Astros are now off the board

Posted by sinfonian11 on 7/12/2019 11:18:00 AM (view original):

Posted by pumpkinmcp on 7/12/2019 11:16:00 AM (view original):
It wouldn't, though. Only the person who no-showed would feel any consequences.

Let's say Team A is scheduled for 1:00 p.m., they don't pick.
Team B waits till 1:30 p.m. and makes their pick at 1:30.
Team C can then pick, but Team D still cannot pick until their time slot or until Team C has.

The only team punished is the one that didn't appear for their own time slot.

Ah, I see. Interesting point. I'm not going to change the rules mid-round, but I am open to implementing this as soon as the second round if there are no objections.

Bumping this to a new page for a bit more discussion.

I know it's not a 'vote',

but we vote YES...


DBP

One possible situation with the above is the person who missed their pick would likely have to make sure someone hasn't posted while they go madly searching to find a suitable player (as N owners might of actually posted in the time when he goes looking and finally figures out who he's going to pick but meanwhile a bunch of owners then post theirs, either taking the player or blocking his selection).

One way around the above would be the person who was missed could just post "I'm here making pick shortly" which would prevent others from posting until their slot arrives.

Posted by buddhagamer on 7/12/2019 12:03:00 PM (view original):
One possible situation with the above is the person who missed their pick would likely have to make sure someone hasn't posted while they go madly searching to find a suitable player (as N owners might of actually posted in the time when he goes looking and finally figures out who he's going to pick but meanwhile a bunch of owners then post theirs, either taking the player or blocking his selection).

It's almost like being on time or using a proxy is a superior strategy...

I know I would personally be much more lenient about jumping somebody in these scenarios if we were given a heads up that they may or may not be around to make a pick.

Posted by sakensei on 7/12/2019 12:04:00 PM (view original):

Posted by buddhagamer on 7/12/2019 12:03:00 PM (view original):
One possible situation with the above is the person who missed their pick would likely have to make sure someone hasn't posted while they go madly searching to find a suitable player (as N owners might of actually posted in the time when he goes looking and finally figures out who he's going to pick but meanwhile a bunch of owners then post theirs, either taking the player or blocking his selection).

It's almost like being on time or using a proxy is a superior strategy...

Hard to use a proxy if the time slot comes up but sin hasn't posted the protects yet and we go on timed (as you really can't figure out who you can actually pick yet).

And sometimes things come up out of your control (ex. you get called into a meeting when you had every intention on being able to post your pick but the guy in front of you didn't post).

A time slot can't come up if sin hasn't posted the keepers....

I think you're wildly overstating how complicated it is to figure out who is available or not, and how hard it is to send conditional proxies (i.e. I want players A, B, C, and D in that order).

I'm up in like 5-6 picks and I already know 5-6 players that I'd take. By contrast, we have routinely had drafts take weeks upon weeks because people vanish and the whole thing grinds to a screeching halt.

E: Also what AV said. The timed round never starts until after the keepers have been posted?

I am excited to see how the second round goes, hoping it becomes the standard moving forward.

Posted by buddhagamer on 7/12/2019 12:09:00 PM (view original):

Posted by sakensei on 7/12/2019 12:04:00 PM (view original):

Posted by buddhagamer on 7/12/2019 12:03:00 PM (view original):
One possible situation with the above is the person who missed their pick would likely have to make sure someone hasn't posted while they go madly searching to find a suitable player (as N owners might of actually posted in the time when he goes looking and finally figures out who he's going to pick but meanwhile a bunch of owners then post theirs, either taking the player or blocking his selection).

It's almost like being on time or using a proxy is a superior strategy...

Hard to use a proxy if the time slot comes up but sin hasn't posted the protects yet and we go on timed (as you really can't figure out who you can actually pick yet).

And sometimes things come up out of your control (ex. you get called into a meeting when you had every intention on being able to post your pick but the guy in front of you didn't post).

The first example doesn't really make sense, as there is no schedule until keepers are posted.
I do agree that it adds a bit more uncertainty when you do miss a time slot, as opposed to knowing that X number of players will likely have been selected.

I'm guessing he meant if you haven't updated the draft on the front page with who has been picked. It's a fair point, but a quick scroll through should show who has been taken.

Obviously I am in favor of trying it, otherwise what ends up happening is a person who misses their time slot gets an indefinite amount of protected time to make a pick since only one person every 30 minutes can draft.

I kinda like the idea of changing to the new 'rule', with the provision that when the missed owner does show, he posts he is present and picking shortly...

He then has (the normal) 30 minutes to make his selection...If he doesn't, the draft continues on w/o him...


DBP

If we didn't have hours and sometimes days long hangups every. single. draft. it would be much easier to go "oh, so and so has been absent for awhile and hasn't opened their sitemail, guess something came up" and just wait it out for them. Sometimes there are emergencies that come up and someone can't reasonably get on to inform the group, that's fine. Delays have become the norm and not the exception, though, it's the consistency and the predictability with which the drafts get held up that lower the tolerance for said hang ups.

I like the structure that we have. It is logical and predictable. I like to plan ahead and can much more easily do so without the variations. We still get the round done in one day, regardless. I vote not to change.