re hilary..i say this as an objective comment.
all the while trump was trashing her..stalking her.... exaggerating...threatening to lock her up
she said very little about the collusion..i.e. unusually chummy unkosher contacts between team trump and team putin and the wikileaks.....and of the counter espionage.....she knew what obama knew......beyond a comment that trump was a puppet she bit her tongue like obama did.........for the sake of the institutions......they both deserve so much respect for that.

i was happy to vote for hilary but i was in love with bernie...i made 2 donations.
i respect her very much for all the good she has done her whole life....it is a lot of good.
except for when she shot vince foster.

UPDATE ON TRUMP AND FIENDS

1. PAUL MANAFORT is being sent to rikers to play with the very same bikers.....ny state has indicted paul on 16 charges.....secret grand jury indicted him in march...........some of those charges he already pled guilty for in federal court........pardons be damned........manafort is going down with igbie.

2. trump friend GEORGE NADER was just charged with child pornography discovered on his laptop in march 2017......previously convicted for same in 1991......birds of a feather.....george nadir.

3. MIKE FLYNN - facing sentencing......prosec. team wants to keep promise but judge has been clear about wanting jail time for the russia lover.....lock him up !!

thats funny....the queen thought he was a butler.

Re Hillary... That's why I like Bernie. He seems to be in it to express his genuine beliefs instead of just vying for power.

if hilary just vies for power then why did she start public service when she was so young.
why is it that when women want to help they are vying for power....i.e. they want to be men.
look at the backlash when she tirelessly worked for better healthcare as first lady.
the lady is not a tramp.
the lady is a champ.

dino, you are fully entitled to your opinion of HRC, just as others are entitled to have different opinions. Who knows why she got into public service when she was so young? Certainly not me, and not you either.
I don't recall anyone here calling her a tramp. I just don't happen to think she is a champ either.

you say do not know why she got into public service...thus why do you know she vies for power.
and who is she in a world where deeds actually count.

there are some in politicians i love like lincoln.....jfk.......obama.......olivia martiano......bruno sammartino.
i dont have any emotional attachment to hilary but i respect the hell out of her with a world citizen gratitude for the great things she has done for the world......she has put it all out there and gets mostly derision........simply mind boggling.
im sorry but i dont get it.........channeling the toy store exec. in big......i dont get it.

Posted by dino27 on 6/5/2019 4:02:00 PM (view original):
if hilary just vies for power then why did she start public service when she was so young.
why is it that when women want to help they are vying for power....i.e. they want to be men.
look at the backlash when she tirelessly worked for better healthcare as first lady.
the lady is not a tramp.
the lady is a champ.

She clearly changes her beliefs on a whim in order to appeal to a specific voter and time period. She even changes her accent to sound like whoever she is talking to.

off to get a steak sandwich.
disagree on her priciples...agree on the accent.
again, so what....how many politicians can say they have raised HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS for the disadvantaged.
i believe in good intentioned deeds over beliefs without deeds.

Has Hillary Clinton done good in the world? yes.
Does Hillary Clinton represent the worst in politics for many Americans? yes.

Both can be true.

when you say many americans i dont know what that means.
we live in a polarized society.
the ones who really dislike her are predominantly the trump base....you dont have to say not exclusively of course.
i dont take the opinions of the hardcore trump base very seriously.
i dont really take pride in being an american since trump was elected.
im not talking about you but i see the strong dislike of her that predated trump as having been a harbinger of things to come.
if you say you dont think she was an effective leader fine...ok...np... but to buy in to the crazies that she should be derided...no way.
she was a symbol of progress which meant to the base or should i say debased more power for black people and women and that was anathema to the polorizing people...