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Who wants free healthcare for illegals? EVERYONE running via the Blue Brand. LMAO.
tardplay is for it too since he cannot understand that 2+2-10 = -6.
Who wants children locked up in cages? EVERYONE running via the Red Brand. LMAO
cccp is for it too since he is a partisan hack.
tardplay, how would you solve the issue? Let em roam free?
Stupid tardplay.
My solution?
1. Go back to catch and release, with heavy incentives to show up to trial.
2. Never use detention centers and remove military from the border.
3. Ban sanctuary cities
4. Deploy aid to central america, like we did earlier this decade.
5. Keep ports of entry open.
6. Make the pathway to citizenship open and more accessible.
That's what I would do about asylum. Our-non asylum immigration systems just need to be more accessible, and I don't actually mind focusing on more merit based immigration, so long as it doesn't trade off with asylum.
This narrative that democrats don't care about border security is completely asinine.
Using my numerology method.
#1) What incentives? How do you catch and release when these people could be criminals and the kids may be props and not theirs? Please elaborate. Is there a number that you have in your head that equates to too many illegals?
#2) Where should violent criminals who try to cross go? What if the people in border cities feel unsafe?
#3) We agree. Wow. I am shocked you are on board with this.
#4) I agree. Somewhat. How do you ensure the cartels and corrupt politicians do not just pocket the monies?
#5) OK?
#6) More accessible than what? Need more specifics.
All the Democrat candidates raised their hands when the question was asked if illegals should have free healthcare. Pretty frightening.
#1) Asylum seekers are not illegal immigrants. They become illegal when they don't come to their court case, while a overwhelming majority do, especially with proper oversight. The fact is that asylum is a legal process. Very very few are criminals, like I would say less than 1% of 1%. Remember, people applying for asylum are escaping gang violence and persecution, and to apply you have to allow border security to apprehend you.
#2) Did you ever consider that border cities might be disturbed by having military sent to your city? Surprisingly enough, people don't like it when their city turns into a warzone. You make asylum about criminals and violence, when in reality it is about fleeing violence. (Btw, there are examples of border cities complaining about this)
#3) There's no need for sanctuary cities if detention centers don't exist, and legal asylum seekers don't have to fear ICE. Don't know why you are surprised, I have always been anti-sanctuary cities.
#4) You only give to NGO's, like we did with the alliance for prosperity. Like I said, drastically reduced crime and poverty numbers. Trump slashed these programs.
#5) Opening ports of entry permanently would ensure that border officials have a less difficult job, and there is less cloggage at the border.
#6) More accessible than it is now? I'm not an expert on DACA.
It kind of comes down to whether you think healthcare is a human right. I'm not sure we should give healthcare to people who intentionally come to break the law.
#1) I get that but even 1% is too much. And what do they do when we let them go and they have medical needs with no way to pay for it. Congress needs to amend the asylum rules IMO and those that do not show, the Sanctuary cities protect.
#2) I watched a 60 Minutes piece that stated otherwise. If I had a bunch of illegals running into Boston, I would want the military/police there in full force. There is a finite amount of people we can accept into a country with $22Trn of debt and a continuing deficit.
#3) Because you're illogical. And ICE only goes after those who are here illegaly in terms of skipping out on court hearings or having criminal records.
#4) Problem is we have a huge deficit and I am not convinced the monies would be spent appropriately.
#5) And a chance for more drugs and illegals to be smuggled and takes away some leverage we have.
#6) Right now once you have a green card you can become a citizen within five years. But if you are here illegally why should there be a pathway? If my parents steal $1 million and give it to me, there is no pathway for me to keep the stolen monies. I have to give it back.
Is Food a human right? Why not give everyone free food? Healthcare is a right for our citizens, legal visitors and green card holders. Period. End of Story. Sometimes pragmatism has to take place. Or do you want to open the floodgates for billions to come here?
#1) I agree, and I wish that I could guarantee that no one who we let in will be violent. Unfortunately, I can't. I can say that the rate of violence is so low that it is almost meaningless. BTW, you just made an argument for free health care.
#2) But why? We are talking about asylum seekers here, not illegal immigrants. If my city turned into a warzone because of children and families escaping violence, I would be upset. Also there are numerous studies that show that immigrants help the economy in the long run...
#3) That's not actually true, but I will let it go. I am against abolish ICE btw, it sounds like a horrible idea that wouldn't solve anything.
#4) But you are OK with a tax plan that costs trillions and gives primarily to the rich? A wall that, in all likelihood, wouldn't reduce immigration rates near as much as providing aid?
#5) That's not what ports of entry do, lol. I don't see why this helps illegal immigrants.
#6) But if your parents bring you into the country as a kid, you shouldn't be deported.
Yes, food is a human right because we grant the right to life. Without food, no life. We have food stamps. That said, I agree with your point about healthcare (even though immigration is generally positive).
Repeat after me: asylum seekers aren't illegal.
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