Just the facts Topic

Posted by cccp1014 on 10/30/2019 11:00:00 AM (view original):
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Posted by bad_luck on 10/30/2019 10:38:00 AM (view original):
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Posted by cccp1014 on 10/30/2019 9:28:00 AM (view original):
I actually agree with bad luck. Elections have consequences. The GOP is getting everything they deserve but he missed the bigger picture, not surprising given his lack of intellect. The people need to know the truth. The political games have become super partisan and annoying. Party over country. Ridiculous.
The people need to know the truth. The best way for Congress to get the truth is through closed hearings. That way witnesses can’t coordinate their testimony and members are less likely to grandstand.

Eventually, the hearings will becomes public and you’ll get the full rundown of all of Trump’s crimes.

BTW, do you think it’s ok for the President to hold up aid (aid that has been appropriated by Congress and signed into law by the President) in order to extract a personal benefit from the country receiving aid?
No, I do not. Depending on what the "aid" is and what the "personal benefit" is. But big picture, I 100% absolutely agree with you. It is suspicious when it comes to Hunter Biden and the monies he received from Ukraine and China but I am also sure it has happened 1000s of times to other kids of politicians. Par for the course.
No need for quotes around aid. Congress appropriated defense aid to Ukraine. Trump signed it into law.

Then Trump held up the aid. That alone is illegal but when paired with the reason for delaying the aid—to pressure Ukraine to do something to benefit Trump’s re-election campaign—we get a very real problem.

This is a very straightforward criminal act that *should* result in resignation or impeachment and removal. But we live in bizarro world now and that likely won’t happen.

Silver lining, this impeachment process isn’t helping Trump like all the retarded pundits predicted.
I am sure there is a counterargument with him being the Commander in Chief, blah blah blah. Everything has become so partisan that I do not even care anymore. If both parties want to be ******** and make the political realm like the WWE then so be it. I am looking forward to the Trump vs. Warren debates. It will at least be entertaining. Obama and Romney were boring.
Not quite sure where in the constitution it says the Commander in Chief can hijack congress's power of the purse. Can you point that out please?
I just said I don't care anymore. I could argue this further but I am not going to because I don't care. You're also a partisan hack and a loser. Having conversations with you on any topic kills more brain cells than alcohol. Forget politics, you're just an *******.
and you're not partisan? We are all partisan to some extant. You're also an *******. Say what you want about Taint...at least he's not a Red Sox fan! LOL
10/30/2019 3:41 PM
I'll explain my ad hominems. Neither bad luck, Taint nor tangplay come here for true "debates" they come here to spread their ideology and insult those who disagree with them. bad luck "Anyone who voted for Trump is an idiot". Why would I ever be civil to someone like that? Same bad luck who believes that biological males should be allowed to compete in sports vs. biological females because they are sick and think they are females. Crazy. tangplay is a socialist. Who in their right mind would debate a socialist? Taint just trolls and provokes.

Bob and I are civil because while we disagree I know that Bob is sane. all3 is sane. You three are not sane and do not deserve civility.
10/30/2019 3:42 PM
Posted by wylie715 on 10/30/2019 3:42:00 PM (view original):
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Posted by The Taint on 10/30/2019 10:44:00 AM (view original):
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Posted by bad_luck on 10/30/2019 10:38:00 AM (view original):
Posted by cccp1014 on 10/30/2019 10:24:00 AM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 10/30/2019 9:49:00 AM (view original):
Posted by cccp1014 on 10/30/2019 9:28:00 AM (view original):
I actually agree with bad luck. Elections have consequences. The GOP is getting everything they deserve but he missed the bigger picture, not surprising given his lack of intellect. The people need to know the truth. The political games have become super partisan and annoying. Party over country. Ridiculous.
The people need to know the truth. The best way for Congress to get the truth is through closed hearings. That way witnesses can’t coordinate their testimony and members are less likely to grandstand.

Eventually, the hearings will becomes public and you’ll get the full rundown of all of Trump’s crimes.

BTW, do you think it’s ok for the President to hold up aid (aid that has been appropriated by Congress and signed into law by the President) in order to extract a personal benefit from the country receiving aid?
No, I do not. Depending on what the "aid" is and what the "personal benefit" is. But big picture, I 100% absolutely agree with you. It is suspicious when it comes to Hunter Biden and the monies he received from Ukraine and China but I am also sure it has happened 1000s of times to other kids of politicians. Par for the course.
No need for quotes around aid. Congress appropriated defense aid to Ukraine. Trump signed it into law.

Then Trump held up the aid. That alone is illegal but when paired with the reason for delaying the aid—to pressure Ukraine to do something to benefit Trump’s re-election campaign—we get a very real problem.

This is a very straightforward criminal act that *should* result in resignation or impeachment and removal. But we live in bizarro world now and that likely won’t happen.

Silver lining, this impeachment process isn’t helping Trump like all the retarded pundits predicted.
I am sure there is a counterargument with him being the Commander in Chief, blah blah blah. Everything has become so partisan that I do not even care anymore. If both parties want to be ******** and make the political realm like the WWE then so be it. I am looking forward to the Trump vs. Warren debates. It will at least be entertaining. Obama and Romney were boring.
Not quite sure where in the constitution it says the Commander in Chief can hijack congress's power of the purse. Can you point that out please?
I just said I don't care anymore. I could argue this further but I am not going to because I don't care. You're also a partisan hack and a loser. Having conversations with you on any topic kills more brain cells than alcohol. Forget politics, you're just an *******.
and you're not partisan? We are all partisan to some extant. You're also an *******. Say what you want about Taint...at least he's not a Red Sox fan! LOL
Taint is a Mariners fan aka irrelevant.
10/30/2019 3:43 PM
at least he is not a REd Sox fan aka an *******.
10/30/2019 3:45 PM
Posted by cccp1014 on 10/30/2019 3:44:00 PM (view original):
I'll explain my ad hominems. Neither bad luck, Taint nor tangplay come here for true "debates" they come here to spread their ideology and insult those who disagree with them. bad luck "Anyone who voted for Trump is an idiot". Why would I ever be civil to someone like that? Same bad luck who believes that biological males should be allowed to compete in sports vs. biological females because they are sick and think they are females. Crazy. tangplay is a socialist. Who in their right mind would debate a socialist? Taint just trolls and provokes.

Bob and I are civil because while we disagree I know that Bob is sane. all3 is sane. You three are not sane and do not deserve civility.
You have no right to complain about bad luck saying "anyone who voted for Trump is an idiot" statement. Your "any Jew who votes Democrat is a traitor" statement is just as stupid.
And you don't come here to spread your ideology?You don't insult anyone who disagrees with you? You've insulted me, bad luck, tangplay, Taint and many more. I don't think I've ever seen you insult all3, DougOut or anyone else who agrees with you.
You sir, are a hypocrite...and a Red Sox fan.
10/30/2019 3:48 PM
LOL. Taint SHOULD get extra points for being a Mariner fan!! C'mon Man! That takes balls for sure. They ain't been any good since Lou Piniella was managing have they? They're so bad (How bad are they Bob?) that they hired that Melvin Bob dude to manage even AFTER He'd proved to everyone he couldn't figure out when to remove a pitcher IF'N his life depended on it, here in AZ. He still up there in Seattle? If so, that explains all of it.
10/30/2019 3:51 PM
Posted by wylie715 on 10/30/2019 3:48:00 PM (view original):
Posted by cccp1014 on 10/30/2019 3:44:00 PM (view original):
I'll explain my ad hominems. Neither bad luck, Taint nor tangplay come here for true "debates" they come here to spread their ideology and insult those who disagree with them. bad luck "Anyone who voted for Trump is an idiot". Why would I ever be civil to someone like that? Same bad luck who believes that biological males should be allowed to compete in sports vs. biological females because they are sick and think they are females. Crazy. tangplay is a socialist. Who in their right mind would debate a socialist? Taint just trolls and provokes.

Bob and I are civil because while we disagree I know that Bob is sane. all3 is sane. You three are not sane and do not deserve civility.
You have no right to complain about bad luck saying "anyone who voted for Trump is an idiot" statement. Your "any Jew who votes Democrat is a traitor" statement is just as stupid.
And you don't come here to spread your ideology?You don't insult anyone who disagrees with you? You've insulted me, bad luck, tangplay, Taint and many more. I don't think I've ever seen you insult all3, DougOut or anyone else who agrees with you.
You sir, are a hypocrite...and a Red Sox fan.
I don't really converse with Doug. I only insult you because you get so easily triggered. You're not really a traitor. tang, BL and Taint get everything they deserve. Why are you so bitter all time? Is it because bad luck said you hide in bushes like a stalker? You didn't even defend yourself. Sad.
10/30/2019 3:54 PM
On the name-calling stuff. My wife regularly calls me an *******. Too regularly actually. But, she also loves me. Been there for over 35 years. So names just really don't mean much in the big picture. Boris is from New England. Those folks are just verbally challenged. Always have been. Cain't even pronounce quite a few words correctly. Probably need to read some western literature. It broadens the vocabulary of us readers. We larn words like reckon and how to use it properly. Also, dad gummit, prit near, and my particular favorite **** me to tears.

That one's especially important for a feller to know when to use.
Never, and I mean NEVER, say that and mean it to ol' Black Rose. You'll likely lose your eyeballs.
Pop out like that blackhead you've been workin on for an hour.
Bam. Left with a smokin' hole.
10/30/2019 3:59 PM
Posted by laramiebob on 10/30/2019 3:51:00 PM (view original):
LOL. Taint SHOULD get extra points for being a Mariner fan!! C'mon Man! That takes balls for sure. They ain't been any good since Lou Piniella was managing have they? They're so bad (How bad are they Bob?) that they hired that Melvin Bob dude to manage even AFTER He'd proved to everyone he couldn't figure out when to remove a pitcher IF'N his life depended on it, here in AZ. He still up there in Seattle? If so, that explains all of it.
Right? Raider fan to boot. Been a dark place for years. I am a huge warriors fan also, so I’ve had that to fall back on.
10/30/2019 4:12 PM
Posted by wylie715 on 10/30/2019 3:45:00 PM (view original):
at least he is not a REd Sox fan aka an *******.
True story there. Not a front runner like 95 percent of the Bahston fan base.
10/30/2019 4:14 PM
Posted by cccp1014 on 10/30/2019 3:44:00 PM (view original):
I'll explain my ad hominems. Neither bad luck, Taint nor tangplay come here for true "debates" they come here to spread their ideology and insult those who disagree with them. bad luck "Anyone who voted for Trump is an idiot". Why would I ever be civil to someone like that? Same bad luck who believes that biological males should be allowed to compete in sports vs. biological females because they are sick and think they are females. Crazy. tangplay is a socialist. Who in their right mind would debate a socialist? Taint just trolls and provokes.

Bob and I are civil because while we disagree I know that Bob is sane. all3 is sane. You three are not sane and do not deserve civility.
You’re just so easy to trigger. You remind me of my little sister. I bet you’re vegan.
10/30/2019 4:16 PM
Posted by cccp1014 on 10/30/2019 3:54:00 PM (view original):
Posted by wylie715 on 10/30/2019 3:48:00 PM (view original):
Posted by cccp1014 on 10/30/2019 3:44:00 PM (view original):
I'll explain my ad hominems. Neither bad luck, Taint nor tangplay come here for true "debates" they come here to spread their ideology and insult those who disagree with them. bad luck "Anyone who voted for Trump is an idiot". Why would I ever be civil to someone like that? Same bad luck who believes that biological males should be allowed to compete in sports vs. biological females because they are sick and think they are females. Crazy. tangplay is a socialist. Who in their right mind would debate a socialist? Taint just trolls and provokes.

Bob and I are civil because while we disagree I know that Bob is sane. all3 is sane. You three are not sane and do not deserve civility.
You have no right to complain about bad luck saying "anyone who voted for Trump is an idiot" statement. Your "any Jew who votes Democrat is a traitor" statement is just as stupid.
And you don't come here to spread your ideology?You don't insult anyone who disagrees with you? You've insulted me, bad luck, tangplay, Taint and many more. I don't think I've ever seen you insult all3, DougOut or anyone else who agrees with you.
You sir, are a hypocrite...and a Red Sox fan.
I don't really converse with Doug. I only insult you because you get so easily triggered. You're not really a traitor. tang, BL and Taint get everything they deserve. Why are you so bitter all time? Is it because bad luck said you hide in bushes like a stalker? You didn't even defend yourself. Sad.
I'm not bitter. I also don't get triggered when you insult me. I could care less what you say or think about me. Just don't accuse others of things that you do all the time yourself. That is what makes you a hypocrite. As for what makes you a Red Sox fan, I'm guessing it is some kind of mental imbalance.
According to you bad luck is insane. Why should I defend myself against what he says? I don't care what he says or thinks about me either.
10/30/2019 4:17 PM
Posted by The Taint on 10/30/2019 4:16:00 PM (view original):
Posted by cccp1014 on 10/30/2019 3:44:00 PM (view original):
I'll explain my ad hominems. Neither bad luck, Taint nor tangplay come here for true "debates" they come here to spread their ideology and insult those who disagree with them. bad luck "Anyone who voted for Trump is an idiot". Why would I ever be civil to someone like that? Same bad luck who believes that biological males should be allowed to compete in sports vs. biological females because they are sick and think they are females. Crazy. tangplay is a socialist. Who in their right mind would debate a socialist? Taint just trolls and provokes.

Bob and I are civil because while we disagree I know that Bob is sane. all3 is sane. You three are not sane and do not deserve civility.
You’re just so easy to trigger. You remind me of my little sister. I bet you’re vegan.
No, but he has two friends who are vegans, and they say......
10/30/2019 4:18 PM
Posted by The Taint on 10/30/2019 4:16:00 PM (view original):
Posted by cccp1014 on 10/30/2019 3:44:00 PM (view original):
I'll explain my ad hominems. Neither bad luck, Taint nor tangplay come here for true "debates" they come here to spread their ideology and insult those who disagree with them. bad luck "Anyone who voted for Trump is an idiot". Why would I ever be civil to someone like that? Same bad luck who believes that biological males should be allowed to compete in sports vs. biological females because they are sick and think they are females. Crazy. tangplay is a socialist. Who in their right mind would debate a socialist? Taint just trolls and provokes.

Bob and I are civil because while we disagree I know that Bob is sane. all3 is sane. You three are not sane and do not deserve civility.
You’re just so easy to trigger. You remind me of my little sister. I bet you’re vegan.
You'd lose that bet. Was that supposed to be an insult? "Easy to trigger"? LMAO.
10/30/2019 4:19 PM
Posted by wylie715 on 10/30/2019 4:18:00 PM (view original):
Posted by cccp1014 on 10/30/2019 3:54:00 PM (view original):
Posted by wylie715 on 10/30/2019 3:48:00 PM (view original):
Posted by cccp1014 on 10/30/2019 3:44:00 PM (view original):
I'll explain my ad hominems. Neither bad luck, Taint nor tangplay come here for true "debates" they come here to spread their ideology and insult those who disagree with them. bad luck "Anyone who voted for Trump is an idiot". Why would I ever be civil to someone like that? Same bad luck who believes that biological males should be allowed to compete in sports vs. biological females because they are sick and think they are females. Crazy. tangplay is a socialist. Who in their right mind would debate a socialist? Taint just trolls and provokes.

Bob and I are civil because while we disagree I know that Bob is sane. all3 is sane. You three are not sane and do not deserve civility.
You have no right to complain about bad luck saying "anyone who voted for Trump is an idiot" statement. Your "any Jew who votes Democrat is a traitor" statement is just as stupid.
And you don't come here to spread your ideology?You don't insult anyone who disagrees with you? You've insulted me, bad luck, tangplay, Taint and many more. I don't think I've ever seen you insult all3, DougOut or anyone else who agrees with you.
You sir, are a hypocrite...and a Red Sox fan.
I don't really converse with Doug. I only insult you because you get so easily triggered. You're not really a traitor. tang, BL and Taint get everything they deserve. Why are you so bitter all time? Is it because bad luck said you hide in bushes like a stalker? You didn't even defend yourself. Sad.
I'm not bitter. I also don't get triggered when you insult me. I could care less what you say or think about me. Just don't accuse others of things that you do all the time yourself. That is what makes you a hypocrite. As for what makes you a Red Sox fan, I'm guessing it is some kind of mental imbalance.
According to you bad luck is insane. Why should I defend myself against what he says? I don't care what he says or thinks about me either.
I grew up 10 min from Fenway Park. Of course I am a Sox fan! Taint is a bandwagon Warriors fan.
10/30/2019 4:20 PM
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