Posted by shoe3 on 7/1/2019 10:01:00 PM (view original):
Insane no one challenged you on Hanson, who wants rebuild. Perfect opportunity for a nearby mid major or big 6 bottom-dweller to get a program changer. A lot of folks just aren’t trying very hard, apparently.

It may help them win a few games, but I've never seen one player make that big of a difference in this game.

I will say IRL you can have that one impact player make a huge difference. Just doesn't seem to work that way in HD.

Posted by thewizard17 on 8/29/2019 5:50:00 PM (view original):

Posted by shoe3 on 7/1/2019 10:01:00 PM (view original):
Insane no one challenged you on Hanson, who wants rebuild. Perfect opportunity for a nearby mid major or big 6 bottom-dweller to get a program changer. A lot of folks just aren’t trying very hard, apparently.

It may help them win a few games, but I've never seen one player make that big of a difference in this game.

I will say IRL you can have that one impact player make a huge difference. Just doesn't seem to work that way in HD.

One elite player doesn’t normally make a huge difference on stacked teams. For teams that don’t have an elite player, the difference can be very significant when they land one. Rebuilding teams not challenging for the handfuls of top 100 guys who want rebuild every year is a *huge* mistake.

i disagree with both of you, one elite player in the right spot can easily be the difference between a championship contender and a favorite, or a favorite or a truly dominant team. the first elite guy especially on offense matters most, on a ppg basis, on more middling teams - just like shoe says. however, on a % to with the NT basis, which is IMO the thing we should be optimizing for, an elite player actually has the biggest impact on a great but not truly elite team. for example, a mid level / borderline top 25 type team, they may jump greatly all the way to around #10 with an elite player or something, but that might be an increase from 1% to 3-4% to win a title or similar. that same player if he fits just the right spot on the #1 team, he wouldn't ever triple their title odds, but he might increase their odds from 15% to 25% or 25% to 45%, which on an absolute basis dwarfs the other gain. so it sort of is all about the perspective i suppose.

Posted by thewizard17 on 8/29/2019 5:50:00 PM (view original):

Posted by shoe3 on 7/1/2019 10:01:00 PM (view original):
Insane no one challenged you on Hanson, who wants rebuild. Perfect opportunity for a nearby mid major or big 6 bottom-dweller to get a program changer. A lot of folks just aren’t trying very hard, apparently.

It may help them win a few games, but I've never seen one player make that big of a difference in this game.

I will say IRL you can have that one impact player make a huge difference. Just doesn't seem to work that way in HD.

i think a big part of this is the general perception of who the elite players are in this game is relatively poor, so a lot of folks get super excited about players that just genuinely are not that good. for example, people will be like omg look at this guy with his 90 ath and 85 lp and 92 per and in reality, the guy might not even add half the value of a 90 passing, 90 spd/per/bh pg who can simultaneously put up 20ppg while also being awesome at the 'increase fg% of your team mates' part of the PG which is massively important. similarly, a truly elite player with 72 stamina might add 25% less value than the same player with 92 stamina, but most folks don't calibrate for the incredible importance of stamina at the high end of the player spectrum.

give me 1 guy who is actually elite, on a mediocre team, and it will be a massive impact. same for an elite guy in the right spot on a great team. basically, a full half of my teams that i care about are 1 elite player away from being truly dominant, or not. its just about it being the right 1 elite player, a different elite player might have almost no impact.

really comes down to team building i guess, if the elite guy hits the spot that needs hitting, its a total game changer. if not, its not.

For anyone interested Williams just got drafted 2nd after his freshman year.

Posted by gillispie1 on 8/29/2019 8:34:00 PM (view original):

Posted by thewizard17 on 8/29/2019 5:50:00 PM (view original):

Posted by shoe3 on 7/1/2019 10:01:00 PM (view original):
Insane no one challenged you on Hanson, who wants rebuild. Perfect opportunity for a nearby mid major or big 6 bottom-dweller to get a program changer. A lot of folks just aren’t trying very hard, apparently.

It may help them win a few games, but I've never seen one player make that big of a difference in this game.

I will say IRL you can have that one impact player make a huge difference. Just doesn't seem to work that way in HD.

i think a big part of this is the general perception of who the elite players are in this game is relatively poor, so a lot of folks get super excited about players that just genuinely are not that good. for example, people will be like omg look at this guy with his 90 ath and 85 lp and 92 per and in reality, the guy might not even add half the value of a 90 passing, 90 spd/per/bh pg who can simultaneously put up 20ppg while also being awesome at the 'increase fg% of your team mates' part of the PG which is massively important. similarly, a truly elite player with 72 stamina might add 25% less value than the same player with 92 stamina, but most folks don't calibrate for the incredible importance of stamina at the high end of the player spectrum.

give me 1 guy who is actually elite, on a mediocre team, and it will be a massive impact. same for an elite guy in the right spot on a great team. basically, a full half of my teams that i care about are 1 elite player away from being truly dominant, or not. its just about it being the right 1 elite player, a different elite player might have almost no impact.

really comes down to team building i guess, if the elite guy hits the spot that needs hitting, its a total game changer. if not, its not.

I think this Freshmen was the link to my championship in Wooden a couple of seasons ago. He knew the O and D and my bench was really deep with JR's. Of course he was one and done after that but without him I don't think we close it out!

https://www.whatifsports.com/hd/PlayerHistory/Ratings.aspx?&pid=4253849

Posted by garmansouth on 9/4/2019 9:09:00 PM (view original):

Posted by gillispie1 on 8/29/2019 8:34:00 PM (view original):

Posted by thewizard17 on 8/29/2019 5:50:00 PM (view original):

Posted by shoe3 on 7/1/2019 10:01:00 PM (view original):
Insane no one challenged you on Hanson, who wants rebuild. Perfect opportunity for a nearby mid major or big 6 bottom-dweller to get a program changer. A lot of folks just aren’t trying very hard, apparently.

It may help them win a few games, but I've never seen one player make that big of a difference in this game.

I will say IRL you can have that one impact player make a huge difference. Just doesn't seem to work that way in HD.

i think a big part of this is the general perception of who the elite players are in this game is relatively poor, so a lot of folks get super excited about players that just genuinely are not that good. for example, people will be like omg look at this guy with his 90 ath and 85 lp and 92 per and in reality, the guy might not even add half the value of a 90 passing, 90 spd/per/bh pg who can simultaneously put up 20ppg while also being awesome at the 'increase fg% of your team mates' part of the PG which is massively important. similarly, a truly elite player with 72 stamina might add 25% less value than the same player with 92 stamina, but most folks don't calibrate for the incredible importance of stamina at the high end of the player spectrum.

give me 1 guy who is actually elite, on a mediocre team, and it will be a massive impact. same for an elite guy in the right spot on a great team. basically, a full half of my teams that i care about are 1 elite player away from being truly dominant, or not. its just about it being the right 1 elite player, a different elite player might have almost no impact.

really comes down to team building i guess, if the elite guy hits the spot that needs hitting, its a total game changer. if not, its not.

I think this Freshmen was the link to my championship in Wooden a couple of seasons ago. He knew the O and D and my bench was really deep with JR's. Of course he was one and done after that but without him I don't think we close it out!

https://www.whatifsports.com/hd/PlayerHistory/Ratings.aspx?&pid=4253849

Wow, he’s serious. Agree he was a huge part of your team.