D3 TEAM RECRUITING A D1 PLAYER Topic

Posted by Benis on 5/24/2019 11:13:00 AM (view original):
You know this game is completely FUBAR when there are posts asking if a D3 team can sign a 5 star recruit.
I've recruited bottom division one players that ended up being 3 on the record board for the team I am currrently with.
5/24/2019 12:26 PM
I recruit exclusively from D1 recruits for my D3 team.

They key is to not aim too high, look for low-level D1 players who have moderate to high potential in core attributes, and who have some sort of flaws that make them unattractive to D1 coaches.

NEVER spend any money on a D1 recruit in RS1. The whole point of RS1 (when doing this) is to position yourself for RS2.

Use the time between RS1 and RS2 to evaluate the recruits you've unlocked during RS1, and then re-rank them in terms of attainability.

Once a human D1 coach has targeted one of your guys, especially if his school has a high prestige, back off immediately and focus on the next guy on your list.
5/24/2019 12:49 PM
Posted by tecwrg on 5/24/2019 12:49:00 PM (view original):
I recruit exclusively from D1 recruits for my D3 team.

They key is to not aim too high, look for low-level D1 players who have moderate to high potential in core attributes, and who have some sort of flaws that make them unattractive to D1 coaches.

NEVER spend any money on a D1 recruit in RS1. The whole point of RS1 (when doing this) is to position yourself for RS2.

Use the time between RS1 and RS2 to evaluate the recruits you've unlocked during RS1, and then re-rank them in terms of attainability.

Once a human D1 coach has targeted one of your guys, especially if his school has a high prestige, back off immediately and focus on the next guy on your list.
can you be my mentor tecwrg? :)
5/25/2019 1:56 AM
There are others who are far more knowledgeable and experienced at this game than me.
5/25/2019 7:56 AM
Posted by tecwrg on 5/25/2019 7:56:00 AM (view original):
There are others who are far more knowledgeable and experienced at this game than me.
but they dont have the vision i saw in your response :) Please?
5/26/2019 3:06 AM
Posted by basoy6658 on 5/26/2019 3:06:00 AM (view original):
Posted by tecwrg on 5/25/2019 7:56:00 AM (view original):
There are others who are far more knowledgeable and experienced at this game than me.
but they dont have the vision i saw in your response :) Please?
his answer was pretty awesome vision-wise
5/26/2019 12:13 PM
Posted by gillispie1 on 5/26/2019 12:13:00 PM (view original):
Posted by basoy6658 on 5/26/2019 3:06:00 AM (view original):
Posted by tecwrg on 5/25/2019 7:56:00 AM (view original):
There are others who are far more knowledgeable and experienced at this game than me.
but they dont have the vision i saw in your response :) Please?
his answer was pretty awesome vision-wise
I don't think we have vision in Hoops Dynasty?
5/26/2019 12:37 PM
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Posted by georgerollin on 5/26/2019 4:35:00 PM (view original):
You have zero chance dumb question to begin with
His season total says 1. I'll give him a pass on any question being dumb for now. I agree with zero chance. But let's help the new guys. Not squash em
5/26/2019 7:07 PM
Posted by Benis on 5/24/2019 11:13:00 AM (view original):
You know this game is completely FUBAR when there are posts asking if a D3 team can sign a 5 star recruit.
We'll give this guy, the original poster, a pass, since he's probably new.

To whoever else said he actually had a chance. Shame on you.
5/26/2019 10:50 PM
Posted by thewizard17 on 5/26/2019 10:50:00 PM (view original):
Posted by Benis on 5/24/2019 11:13:00 AM (view original):
You know this game is completely FUBAR when there are posts asking if a D3 team can sign a 5 star recruit.
We'll give this guy, the original poster, a pass, since he's probably new.

To whoever else said he actually had a chance. Shame on you.
how bout a DII team and DIII team battling it out for a DI player? With consideration both at moderate will the DIII stand a chance now?
5/27/2019 11:35 AM
Posted by basoy6658 on 5/27/2019 11:35:00 AM (view original):
Posted by thewizard17 on 5/26/2019 10:50:00 PM (view original):
Posted by Benis on 5/24/2019 11:13:00 AM (view original):
You know this game is completely FUBAR when there are posts asking if a D3 team can sign a 5 star recruit.
We'll give this guy, the original poster, a pass, since he's probably new.

To whoever else said he actually had a chance. Shame on you.
how bout a DII team and DIII team battling it out for a DI player? With consideration both at moderate will the DIII stand a chance now?
The D3 has a chance, but only if the D2 is not highly prioritizing the recruit, or if the D3 has a much better preference profile. The D3 will have to amass much more effort credit, because the D2 team will be able to sign most D1 players during the first cycles of RS2, before the D3 will be able to move above moderate.

This is really important to understand, and a lot of folks still get this wrong.

1) If a D2 and D3 are listed at moderate in RS1, you have no way to know who is “in the lead”. All you know for sure is that both teams are somewhat close in terms of effort credit amassed, and neither can sign the player yet, because you can’t sign D1 guys in the first session, unless you’re a D1 team.

2) If the D2 is ahead in effort credit, and the player has an early or end of period 1 preference, the player will sign with the D2 team immediately in the first cycle of RS2, and that D2 team will be listed as the only “very high” team in consideration.

3) If the D3 is ahead, but not enough to keep the D2 team to moderate, and the player has an early or end of period 1 preference, the player will sign with the D2 team immediately in the first cycle of RS2. In that case, the D2 team could be listed at very high or high. The D3 will still show up as moderate, even if it has considerably more effort credit, because of the “red light” - D3 teams can’t sign D1 pool players until the last 6 cycles / 24 hours.

4) If the D3 has enough of a preference advantage, or has much more highly prioritized the recruit, the D3 team can keep the D2 to moderate throughout the first 5 cycles of RS2. This is the only way the D3 team can win the battle. In that case, once the red light is lifted, on the 6th cycle of RS2, the D3 team will immediately jump to “very high” on consideration, while the D2 stays at moderate. (If the D2 team is listed as anything other than moderate in this case, it’s because the D2 team made a considerable effort credit push on that cycle. This almost never happens, most D2+ teams have spent the resources they’re going to spend well before the last 24 hours.)

5) As a D3 battling a D2, targeting late signing tendency players doesn’t really help, because very few of those players wait until the 6th cycle of RS2 to sign. So you’ll still need to beat the D2 rival in terms of effort credit by a considerable amount in order to keep them at moderate.
5/27/2019 2:38 PM (edited)
Posted by thewizard17 on 5/26/2019 10:50:00 PM (view original):
Posted by Benis on 5/24/2019 11:13:00 AM (view original):
You know this game is completely FUBAR when there are posts asking if a D3 team can sign a 5 star recruit.
We'll give this guy, the original poster, a pass, since he's probably new.

To whoever else said he actually had a chance. Shame on you.
I meant that this isn't an absurd topic and is a reasonable question to ask on the forums.

And that is stupid.
5/27/2019 4:46 PM
Don't have as much experience as some of the other posters, but I usually look at D1 recruits who are either ranked 100+ at their position or unranked. I definitely think it's possible to get recruits ranked a little higher than that (have seen some top teams with players ranked in the 60s/70s), but I try to focus on recruits who aren't going to be a waste of time.

Some of the recruits who are lower ranked/unranked will honestly be a lost cause as well; you have to be cautious in D3 when a D1 level recruit seems like a grand slam. Either D1/D2 users will poach them or a D1 sim will pursue them aggressively at the start. I just learned that the hard way with a guy ranked around 150 for his position who got poached by a higher level user team, and I also lost the chance to pursue a couple backup options who will end up being great D3 players.
5/27/2019 11:24 PM
Posted by shoe3 on 5/27/2019 2:38:00 PM (view original):
Posted by basoy6658 on 5/27/2019 11:35:00 AM (view original):
Posted by thewizard17 on 5/26/2019 10:50:00 PM (view original):
Posted by Benis on 5/24/2019 11:13:00 AM (view original):
You know this game is completely FUBAR when there are posts asking if a D3 team can sign a 5 star recruit.
We'll give this guy, the original poster, a pass, since he's probably new.

To whoever else said he actually had a chance. Shame on you.
how bout a DII team and DIII team battling it out for a DI player? With consideration both at moderate will the DIII stand a chance now?
The D3 has a chance, but only if the D2 is not highly prioritizing the recruit, or if the D3 has a much better preference profile. The D3 will have to amass much more effort credit, because the D2 team will be able to sign most D1 players during the first cycles of RS2, before the D3 will be able to move above moderate.

This is really important to understand, and a lot of folks still get this wrong.

1) If a D2 and D3 are listed at moderate in RS1, you have no way to know who is “in the lead”. All you know for sure is that both teams are somewhat close in terms of effort credit amassed, and neither can sign the player yet, because you can’t sign D1 guys in the first session, unless you’re a D1 team.

2) If the D2 is ahead in effort credit, and the player has an early or end of period 1 preference, the player will sign with the D2 team immediately in the first cycle of RS2, and that D2 team will be listed as the only “very high” team in consideration.

3) If the D3 is ahead, but not enough to keep the D2 team to moderate, and the player has an early or end of period 1 preference, the player will sign with the D2 team immediately in the first cycle of RS2. In that case, the D2 team could be listed at very high or high. The D3 will still show up as moderate, even if it has considerably more effort credit, because of the “red light” - D3 teams can’t sign D1 pool players until the last 6 cycles / 24 hours.

4) If the D3 has enough of a preference advantage, or has much more highly prioritized the recruit, the D3 team can keep the D2 to moderate throughout the first 5 cycles of RS2. This is the only way the D3 team can win the battle. In that case, once the red light is lifted, on the 6th cycle of RS2, the D3 team will immediately jump to “very high” on consideration, while the D2 stays at moderate. (If the D2 team is listed as anything other than moderate in this case, it’s because the D2 team made a considerable effort credit push on that cycle. This almost never happens, most D2+ teams have spent the resources they’re going to spend well before the last 24 hours.)

5) As a D3 battling a D2, targeting late signing tendency players doesn’t really help, because very few of those players wait until the 6th cycle of RS2 to sign. So you’ll still need to beat the D2 rival in terms of effort credit by a considerable amount in order to keep them at moderate.
Very Nice Info! So do i likely have to spend my recruiting budget at Early RS2 just to keep ahead of him a little more?
Or Should i just spend my budget on The Last Cycle's of RS2 where i get off the "red light"?
5/27/2019 11:30 PM
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