women and children trying to escape persecution.

They can only be held for 20 days, then are released into our country.

That's not how catch and release works.

Most fail to show for their hearings.

That's also not true. Not even close to being true.

3/11/2019 8:59 PM
Posted by DoctorKz on 3/11/2019 8:18:00 PM (view original):
Impeachment does not mean removal. Unless something heinous is unearthed, Republicans in the Senate will not vote to remove Trump. Pelosi knows this, so she is downplaying the notion. Problem for her is within her party, they are vehemently screaming for his removal.
Yep, all 10% of US.
3/11/2019 9:00 PM
Posted by bad_luck on 3/11/2019 8:27:00 PM (view original):
Posted by tecwrg on 3/11/2019 8:13:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 3/11/2019 6:07:00 PM (view original):
Posted by tecwrg on 3/11/2019 5:53:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 3/11/2019 5:37:00 PM (view original):
No one is unbiased.
Wrong.
Explain.
Do you speak for everybody?
Not sure how acknowledging the fact that everyone sees the world through their own personal lens could be “speaking for everybody” but no, I don’t speak for everybody.
Cool.

Then stop pretending that you do.
3/11/2019 9:00 PM
Posted by DoctorKz on 3/11/2019 8:26:00 PM (view original):
Obama spent how much on what?

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/01/07/obama-immigration-enforcement/1815667/

Story Highlights
  • $18B was spent in '12 by ICE, US-Visit program and Customs and Border Protection
  • Border arrests dropped, with 2011 having the fewest in nearly 40 years
  • Immigration is the 'highest law enforcement priority' based on budget, case volumes


Trump's $5.7B request for southern border enforcement was less than 1/10th of 1 percent of the budget. Far less than Obama spent on the northern border, which saw some residents and farmers displaced. We didn't hear much about that...huh.
5.7B is not enough to actually build the wall, try 10x that.

You really are uninformed, aren't you... well you won't be on long enough to actually debate me on this so guess you can go back to you ignorant echo chamber.
3/11/2019 9:01 PM
Posted by tecwrg on 3/11/2019 9:00:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 3/11/2019 8:27:00 PM (view original):
Posted by tecwrg on 3/11/2019 8:13:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 3/11/2019 6:07:00 PM (view original):
Posted by tecwrg on 3/11/2019 5:53:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 3/11/2019 5:37:00 PM (view original):
No one is unbiased.
Wrong.
Explain.
Do you speak for everybody?
Not sure how acknowledging the fact that everyone sees the world through their own personal lens could be “speaking for everybody” but no, I don’t speak for everybody.
Cool.

Then stop pretending that you do.
He is still right that no one is unbiased...
3/11/2019 9:02 PM
CCCP is biased for Israel and against Democrats.
3/11/2019 9:02 PM
Posted by tecwrg on 3/11/2019 9:00:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 3/11/2019 8:27:00 PM (view original):
Posted by tecwrg on 3/11/2019 8:13:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 3/11/2019 6:07:00 PM (view original):
Posted by tecwrg on 3/11/2019 5:53:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 3/11/2019 5:37:00 PM (view original):
No one is unbiased.
Wrong.
Explain.
Do you speak for everybody?
Not sure how acknowledging the fact that everyone sees the world through their own personal lens could be “speaking for everybody” but no, I don’t speak for everybody.
Cool.

Then stop pretending that you do.
Cool, I never did. That doesn’t change the fact that no one is unbiased.
3/11/2019 9:14 PM
Posted by tangplay on 3/11/2019 9:01:00 PM (view original):
Posted by DoctorKz on 3/11/2019 8:26:00 PM (view original):
Obama spent how much on what?

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/01/07/obama-immigration-enforcement/1815667/

Story Highlights
  • $18B was spent in '12 by ICE, US-Visit program and Customs and Border Protection
  • Border arrests dropped, with 2011 having the fewest in nearly 40 years
  • Immigration is the 'highest law enforcement priority' based on budget, case volumes


Trump's $5.7B request for southern border enforcement was less than 1/10th of 1 percent of the budget. Far less than Obama spent on the northern border, which saw some residents and farmers displaced. We didn't hear much about that...huh.
5.7B is not enough to actually build the wall, try 10x that.

You really are uninformed, aren't you... well you won't be on long enough to actually debate me on this so guess you can go back to you ignorant echo chamber.
There are 8-10 areas that need a barrier. Sure, they could spend more. The input Trump has gotten from those who are actually there came up with the figures.

What bothers me most is Dems claim to be for enforcement, barriers, etc, won't fund it cuz Trump wants it. They, most of them, have voted for funding before.
3/11/2019 9:35 PM
Posted by DoctorKz on 3/11/2019 9:35:00 PM (view original):
Posted by tangplay on 3/11/2019 9:01:00 PM (view original):
Posted by DoctorKz on 3/11/2019 8:26:00 PM (view original):
Obama spent how much on what?

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/01/07/obama-immigration-enforcement/1815667/

Story Highlights
  • $18B was spent in '12 by ICE, US-Visit program and Customs and Border Protection
  • Border arrests dropped, with 2011 having the fewest in nearly 40 years
  • Immigration is the 'highest law enforcement priority' based on budget, case volumes


Trump's $5.7B request for southern border enforcement was less than 1/10th of 1 percent of the budget. Far less than Obama spent on the northern border, which saw some residents and farmers displaced. We didn't hear much about that...huh.
5.7B is not enough to actually build the wall, try 10x that.

You really are uninformed, aren't you... well you won't be on long enough to actually debate me on this so guess you can go back to you ignorant echo chamber.
There are 8-10 areas that need a barrier. Sure, they could spend more. The input Trump has gotten from those who are actually there came up with the figures.

What bothers me most is Dems claim to be for enforcement, barriers, etc, won't fund it cuz Trump wants it. They, most of them, have voted for funding before.
.... and that's why the number seems to rise every time Trump brings it up?

Yes, Dems are hypocrites. Welcome to politics.
3/11/2019 9:52 PM
We shall see how the voters wanna go on this. I think it is a win for him. Not easy for Dems to defend their position.
3/11/2019 10:17 PM
Yeah... but he is objectively wrong.

The voters already decided. They don't want the wall. That's why Trump's shutdown backfired.
3/11/2019 10:25 PM
I disagree. One of the issues he ran on, and won on, was border enforcement.

He may have lost the battle, but may still get his wall.

I don't agree with everything he says and does, but he is doing what he said he'd do. Repeal and replace is his only promise he hasn't made good on...

Most Americans had no idea what he would do. Based on his accomplishments versus his campaign promises, how will voters view him for reelection ? He is a known commodity, love him or hate him. If the economy continues on this trajectory, he may not need a change of address card for awhile.
3/11/2019 10:48 PM (edited)
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