They are updated now. Thanks!

Does anyone know where the links to download the spreadsheets are?

I see it in the Draft Center notes at the bottom that appear when you are doing a search. One link for hitters, one for pitchers. I did download one to check and found the 2019 players are in it.

Not that I know what to do with it now, but I do know where to find it. I think we need a thread on how to use it efficiently.

Anybody else notice that Freddy Galvis is an A- fielder in the NL and a B fielder in the AL? While I understand why everything is normalized by league, this makes me seriously wonder if defense should be normalized by the full available "world" of players in any given season. Or maybe even with a denominator that uses something like a 5-year moving average. The idea is supposed to be to normalize for differences between rules, equipment, and how official scorers tend to view plays. But right now, as far as fielding is concerned, the AL and NL are playing under the same rules, the umpires have been shared for 20 years now, and presumably the official scorers are no more consistent with others in their own league than the other league. When the numbers are off by that much - not 1 but 2 1/3 letter grades, meaning there is at minimum more than a full 1/3 grade of difference between the leagues - it raises a red flag for me. In this case it's almost certainly statistical variance from insufficiently large samples and inequitable distribution of talent resulting in the difference. Those are exactly the things we're trying to normalize out of play, but it looks like now we're normalizing them in.

EDIT: The difference is in range, not fielding. But this is generally irrelevant to the point.

Posted by dahsdebater on 10/15/2019 6:02:00 PM (view original):
Anybody else notice that Freddy Galvis is an A- fielder in the NL and a B fielder in the AL? While I understand why everything is normalized by league, this makes me seriously wonder if defense should be normalized by the full available "world" of players in any given season. Or maybe even with a denominator that uses something like a 5-year moving average. The idea is supposed to be to normalize for differences between rules, equipment, and how official scorers tend to view plays. But right now, as far as fielding is concerned, the AL and NL are playing under the same rules, the umpires have been shared for 20 years now, and presumably the official scorers are no more consistent with others in their own league than the other league. When the numbers are off by that much - not 1 but 2 1/3 letter grades, meaning there is at minimum more than a full 1/3 grade of difference between the leagues - it raises a red flag for me. In this case it's almost certainly statistical variance from insufficiently large samples and inequitable distribution of talent resulting in the difference. Those are exactly the things we're trying to normalize out of play, but it looks like now we're normalizing them in.

EDIT: The difference is in range, not fielding. But this is generally irrelevant to the point.

Go look at Manny Machado's partial and combined grades for 2018 and let me know if you can understand what's happening there. His Dodger partial has D- range and his Orioles partial is B, but his combined is better for the Dodgers (B) than it is for the Orioles (C-). How is that possible?

Other players I notice with similar backwards combined ratings include Mike Moustakas and John Jay. So I'm assuming it's like that for anyone who played in both leagues. I'm seeing it similarly in 2019. Not sure if this is new or wrong or what.

Posted by redcped on 10/15/2019 5:45:00 PM (view original):
I see it in the Draft Center notes at the bottom that appear when you are doing a search. One link for hitters, one for pitchers. I did download one to check and found the 2019 players are in it.

Not that I know what to do with it now, but I do know where to find it. I think we need a thread on how to use it efficiently.

Good idea. If I ever get time I will create one

Posted by redcped on 10/15/2019 5:45:00 PM (view original):
I see it in the Draft Center notes at the bottom that appear when you are doing a search. One link for hitters, one for pitchers. I did download one to check and found the 2019 players are in it.

Not that I know what to do with it now, but I do know where to find it. I think we need a thread on how to use it efficiently.

Thanks redcped