Posted by bds9992 on 9/19/2019 3:00:00 PM (view original):
I don’t want to do this anymore, but let’s just say that’s it’s possible that some of the SIM’s logic was never discovered. I think some owners are good because they know what works for them, and build similar teams with a lot of the same players year after year. I think this is an element of it, but, I also don’t care enough to help anyone through their shock and disbelief. It’s all good.

I mean I have the receipts here... nobody in this league is using the same players over and over again. I have the frequency of each player by owner and "same players year after year" just simply isn't true. That's true in an open league but not a draft league.

Posted by bds9992 on 9/19/2019 3:00:00 PM (view original):
I don’t want to do this anymore, but let’s just say that’s it’s possible that some of the SIM’s logic was never discovered. I think some owners are good because they know what works for them, and build similar teams with a lot of the same players year after year. I think this is an element of it, but, I also don’t care enough to help anyone through their shock and disbelief. It’s all good.

This is going to sound harsh and I apologize in advance. I am not trying to make this about you but I have to address these two items:
- " some of the SIM’s logic was never discovered "
- " don’t care enough to help anyone through their shock and disbelief "

Maybe the issue here is that someone with a career losing record and no championships is trying to explain to some of the best owners in this game how things work and refusing to hear what they have learned through continued success.

it's not same players, it's same stat table modelling where same or similar players are helpful to achieve desired numbers

Posted by copernicus on 9/19/2019 5:07:00 PM (view original):
it's not same players, it's same stat table modelling where same or similar players are helpful to achieve desired numbers

Yeah this is true... but this is also a simulation engine where you select players based on their statistical output. So there really isn't any other way this would work.

of course, and what a successful owner should be tweaking is the stat table model - meaning playing with assumptions about the right balance of Orb/Drb% or what is enough as% or how much efg v usg can I cram into a lower cap league etc

Posted by copernicus on 9/19/2019 5:10:00 PM (view original):
of course, and what a successful owner should be tweaking is the stat table model

Ah I get the point you are making. This is correct.

you should check out Tao te Ching, robusk. :)

I'll post the frequency numbers after the draft is done in case anyone is interested.

Posted by copernicus on 9/19/2019 5:07:00 PM (view original):
it's not same players, it's same stat table modelling where same or similar players are helpful to achieve desired numbers

I don't use stat table modeling, but that's why robusk is better at this than I am ;)

Posted by tarheel1991 on 9/19/2019 6:41:00 PM (view original):

Posted by copernicus on 9/19/2019 5:07:00 PM (view original):
it's not same players, it's same stat table modelling where same or similar players are helpful to achieve desired numbers

I don't use stat table modeling, but that's why robusk is better at this than I am ;)

I mean that is a word salad but I got the sentiment. Less modeling and more just aggregating and restructuring what is already out there.

And who just beat who in the finals?

Posted by robusk on 9/19/2019 5:34:00 PM (view original):
I'll post the frequency numbers after the draft is done in case anyone is interested.

I’m interested.

Personally I like to try different strategies and use different players. There is obviously a lower boundary of usage, cReb, Ast etc to be truly competitive but a lot of different ways to be successful.

Posted by robusk on 9/19/2019 6:58:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tarheel1991 on 9/19/2019 6:41:00 PM (view original):

Posted by copernicus on 9/19/2019 5:07:00 PM (view original):
it's not same players, it's same stat table modelling where same or similar players are helpful to achieve desired numbers

I don't use stat table modeling, but that's why robusk is better at this than I am ;)

I mean that is a word salad but I got the sentiment. Less modeling and more just aggregating and restructuring what is already out there.

And who just beat who in the finals?

We both know I got lucky. Still can’t believe I beat ben’s Giannis team.

at the turn I feel like I have one spot where (with confidence) it's down to three guys and then another spot where I have no idea what the hell I'm going to do and I feel like that could ruin everything

also the aggregating/restructuring etc is your model whether articulated or not - you do have an idea of what looks right or better or what you're aiming for or however you want to put it - that's the 'model'