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I am hoping that an infrastructure plan is taken up in Congress soon. I think it would be healthy to see a large piece of legislation get done with bipartisan support. That and there's a ton of stuff in need of fixing across the country. ..
3/11/2019 10:43 PM
Posted by DoctorKz on 3/11/2019 10:48:00 PM (view original):
I disagree. One of the issues he ran on, and won on, was border enforcement.

He may have lost the battle, but may still get his wall.

I don't agree with everything he says and does, but he is doing what he said he'd do. Repeal and replace is his only promise he hasn't made good on...

Most Americans had no idea what he would do. Based on his accomplishments versus his campaign promises, how will voters view him for reelection ? He is a known commodity, love him or hate him. If the economy continues on this trajectory, he may not need a change of address card for awhile.
He is going the wrong way on -eliminating the debt-.
3/11/2019 10:50 PM
Posted by tangplay on 3/11/2019 10:25:00 PM (view original):
Yeah... but he is objectively wrong.

The voters already decided. They don't want the wall. That's why Trump's shutdown backfired.
Depends on which vacuum you live in. Get away from the coasts, people tend to disagree with your view.

Look at his approval numbers with African Americans. He could get 15-20% of their vote, perhaps more. If he does that, he probably wins bigly ...
3/11/2019 10:50 PM
Posted by ncmusician_7 on 3/11/2019 10:50:00 PM (view original):
Posted by DoctorKz on 3/11/2019 10:48:00 PM (view original):
I disagree. One of the issues he ran on, and won on, was border enforcement.

He may have lost the battle, but may still get his wall.

I don't agree with everything he says and does, but he is doing what he said he'd do. Repeal and replace is his only promise he hasn't made good on...

Most Americans had no idea what he would do. Based on his accomplishments versus his campaign promises, how will voters view him for reelection ? He is a known commodity, love him or hate him. If the economy continues on this trajectory, he may not need a change of address card for awhile.
He is going the wrong way on -eliminating the debt-.
True. His OMB chief addressed that today. They are looking to reverse that. Spending is still too high. And they could eliminate some of the loopholes that the wealthy take great advantage of. They could tweak rates on the wealthy. But it is a concern. In 2015, Trump said 24T was the over the falls number...

Funny how the Left are concerned now, they didn't give a rat's *** as Obama drove it up through the clouds...
3/11/2019 10:56 PM
Posted by DoctorKz on 3/11/2019 10:48:00 PM (view original):
I disagree. One of the issues he ran on, and won on, was border enforcement.

He may have lost the battle, but may still get his wall.

I don't agree with everything he says and does, but he is doing what he said he'd do. Repeal and replace is his only promise he hasn't made good on...

Most Americans had no idea what he would do. Based on his accomplishments versus his campaign promises, how will voters view him for reelection ? He is a known commodity, love him or hate him. If the economy continues on this trajectory, he may not need a change of address card for awhile.
Oh he's gonna get re-elected... democrats are incompetent.

But he hasn't made good on his promise on the wall... first off the wall isn't built, secondly, Mexico isn't paying for it.
3/11/2019 10:56 PM
Posted by DoctorKz on 3/11/2019 10:43:00 PM (view original):
I am hoping that an infrastructure plan is taken up in Congress soon. I think it would be healthy to see a large piece of legislation get done with bipartisan support. That and there's a ton of stuff in need of fixing across the country. ..
Agreed.
3/11/2019 10:56 PM
Posted by DoctorKz on 3/11/2019 10:51:00 PM (view original):
Posted by tangplay on 3/11/2019 10:25:00 PM (view original):
Yeah... but he is objectively wrong.

The voters already decided. They don't want the wall. That's why Trump's shutdown backfired.
Depends on which vacuum you live in. Get away from the coasts, people tend to disagree with your view.

Look at his approval numbers with African Americans. He could get 15-20% of their vote, perhaps more. If he does that, he probably wins bigly ...
OK, but a majority of people still don't want the wall. You just pointed out that different groups of people have different opinions.

He isn't going to get 15-20% of the black vote. He got 8% in 16. He'll be lucky to get 10% in 20.
3/11/2019 10:58 PM
If, and I say if, the economy grows much faster, revenues should be enough to begin to reverse the trend...proof is in the pudding.
3/11/2019 10:58 PM
Posted by DoctorKz on 3/11/2019 10:56:00 PM (view original):
Posted by ncmusician_7 on 3/11/2019 10:50:00 PM (view original):
Posted by DoctorKz on 3/11/2019 10:48:00 PM (view original):
I disagree. One of the issues he ran on, and won on, was border enforcement.

He may have lost the battle, but may still get his wall.

I don't agree with everything he says and does, but he is doing what he said he'd do. Repeal and replace is his only promise he hasn't made good on...

Most Americans had no idea what he would do. Based on his accomplishments versus his campaign promises, how will voters view him for reelection ? He is a known commodity, love him or hate him. If the economy continues on this trajectory, he may not need a change of address card for awhile.
He is going the wrong way on -eliminating the debt-.
True. His OMB chief addressed that today. They are looking to reverse that. Spending is still too high. And they could eliminate some of the loopholes that the wealthy take great advantage of. They could tweak rates on the wealthy. But it is a concern. In 2015, Trump said 24T was the over the falls number...

Funny how the Left are concerned now, they didn't give a rat's *** as Obama drove it up through the clouds...

And they could eliminate some of the loopholes that the wealthy take great advantage of. They could tweak rates on the wealthy.

ha! ha ha! Trump? Doing that? lol

3/11/2019 10:59 PM
Posted by tangplay on 3/11/2019 10:56:00 PM (view original):
Posted by DoctorKz on 3/11/2019 10:48:00 PM (view original):
I disagree. One of the issues he ran on, and won on, was border enforcement.

He may have lost the battle, but may still get his wall.

I don't agree with everything he says and does, but he is doing what he said he'd do. Repeal and replace is his only promise he hasn't made good on...

Most Americans had no idea what he would do. Based on his accomplishments versus his campaign promises, how will voters view him for reelection ? He is a known commodity, love him or hate him. If the economy continues on this trajectory, he may not need a change of address card for awhile.
Oh he's gonna get re-elected... democrats are incompetent.

But he hasn't made good on his promise on the wall... first off the wall isn't built, secondly, Mexico isn't paying for it.
Construction is underway. And with an improved trade deal with Mexico, they are paying for it, albeit in a roundabout way. Perception is a funny thing, ain't it?
3/11/2019 11:00 PM
Posted by tangplay on 3/11/2019 10:59:00 PM (view original):
Posted by DoctorKz on 3/11/2019 10:56:00 PM (view original):
Posted by ncmusician_7 on 3/11/2019 10:50:00 PM (view original):
Posted by DoctorKz on 3/11/2019 10:48:00 PM (view original):
I disagree. One of the issues he ran on, and won on, was border enforcement.

He may have lost the battle, but may still get his wall.

I don't agree with everything he says and does, but he is doing what he said he'd do. Repeal and replace is his only promise he hasn't made good on...

Most Americans had no idea what he would do. Based on his accomplishments versus his campaign promises, how will voters view him for reelection ? He is a known commodity, love him or hate him. If the economy continues on this trajectory, he may not need a change of address card for awhile.
He is going the wrong way on -eliminating the debt-.
True. His OMB chief addressed that today. They are looking to reverse that. Spending is still too high. And they could eliminate some of the loopholes that the wealthy take great advantage of. They could tweak rates on the wealthy. But it is a concern. In 2015, Trump said 24T was the over the falls number...

Funny how the Left are concerned now, they didn't give a rat's *** as Obama drove it up through the clouds...

And they could eliminate some of the loopholes that the wealthy take great advantage of. They could tweak rates on the wealthy.

ha! ha ha! Trump? Doing that? lol

He IS on record as saying that he is open to it.
3/11/2019 11:01 PM
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Posted by bad_luck on 3/11/2019 5:37:00 PM (view original):
No one is unbiased.
Wrong.
Explain.
Do you speak for everybody?
Not sure how acknowledging the fact that everyone sees the world through their own personal lens could be “speaking for everybody” but no, I don’t speak for everybody.
Cool.

Then stop pretending that you do.
Cool, I never did. That doesn’t change the fact that no one is unbiased.
Fact?

Or maybe just your opinion?
3/11/2019 11:05 PM
Is the majority opposed to a wall?

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fox-news-poll-most-voters-favor-immigration-deal
3/11/2019 11:14 PM
Posted by DoctorKz on 3/11/2019 11:00:00 PM (view original):
Posted by tangplay on 3/11/2019 10:56:00 PM (view original):
Posted by DoctorKz on 3/11/2019 10:48:00 PM (view original):
I disagree. One of the issues he ran on, and won on, was border enforcement.

He may have lost the battle, but may still get his wall.

I don't agree with everything he says and does, but he is doing what he said he'd do. Repeal and replace is his only promise he hasn't made good on...

Most Americans had no idea what he would do. Based on his accomplishments versus his campaign promises, how will voters view him for reelection ? He is a known commodity, love him or hate him. If the economy continues on this trajectory, he may not need a change of address card for awhile.
Oh he's gonna get re-elected... democrats are incompetent.

But he hasn't made good on his promise on the wall... first off the wall isn't built, secondly, Mexico isn't paying for it.
Construction is underway. And with an improved trade deal with Mexico, they are paying for it, albeit in a roundabout way. Perception is a funny thing, ain't it?

Construction is underway.

OK, so why does he need the money?

And with an improved trade deal with Mexico, they are paying for it, albeit in a roundabout way

That's BS and you know it.

3/11/2019 11:19 PM
Posted by DoctorKz on 3/11/2019 11:14:00 PM (view original):
Is the majority opposed to a wall?

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fox-news-poll-most-voters-favor-immigration-deal
Did you read the article? It's from Fox News and it still backs up my claims.
3/11/2019 11:20 PM
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