TRUMP: Best President Ever (New and Improved!) Topic

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Who wants free healthcare for illegals? EVERYONE running via the Blue Brand. LMAO.

tardplay is for it too since he cannot understand that 2+2-10 = -6.

Who wants children locked up in cages? EVERYONE running via the Red Brand. LMAO

cccp is for it too since he is a partisan hack.
tardplay, how would you solve the issue? Let em roam free?

Stupid tardplay.
My solution?

1. Go back to catch and release, with heavy incentives to show up to trial.

2. Never use detention centers and remove military from the border.

3. Ban sanctuary cities

4. Deploy aid to central america, like we did earlier this decade.

5. Keep ports of entry open.

6. Make the pathway to citizenship open and more accessible.


That's what I would do about asylum. Our-non asylum immigration systems just need to be more accessible, and I don't actually mind focusing on more merit based immigration, so long as it doesn't trade off with asylum.

This narrative that democrats don't care about border security is completely asinine.
Using my numerology method.

#1) What incentives? How do you catch and release when these people could be criminals and the kids may be props and not theirs? Please elaborate. Is there a number that you have in your head that equates to too many illegals?

#2) Where should violent criminals who try to cross go? What if the people in border cities feel unsafe?

#3) We agree. Wow. I am shocked you are on board with this.

#4) I agree. Somewhat. How do you ensure the cartels and corrupt politicians do not just pocket the monies?

#5) OK?

#6) More accessible than what? Need more specifics.

All the Democrat candidates raised their hands when the question was asked if illegals should have free healthcare. Pretty frightening.
#1) Asylum seekers are not illegal immigrants. They become illegal when they don't come to their court case, while a overwhelming majority do, especially with proper oversight. The fact is that asylum is a legal process. Very very few are criminals, like I would say less than 1% of 1%. Remember, people applying for asylum are escaping gang violence and persecution, and to apply you have to allow border security to apprehend you.

#2) Did you ever consider that border cities might be disturbed by having military sent to your city? Surprisingly enough, people don't like it when their city turns into a warzone. You make asylum about criminals and violence, when in reality it is about fleeing violence. (Btw, there are examples of border cities complaining about this)

#3) There's no need for sanctuary cities if detention centers don't exist, and legal asylum seekers don't have to fear ICE. Don't know why you are surprised, I have always been anti-sanctuary cities.

#4) You only give to NGO's, like we did with the alliance for prosperity. Like I said, drastically reduced crime and poverty numbers. Trump slashed these programs.

#5) Opening ports of entry permanently would ensure that border officials have a less difficult job, and there is less cloggage at the border.

#6) More accessible than it is now? I'm not an expert on DACA.

It kind of comes down to whether you think healthcare is a human right. I'm not sure we should give healthcare to people who intentionally come to break the law.
#1) I get that but even 1% is too much. And what do they do when we let them go and they have medical needs with no way to pay for it. Congress needs to amend the asylum rules IMO and those that do not show, the Sanctuary cities protect.

#2) I watched a 60 Minutes piece that stated otherwise. If I had a bunch of illegals running into Boston, I would want the military/police there in full force. There is a finite amount of people we can accept into a country with $22Trn of debt and a continuing deficit.

#3) Because you're illogical. And ICE only goes after those who are here illegaly in terms of skipping out on court hearings or having criminal records.

#4) Problem is we have a huge deficit and I am not convinced the monies would be spent appropriately.

#5) And a chance for more drugs and illegals to be smuggled and takes away some leverage we have.

#6) Right now once you have a green card you can become a citizen within five years. But if you are here illegally why should there be a pathway? If my parents steal $1 million and give it to me, there is no pathway for me to keep the stolen monies. I have to give it back.

Is Food a human right? Why not give everyone free food? Healthcare is a right for our citizens, legal visitors and green card holders. Period. End of Story. Sometimes pragmatism has to take place. Or do you want to open the floodgates for billions to come here?
7/26/2019 11:42 AM
Posted by cccp1014 on 7/26/2019 8:48:00 AM (view original):
Posted by wylie715 on 7/25/2019 10:51:00 PM (view original):
Posted by cccp1014 on 7/25/2019 3:57:00 PM (view original):
Who wants free healthcare for illegals? EVERYONE running via the Blue Brand. LMAO.

tardplay is for it too since he cannot understand that 2+2-10 = -6.

can you go back to wherever it is you've been hiding lately?
I can. But why would I listen to a traitor?
Because you're a Red Sox fan and Red Sox fans are idiots.
7/26/2019 11:59 AM
Posted by cccp1014 on 7/26/2019 11:42:00 AM (view original):
Posted by tangplay on 7/26/2019 10:39:00 AM (view original):
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Posted by tangplay on 7/26/2019 9:18:00 AM (view original):
Posted by cccp1014 on 7/26/2019 8:48:00 AM (view original):
Posted by tangplay on 7/25/2019 11:46:00 PM (view original):
Posted by cccp1014 on 7/25/2019 3:57:00 PM (view original):
Who wants free healthcare for illegals? EVERYONE running via the Blue Brand. LMAO.

tardplay is for it too since he cannot understand that 2+2-10 = -6.

Who wants children locked up in cages? EVERYONE running via the Red Brand. LMAO

cccp is for it too since he is a partisan hack.
tardplay, how would you solve the issue? Let em roam free?

Stupid tardplay.
My solution?

1. Go back to catch and release, with heavy incentives to show up to trial.

2. Never use detention centers and remove military from the border.

3. Ban sanctuary cities

4. Deploy aid to central america, like we did earlier this decade.

5. Keep ports of entry open.

6. Make the pathway to citizenship open and more accessible.


That's what I would do about asylum. Our-non asylum immigration systems just need to be more accessible, and I don't actually mind focusing on more merit based immigration, so long as it doesn't trade off with asylum.

This narrative that democrats don't care about border security is completely asinine.
Using my numerology method.

#1) What incentives? How do you catch and release when these people could be criminals and the kids may be props and not theirs? Please elaborate. Is there a number that you have in your head that equates to too many illegals?

#2) Where should violent criminals who try to cross go? What if the people in border cities feel unsafe?

#3) We agree. Wow. I am shocked you are on board with this.

#4) I agree. Somewhat. How do you ensure the cartels and corrupt politicians do not just pocket the monies?

#5) OK?

#6) More accessible than what? Need more specifics.

All the Democrat candidates raised their hands when the question was asked if illegals should have free healthcare. Pretty frightening.
#1) Asylum seekers are not illegal immigrants. They become illegal when they don't come to their court case, while a overwhelming majority do, especially with proper oversight. The fact is that asylum is a legal process. Very very few are criminals, like I would say less than 1% of 1%. Remember, people applying for asylum are escaping gang violence and persecution, and to apply you have to allow border security to apprehend you.

#2) Did you ever consider that border cities might be disturbed by having military sent to your city? Surprisingly enough, people don't like it when their city turns into a warzone. You make asylum about criminals and violence, when in reality it is about fleeing violence. (Btw, there are examples of border cities complaining about this)

#3) There's no need for sanctuary cities if detention centers don't exist, and legal asylum seekers don't have to fear ICE. Don't know why you are surprised, I have always been anti-sanctuary cities.

#4) You only give to NGO's, like we did with the alliance for prosperity. Like I said, drastically reduced crime and poverty numbers. Trump slashed these programs.

#5) Opening ports of entry permanently would ensure that border officials have a less difficult job, and there is less cloggage at the border.

#6) More accessible than it is now? I'm not an expert on DACA.

It kind of comes down to whether you think healthcare is a human right. I'm not sure we should give healthcare to people who intentionally come to break the law.
#1) I get that but even 1% is too much. And what do they do when we let them go and they have medical needs with no way to pay for it. Congress needs to amend the asylum rules IMO and those that do not show, the Sanctuary cities protect.

#2) I watched a 60 Minutes piece that stated otherwise. If I had a bunch of illegals running into Boston, I would want the military/police there in full force. There is a finite amount of people we can accept into a country with $22Trn of debt and a continuing deficit.

#3) Because you're illogical. And ICE only goes after those who are here illegaly in terms of skipping out on court hearings or having criminal records.

#4) Problem is we have a huge deficit and I am not convinced the monies would be spent appropriately.

#5) And a chance for more drugs and illegals to be smuggled and takes away some leverage we have.

#6) Right now once you have a green card you can become a citizen within five years. But if you are here illegally why should there be a pathway? If my parents steal $1 million and give it to me, there is no pathway for me to keep the stolen monies. I have to give it back.

Is Food a human right? Why not give everyone free food? Healthcare is a right for our citizens, legal visitors and green card holders. Period. End of Story. Sometimes pragmatism has to take place. Or do you want to open the floodgates for billions to come here?
#1) I agree, and I wish that I could guarantee that no one who we let in will be violent. Unfortunately, I can't. I can say that the rate of violence is so low that it is almost meaningless. BTW, you just made an argument for free health care.

#2) But why? We are talking about asylum seekers here, not illegal immigrants. If my city turned into a warzone because of children and families escaping violence, I would be upset. Also there are numerous studies that show that immigrants help the economy in the long run...

#3) That's not actually true, but I will let it go. I am against abolish ICE btw, it sounds like a horrible idea that wouldn't solve anything.

#4) But you are OK with a tax plan that costs trillions and gives primarily to the rich? A wall that, in all likelihood, wouldn't reduce immigration rates near as much as providing aid?

#5) That's not what ports of entry do, lol. I don't see why this helps illegal immigrants.

#6) But if your parents bring you into the country as a kid, you shouldn't be deported.

Yes, food is a human right because we grant the right to life. Without food, no life. We have food stamps. That said, I agree with your point about healthcare (even though immigration is generally positive).

Repeat after me: asylum seekers aren't illegal.
7/26/2019 12:14 PM (edited)
WHO grants me the "right to life"??

I want to meet that sucker, and make sure I grease things a bit.
7/26/2019 12:09 PM
#1) Nothing is FREE. I am OK with universal healthcare if Doctors either go to school for free or have a 5% tax rate for life. Otherwise schooling is too expensive and they cannot charge as much given the one payor system and we won't have enought doctors. I think healthcare should be like auto insurance or universal but first we have to attack college tuition costs.

#2) Because there is a finite amount of people. I start a fraternity and I accept everyone at first because I need numbers. Once I have too many people I can become more choosy, correct? We are at that stage now.

#3) Yes my opinion is that you're illogical and speak with emotion rather than intelligence. I feel sorry for the little kids in El Salvador too but we cannot help everyone.

#4) The Wall is chump change. Entitlements must be attacked. Border Patrol agents want the wall - 89% do. Only reason I am for it. I will judge the tax plan in 2020 after it has had some time to mature and gauge it from there. It helps corporations, such as where I work and that resulted in higher compensation for me. I am not rich.

#5) It helps as a negotation point. I close the ports to you until you help me with illegals coming from your country.

#6) Why? They broke the law? If your parents steal a car and give it to you and you had no idea it was stolen, do you get to keep the car? Please logically explain why you get to stay if you were brought in here illegally?

If food is a human right why don't I get free food but should get free healthcare? Poor people get medicaid too so they do receive in essence free healthcare.

Asylum seekers become illegal once they miss a court date and again how do we medically treat them when we are already in a huge hole debt wise. I would close our borders to asylum seekers until we can resolve our deficit.
7/26/2019 12:12 PM (edited)
Posted by cccp1014 on 7/26/2019 12:12:00 PM (view original):
#1) Nothing is FREE. I am OK with universal healthcare if Doctors either go to school for free or have a 5% tax rate for life. Otherwise schooling is too expensive and they cannot charge as much given the one payor system and we won't have enought doctors. I think healthcare should be like auto insurance or universal but first we have to attack college tuition costs.

#2) Because there is a finite amount of people. I start a fraternity and I accept everyone at first because I need numbers. Once I have too many people I can become more choosy, correct? We are at that stage now.

#3) Yes my opinion is that you're illogical and speak with emotion rather than intelligence. I feel sorry for the little kids in El Salvador too but we cannot help everyone.

#4) The Wall is chump change. Entitlements must be attacked. Border Patrol agents want the wall - 89% do. Only reason I am for it. I will judge the tax plan in 2020 after it has had some time to mature and gauge it from there. It helps corporations, such as where I work and that resulted in higher compensation for me. I am not rich.

#5) It helps as a negotation point. I close the ports to you until you help me with illegals coming from your country.

#6) Why? They broke the law? If your parents steal a car and give it to you and you had no idea it was stolen, do you get to keep the car? Please logically explain why you get to stay if you were brought in here illegally?

If food is a human right why don't I get free food but should get free healthcare? Poor people get medicaid too so they do receive in essence free healthcare.

Asylum seekers become illegal once they miss a court date and again how do we medically treat them when we are already in a huge hole debt wise. I would close our borders to asylum seekers until we can resolve our deficit.
#1) I agree with you there.

#2) The USA has not met carrying capacity. And we can't be choosy over who we want with asylum seekers. Remember, we created the dictatorships in these countries in the first place. We have the responsibility to house the people fleeing our violence.

#3) But we CAN and SHOULD help them. We did in the past. We can do it now.

#4) Funny that you say that the wall is chump change, because nearly all estimates have it costing more than aid to central America...

#5) I don't think you know what ports of entry are....

#6) If children are being mistreated or not fed, we help them. If children are only stable because of illegal means, we don't take away the criminal and allow the child to die. We take care of the child because what their parents did isn't their fault. Cars aren't nessesary to live, they are a luxury.

That system doesn't exactly help the poor. Also food is more affordable than healthcare, generally. People shouldn't be starving in this country.

Correct, BUT the vast majority do show up to court cases. And like I said earlier, economists generally agree that immigrants help the economy.
7/26/2019 12:30 PM
1) Cause I am right.

2) I disagree.

3) I disagree.

4) I disagree

5) I disagree.

6) If your parents steal a car it is not your fault but would you have to give it back? Yes or no?

The Law is broken and needs to be fixed. Obama told them not to come either. It was a bi partisan agreement until Trump won. Until we balance the budget we need to halt all asylum and shrink legal immigration significantly.
7/26/2019 2:23 PM
lol. Balance the budget!

That ain't the way Don the Con ran his businesses into the ground.
7/26/2019 2:39 PM

Economy Misses Trump's 3% Target in 2018




U.S. economic growth in 2018 missed the Trump administration's 3% target by any measure, which could renew criticism of the White House's $1.5 trillion in tax cuts.

The Commerce Department said on Friday that gross domestic product increased at a 2.9% rate last year, confirming an estimate which was published in March. The department's annual revisions to GDP data also showed the economy growing 2.5% in the 12 months through the fourth quarter of 2018, down from the previously reported 3.0%.

President Donald Trump had highlighted the year-on-year growth figure as proof that the tax cuts and a government spending blitz, which have helped to swell the federal government deficit, had put the economy on a sustainable path of strong growth.

The White House and Republicans have argued that the massive tax cuts, which included slashing the corporate tax rate to 21% from 35%, would pay for themselves through strong economic growth. Democrats assailed the tax cuts as benefiting wealthy Americans at the expense of the middle-class.

The updated GDP data, and signs that the economy shifted into lower gear in the second quarter after receiving a boost from exports and an accumulation of unsold goods in the first three months of 2019, are undercutting that argument.

Trump likes to showcase the economy as one of the biggest achievements of his first term in office, declaring last July that his administration had "accomplished an economic turnaround of historic proportions." On the campaign trail, Trump boasted he could boost annual GDP growth to 4%.

7/26/2019 3:40 PM
AT LEAST HE BEAT OBAMAS 1%
7/26/2019 3:41 PM
Posted by DougOut on 7/26/2019 3:41:00 PM (view original):
AT LEAST HE BEAT OBAMAS 1%
AS LONG AS THE WHITE WINS, RIGHT DOUG?
7/26/2019 3:43 PM
The 50 year average is...........2.9%
7/26/2019 3:46 PM
Have Oxy Rush do yer research, jackass
7/26/2019 3:48 PM
Posted by DougOut on 7/26/2019 3:49:00 PM (view original):
Get off your lazy ***
WHITE MANS USUAL RESPONSE TO THOSE HE CONSIDERS HIS INFERIORS
7/26/2019 3:52 PM
Posted by bronxcheer on 7/26/2019 3:40:00 PM (view original):

Economy Misses Trump's 3% Target in 2018




U.S. economic growth in 2018 missed the Trump administration's 3% target by any measure, which could renew criticism of the White House's $1.5 trillion in tax cuts.

The Commerce Department said on Friday that gross domestic product increased at a 2.9% rate last year, confirming an estimate which was published in March. The department's annual revisions to GDP data also showed the economy growing 2.5% in the 12 months through the fourth quarter of 2018, down from the previously reported 3.0%.

President Donald Trump had highlighted the year-on-year growth figure as proof that the tax cuts and a government spending blitz, which have helped to swell the federal government deficit, had put the economy on a sustainable path of strong growth.

The White House and Republicans have argued that the massive tax cuts, which included slashing the corporate tax rate to 21% from 35%, would pay for themselves through strong economic growth. Democrats assailed the tax cuts as benefiting wealthy Americans at the expense of the middle-class.

The updated GDP data, and signs that the economy shifted into lower gear in the second quarter after receiving a boost from exports and an accumulation of unsold goods in the first three months of 2019, are undercutting that argument.

Trump likes to showcase the economy as one of the biggest achievements of his first term in office, declaring last July that his administration had "accomplished an economic turnaround of historic proportions." On the campaign trail, Trump boasted he could boost annual GDP growth to 4%.

WHY ISN'T THIS ARTICLE SOURCED? Hell...I could make this up. Or I could be a lefty commie blog. MEANINGLESS.

STOP WASTING OUR TIME
7/26/2019 3:53 PM
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