ODL Commentary Topic

Posted by copernicus on 6/24/2019 12:37:00 PM (view original):
so my team D is 2 90s and a 73 how does that work out to 71? I'm missing a factor I'm sure because you nailed the minutes but the rest isn't totals x 3
Yeah, I don't just average it out for this stuff. For example the eFG is actually calculated using your team shot totals. The PNT as another example is (sum of each players PNT% * their FGAs) / team FGAs.

Defense is using my preferred way of looking at it which is (players minutes per 82 * 1.02 / 48)*DEF rating. The team column is the average of those. Just a way to account for how long their defense is actually on the floor.
6/24/2019 12:41 PM
Posted by 24kpyrite on 6/24/2019 9:13:00 AM (view original):
3rd Round Commentary:

49. jackedjamie - Deron Williams
50. sappy - Dikembe Mutombo
51. tarheel1991 - Carlos Boozer
52. 6theluckyone- Manu Ginobili
53. copernicus - Bill Russell
54. bds9992 (via gerryred) - Artis Gilmore
55. robusk (via benhoidal) - Tyson Chandler
56. pharrop - Donyell Marshall
57. dBKC - Nikola Jokic
58. NotoriousJ - Brent Barry
59. mikee1 - Amare Stoudemire
60. Midge - Julius Erving
61. dh555 - Terry Porter
62. mptrey - Mike Conley
63. tau1624 - Kyrie Irving
64. 24kpyrite - Ray Allen
65. redbooda - Elvin Hayes
66. gerryred (via bds9992) - Kyle Lowry
67. robusk- Montrezl Harrell
68. jcred5 - Shawn Kemp
69. ysw128 - Elton Brand
70. dBKC (via cjok1051) - Ben Simmons
71. jackedjamie (via jhsukow) - Horace Grant
72. isacqbs58- Rajon Rondo

-Deron at 49! If players like Deron and Chauncey keep falling to the 2nd/3rd round turn, the owners in those spots are going to be very happy!

-Boozer at 51! Way too early for the Boozer

-Manu at 52! Always nice when Manu falls into the third round

-Gilmore at 54! Think he fell to the third round a couple of seasons ago. I think it is great value where you got him, but I do not think I will like him on your team.

-Another 18-19 starter taken in Kyrie, is that 8 or 9 thus far?

-Elvin at 65! Booda doing Booda

-With the rate the 18-19 seasons are being drafted, Harrell at 67 does not seem like a reach at all.

-Brand at 69! Feels like a big drop for Elton. He is pricey, but gives you a nice game at the 3
I show 7 1819 players so far.
6/24/2019 12:49 PM
Posted by robusk on 6/24/2019 12:41:00 PM (view original):
Posted by copernicus on 6/24/2019 12:37:00 PM (view original):
so my team D is 2 90s and a 73 how does that work out to 71? I'm missing a factor I'm sure because you nailed the minutes but the rest isn't totals x 3
Yeah, I don't just average it out for this stuff. For example the eFG is actually calculated using your team shot totals. The PNT as another example is (sum of each players PNT% * their FGAs) / team FGAs.

Defense is using my preferred way of looking at it which is (players minutes per 82 * 1.02 / 48)*DEF rating. The team column is the average of those. Just a way to account for how long their defense is actually on the floor.
Just to expand on this a little, using our two teams as examples: Tyson Chandler should not receive as much credit in the team evaluation for his defensive contribution as Bill Russell even though they are both 90 D because Tyson plays 26 minutes a game and Russell plays 40. Tyson should not receive the same weight in eFG as Chris Paul because Tyson has a 11.4 usage and Paul has a 23.7 usage. Maybe that was obvious to you but I just wanted to offer more context. It makes it a little more complicated to generate the table but I prefer to look at the data that way.
6/24/2019 12:55 PM
makes sense
6/24/2019 1:26 PM
Posted by robusk on 6/24/2019 12:49:00 PM (view original):
Posted by 24kpyrite on 6/24/2019 9:13:00 AM (view original):
3rd Round Commentary:

49. jackedjamie - Deron Williams
50. sappy - Dikembe Mutombo
51. tarheel1991 - Carlos Boozer
52. 6theluckyone- Manu Ginobili
53. copernicus - Bill Russell
54. bds9992 (via gerryred) - Artis Gilmore
55. robusk (via benhoidal) - Tyson Chandler
56. pharrop - Donyell Marshall
57. dBKC - Nikola Jokic
58. NotoriousJ - Brent Barry
59. mikee1 - Amare Stoudemire
60. Midge - Julius Erving
61. dh555 - Terry Porter
62. mptrey - Mike Conley
63. tau1624 - Kyrie Irving
64. 24kpyrite - Ray Allen
65. redbooda - Elvin Hayes
66. gerryred (via bds9992) - Kyle Lowry
67. robusk- Montrezl Harrell
68. jcred5 - Shawn Kemp
69. ysw128 - Elton Brand
70. dBKC (via cjok1051) - Ben Simmons
71. jackedjamie (via jhsukow) - Horace Grant
72. isacqbs58- Rajon Rondo

-Deron at 49! If players like Deron and Chauncey keep falling to the 2nd/3rd round turn, the owners in those spots are going to be very happy!

-Boozer at 51! Way too early for the Boozer

-Manu at 52! Always nice when Manu falls into the third round

-Gilmore at 54! Think he fell to the third round a couple of seasons ago. I think it is great value where you got him, but I do not think I will like him on your team.

-Another 18-19 starter taken in Kyrie, is that 8 or 9 thus far?

-Elvin at 65! Booda doing Booda

-With the rate the 18-19 seasons are being drafted, Harrell at 67 does not seem like a reach at all.

-Brand at 69! Feels like a big drop for Elton. He is pricey, but gives you a nice game at the 3
I show 7 1819 players so far.
I had Giannis, Gobert, George, Harden, Beal, Vucevic, Klay(Assumption) and Kyrie. Add Harrell, Bledsoe and Embiid
6/24/2019 5:49 PM
I might be using 18-19 Simmons too. Still weighing options.
6/24/2019 5:53 PM
Posted by 24kpyrite on 6/24/2019 5:49:00 PM (view original):
Posted by robusk on 6/24/2019 12:49:00 PM (view original):
Posted by 24kpyrite on 6/24/2019 9:13:00 AM (view original):
3rd Round Commentary:

49. jackedjamie - Deron Williams
50. sappy - Dikembe Mutombo
51. tarheel1991 - Carlos Boozer
52. 6theluckyone- Manu Ginobili
53. copernicus - Bill Russell
54. bds9992 (via gerryred) - Artis Gilmore
55. robusk (via benhoidal) - Tyson Chandler
56. pharrop - Donyell Marshall
57. dBKC - Nikola Jokic
58. NotoriousJ - Brent Barry
59. mikee1 - Amare Stoudemire
60. Midge - Julius Erving
61. dh555 - Terry Porter
62. mptrey - Mike Conley
63. tau1624 - Kyrie Irving
64. 24kpyrite - Ray Allen
65. redbooda - Elvin Hayes
66. gerryred (via bds9992) - Kyle Lowry
67. robusk- Montrezl Harrell
68. jcred5 - Shawn Kemp
69. ysw128 - Elton Brand
70. dBKC (via cjok1051) - Ben Simmons
71. jackedjamie (via jhsukow) - Horace Grant
72. isacqbs58- Rajon Rondo

-Deron at 49! If players like Deron and Chauncey keep falling to the 2nd/3rd round turn, the owners in those spots are going to be very happy!

-Boozer at 51! Way too early for the Boozer

-Manu at 52! Always nice when Manu falls into the third round

-Gilmore at 54! Think he fell to the third round a couple of seasons ago. I think it is great value where you got him, but I do not think I will like him on your team.

-Another 18-19 starter taken in Kyrie, is that 8 or 9 thus far?

-Elvin at 65! Booda doing Booda

-With the rate the 18-19 seasons are being drafted, Harrell at 67 does not seem like a reach at all.

-Brand at 69! Feels like a big drop for Elton. He is pricey, but gives you a nice game at the 3
I show 7 1819 players so far.
I had Giannis, Gobert, George, Harden, Beal, Vucevic, Klay(Assumption) and Kyrie. Add Harrell, Bledsoe and Embiid
Bledsoe wasn't picked at the time I posted that but I agree his best season is probably 18-19. Same with Embiid. Giannis: yes. George: yes. Harden: I like 17-18 better. Beal: yes. Vucevic: yes. Klay: I like 14-15 better but you could go either way. Kyrie: yes. Harrell: yes. Embiid: yes. Bledsoe: yes.
6/24/2019 6:02 PM
Posted by robusk on 6/24/2019 6:02:00 PM (view original):
Posted by 24kpyrite on 6/24/2019 5:49:00 PM (view original):
Posted by robusk on 6/24/2019 12:49:00 PM (view original):
Posted by 24kpyrite on 6/24/2019 9:13:00 AM (view original):
3rd Round Commentary:

49. jackedjamie - Deron Williams
50. sappy - Dikembe Mutombo
51. tarheel1991 - Carlos Boozer
52. 6theluckyone- Manu Ginobili
53. copernicus - Bill Russell
54. bds9992 (via gerryred) - Artis Gilmore
55. robusk (via benhoidal) - Tyson Chandler
56. pharrop - Donyell Marshall
57. dBKC - Nikola Jokic
58. NotoriousJ - Brent Barry
59. mikee1 - Amare Stoudemire
60. Midge - Julius Erving
61. dh555 - Terry Porter
62. mptrey - Mike Conley
63. tau1624 - Kyrie Irving
64. 24kpyrite - Ray Allen
65. redbooda - Elvin Hayes
66. gerryred (via bds9992) - Kyle Lowry
67. robusk- Montrezl Harrell
68. jcred5 - Shawn Kemp
69. ysw128 - Elton Brand
70. dBKC (via cjok1051) - Ben Simmons
71. jackedjamie (via jhsukow) - Horace Grant
72. isacqbs58- Rajon Rondo

-Deron at 49! If players like Deron and Chauncey keep falling to the 2nd/3rd round turn, the owners in those spots are going to be very happy!

-Boozer at 51! Way too early for the Boozer

-Manu at 52! Always nice when Manu falls into the third round

-Gilmore at 54! Think he fell to the third round a couple of seasons ago. I think it is great value where you got him, but I do not think I will like him on your team.

-Another 18-19 starter taken in Kyrie, is that 8 or 9 thus far?

-Elvin at 65! Booda doing Booda

-With the rate the 18-19 seasons are being drafted, Harrell at 67 does not seem like a reach at all.

-Brand at 69! Feels like a big drop for Elton. He is pricey, but gives you a nice game at the 3
I show 7 1819 players so far.
I had Giannis, Gobert, George, Harden, Beal, Vucevic, Klay(Assumption) and Kyrie. Add Harrell, Bledsoe and Embiid
Bledsoe wasn't picked at the time I posted that but I agree his best season is probably 18-19. Same with Embiid. Giannis: yes. George: yes. Harden: I like 17-18 better. Beal: yes. Vucevic: yes. Klay: I like 14-15 better but you could go either way. Kyrie: yes. Harrell: yes. Embiid: yes. Bledsoe: yes.
I agree with robusk. I'm actually a big fan of 18-19 Bledsoe, I know it's a small sample size (19 games) but he is doing a great job for me in DH 52 right now. As is Vucevic for that matter, however I do expect Nikola will produce even better in this ODL as he will be a starter and the second option behind Harden. Which brings me to the bearded one. I too like his 17-18 season better. (less turnovers, less fouls among other smaller things).
6/25/2019 8:58 AM
All I need are two high defense wings who can shoot. Gilmore solidifies blocks, low fouls, and rebounding. I’ll get some cheap wings and have everything I need. But, expecting positive commentary around here is like expecting snow in July.
6/25/2019 12:10 PM

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6/25/2019 4:14 PM
I think by the time the 4th round rolls around you kind of need to start thinking about fit and finances - I have no problem w Raja Bell there
6/25/2019 4:33 PM
Posted by copernicus on 6/25/2019 4:33:00 PM (view original):
I think by the time the 4th round rolls around you kind of need to start thinking about fit and finances - I have no problem w Raja Bell there
Truth
6/25/2019 4:54 PM
Row Labels Count Plyers Sum Min Team PER% Team MID% Team PNT% Team Usage Team Oreb% Team Dreb% Team Creb% Team Ast% Tm eFG Sum F/G Tm TO% Weighted Def Sum Salary $/Min Rem
24kpyrite 4 11,421 18% 32% 51% 9.3 32.1% 45.2% 77.3% 35.0% 54.7% 9.8 14.2% 50 31,443,874 $ 159,870
6theluckyone 5 13,151 29% 30% 40% 12.1 21.1% 52.3% 73.4% 52.4% 54.5% 13.1 12.5% 52 34,536,951 $ 163,541
bds9992 4 11,433 13% 41% 46% 10.2 24.7% 48.3% 73.0% 39.4% 56.8% 9.6 13.1% 58 32,337,213 $ 150,916
benhoidal 4 8,779 20% 31% 49% 8.7 14.0% 47.6% 61.6% 34.0% 57.8% 8.9 12.2% 49 24,397,766 $ 174,502
cjok1051 4 9,694 27% 33% 40% 11.6 14.3% 35.3% 49.7% 64.4% 56.4% 8.6 13.8% 46 27,257,581 $ 166,792
copernicus 5 14,068 14% 38% 48% 12.0 26.8% 71.1% 97.9% 50.1% 53.8% 12.9 12.2% 60 37,312,327 $ 148,985
dBKC 5 12,916 9% 33% 58% 10.7 26.1% 49.4% 75.5% 58.3% 58.5% 13.6 14.9% 55 34,927,927 $ 152,670
dh555 5 14,074 13% 32% 54% 10.9 30.0% 61.8% 91.9% 48.7% 56.3% 13.6 13.1% 55 38,397,275 $ 132,449
gerryred 4 10,742 24% 28% 48% 9.8 17.1% 48.8% 65.8% 38.6% 56.6% 10.2 12.4% 56 29,367,366 $ 166,999
isacqbs58 4 11,568 16% 39% 45% 9.6 17.6% 52.7% 70.3% 53.1% 53.4% 10.2 12.5% 66 30,861,211 $ 168,971
jackedjamie 5 14,849 22% 30% 48% 9.4 31.8% 70.2% 102.1% 60.9% 58.1% 11.3 13.6% 56 41,132,975 $ 105,712
jcred5 4 10,869 12% 41% 46% 11.0 23.8% 62.0% 85.8% 58.5% 53.6% 11.1 14.6% 52 31,312,112 $ 150,792
jhsukow 4 10,484 15% 35% 51% 11.4 21.6% 59.6% 81.2% 32.3% 56.0% 11.5 13.5% 50 29,002,968 $ 165,518
Midge 7 15,532 15% 40% 46% 12.3 29.4% 64.5% 93.9% 62.3% 56.3% 14.9 11.6% 40 41,273,368 $ 121,402
mikee1 5 14,277 19% 37% 44% 13.1 26.5% 53.2% 79.7% 56.8% 56.2% 11.9 12.8% 55 39,070,081 $ 126,928
mptrey 5 12,229 22% 32% 45% 11.5 17.6% 59.1% 76.7% 50.7% 55.5% 11.3 13.9% 52 33,405,496 $ 155,452
NotoriousJ 3 9,208 21% 30% 49% 10.3 19.2% 45.4% 64.6% 34.3% 58.2% 8.3 13.4% 55 27,492,257 $ 156,950
pharrop 5 14,023 25% 33% 41% 10.7 27.8% 66.9% 94.8% 42.5% 55.8% 12.4 11.0% 58 37,484,705 $ 145,110
redbooda 4 11,387 27% 39% 35% 17.1 16.6% 58.2% 74.9% 34.4% 52.2% 11.7 11.2% 60 31,060,916 $ 163,111
robusk 5 12,775 11% 31% 58% 8.9 25.1% 57.9% 83.1% 49.6% 56.9% 13.8 13.1% 59 34,504,249 $ 154,664
sappy 5 14,044 13% 39% 48% 13.4 25.0% 63.4% 88.4% 55.9% 56.3% 11.0 13.3% 54 38,836,615 $ 124,981
tarheel1991 5 10,804 14% 40% 46% 11.0 24.4% 50.0% 74.3% 39.6% 58.1% 11.5 13.4% 35 29,544,592 $ 166,513
tau1624 4 11,192 25% 31% 44% 9.6 21.1% 58.8% 79.9% 48.7% 56.5% 10.3 12.8% 61 30,871,977 $ 161,123
ysw128 4 10,918 4% 37% 59% 9.9 27.1% 62.9% 90.0% 25.8% 52.5% 11.3 11.4% 68 30,357,850 $ 160,889
6/27/2019 12:54 AM (edited)
@copernicus: Couldn't really figure out which Terrence Jones season you might be using.
6/26/2019 3:20 PM
One of the seasons you’re projecting for me is wrong, and that’s OK.
6/26/2019 3:27 PM
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