The Ugly and the Uglier (Roster Draft Thread) Topic

League Number: MLB126419

All 16 rosters have been submitted and verified and can be seen below:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1GiJKEwF9OnnCahm-8KyYVyyRyLpiO0S2g78YkzIziSM/edit?usp=sharing

EDIT: The spreadsheet has been updated to start the Division Alignment Draft. As a reminder, the top 4 teams in point standings (1 point for every win you achieve with the roster you have and 1 point for every loss the roster you created inflicts on its manager) will make the playoffs (because this is a 16 team league) regardless of conference. However, which teams you play will probably have a big impact on the number of wins you get.

Roster Draft: The draft order will be determined randomly. Each owner has a choice: they can assign someone to manage their roster, they can choose to manage another owner's roster, or they can assign an owner other than him or herself to manage another designated owner's roster (e.g. I assign ozomatli to manage brianjw's roster).

Divison alignment Draft: (Takes place after the Roster Draft is complete) The four owners drafting last in the Roster Draft will each be placed into their own divisions, and get to determine the rest of the division alignment through a three round serpentine draft (1-4, 4-1, and 1-4). The last pick in the roster draft will get the first pick in R1, the second to last pick in the roster draft will get the second pick in R1, and so on. In each round, an owner can choose to put someone in their own division, or into someone else's division, but only one owner can be added to a division in any given round. The owners with the first two picks in the Division alignment draft will be in the NL and the other two will be in the AL.

Courtesy of Jtpsops (after completion of the draft):

NL East
vilefileman (schwarze's roster)
je3rd (CLWECW’s roster)
toysboys (je3rd's roster)
Buddhagamer (Disco Dogs roster)

NL West
schwarze (barracuda3's roster)
normy17 (Jtpsops' roster)
CLWECW (fatguyrd's roster)
reddtrain (BullMoose's roster)

AL East
justinlee_24 (redcped's roster)
fatguyrd (DoctorKz's roster)
BullMoose (Normy 17's roster)
barracuda3 (toysboys' roster)

AL West
Jtpsops (justinlee_24's roster)
DoctorKz (vilefileman's roster)
Disco Dogs (reddtrain's roster)
redcped (buddhagamer's roster)
11/27/2019 3:19 PM (edited)
Rosters Available (Bold = Taken)

justinlee_24
DoctorKz
barracuda3
schwarze
reddtrain
je3rd
redcped
fatguyrd
normy17
Jtspops
vilefileman
CLWECW
buddhagamer
BullMoose
Disco Dogs
toysboys

Draft Order is:

1. CLWECW (picked fatguyrd's roster)
2. toysboys (picked je3rd's roster)
3. Disco Dogs (picked reddtrain's roster)
4. BullMoose (picked normy17's roster)
5. reddtrain (picked BullMoose's roster)
6. redcped (picked buddhagamer's roster)
7. buddhagamer (picked Disco Dog's roster)
8. normy17 (picked Jtspops's roster)
9. DoctorKz (picked vilefileman's roster)
10. fatguyrd (picked DoctorKz's roster)
11. je3rd (picked CLWECW's roster)
12. barracuda3 (picked toysboys's roster)
13. Jtspops (picked justinlee_24's roster)
14. justinlee_24 (picked redcped's roster)
15. schwarze (automatically winds up with barracuda3's roster)
16. vilefileman (automatically winds up with schwarze's roster)
11/26/2019 2:18 PM (edited)
I have not looked at the rosters for others, but mine is legal based on players being rated at secondary positions. Below is the breakdown. As per the rules, each player is counted against only one position, each position has rated players totaling a minimum of 600 PA's, and the total team PA's, IP's, and $$ are within the parameters.

1B 2007 Yadier Molina 396 $3,383,096
1B 1924 Ivey Wingo 226 $2,399,590
TOTAL 622

2B 2000 Brad Ausmus 604 $5,003,267
TOTAL 604

3B 2001 Jason Larue 403 $3,769,223
3B 2016 Bryan Holaday 94 $1,513,637
3B 1996 Steve Decker 171 $1,799,992
TOTAL 668

C 2005 Toby Hall 463 $3,507,871
C 1964 Jesse Gonder 374 $3,018,021
TOTAL 837

OF 1990 Matt Nokes 118 $1,569,728
OF 1924 Jimmie Wilson 327 $2,906,954
OF 1970 Jim French 206 $1,895,898
OF 1986 Charlie Moore 265 $2,730,523
OF 1907 Admiral Schlei 298 $2,773,471
OF 1962 Chris Cannizzaro 158 $1,673,234
OF 1983 Bob Brenly 323 $2,775,776
OF 1913 Ed Sweeney 435 $3,070,920
OF 1887 Tom Daly 373 $2,896,367
TOTAL 2503

SS 1886 King Kelly 698 $16,803,648
TOTAL 698

Hitter Total 5932 $63,491,216


SP 1895 Tom Parrott 329 $7,704,435
SP/RP 1894 Willie McGill 256 $6,461,542
SP/RP 1894 Bert Inks 241 $5,349,331
SP/RP 1947 Bob Lemon 177 $5,603,322
SP/RP 1937 Lynn Nelson 125 $3,047,330
SP/RP 1886 Steve Toole 123 $3,870,556
SP/RP 1951 Tommy Byrne 152 $3,506,562
TOTAL 1403 $35,543,078


Grand Total $99,034,294
11/23/2019 2:04 PM
Disco Dogs:

I've sent you a sitemail regarding Barracudas roster.

Keep in mind, a player only has to have ratings at a position to be eligible to be counted towards the PA available at a position.

For example, take 1901 Tom Leahy who is on one of those rosters. His main position is C, so that's what he shows up as on the spreadsheet.

However, he also plays 2B, SS and OF which means he could be counted as PA towards those other positions (up to his WIS PA - he doesn't get to simultaneously count as PA towards all positions) if the team already has sufficient PA at C.

Hopefully, this helps clear up your confusion.
11/23/2019 2:15 PM (edited)
Hmm maybe I see now...guess I totally misunderstood that line in the rules, I’ll erase all those posts, thx for clearing things up.
OK BRING ON THE DRAFT ORDER LOL
11/23/2019 2:15 PM (edited)
Sorry guys, just saw this request. . . . here you go:

Here is your sequence:

14
9
12
15
5
11
6
10
8
13
16
1
7
4
3
2

Timestamp: 2019-11-24 05:10:40 UTC

11/24/2019 12:11 AM
thanks Nebhusker.

Draft Order is:

1. CLWECW
2. toysboys
3. Disco Dogs
4. BullMoose
5. reddtrain
6. redcped
7. buddhagamer
8. normy17
9. DoctorKz
10. fatguyrd
11. je3rd
12. barracuda3
13. Jtspops
14. justinlee_24
15. schwarze
16. vilefileman
11/24/2019 12:31 AM
The Division Alignment Draft will begin once the Roster Draft has ended. vilefileman, schwarze, justinlee_24 and Jtspops are the participants in that draft. vilefileman will have the first pick there.

I will create the league once I have selected my roster and everyone will be able to enter their teams at that time (no need to wait for the Division Alignment Draft to finish).
11/24/2019 2:59 AM (edited)
I went nd only saw one team.
11/24/2019 2:51 AM
Posted by BullMoose on 11/24/2019 2:51:00 AM (view original):
I went nd only saw one team.
Go and open the spreadsheet again. Look at the bottom (there will be a bunch of tabs, each containing one roster). There should be 16 tabs in total (use the arrows at the bottom to scroll through the tabs).
11/24/2019 2:55 AM
Draft process question, just to clarify:

" Each owner has a choice: they can assign someone to manage their roster, they can choose to manage another owner's roster, or they can assign an owner other than him or herself to manage another designated owner's roster (e.g. I assign ozomatli to manage brianjw's roster)."

Once an owner has someone else's roster assigned to them, am I right they no longer have the chance to pick a different roster to manage? Essentially, that part of the choice is taken away from you, right? And you'd have to just assign a roster to someone else at your turn?
11/24/2019 11:14 AM
Posted by redcped on 11/24/2019 11:14:00 AM (view original):
Draft process question, just to clarify:

" Each owner has a choice: they can assign someone to manage their roster, they can choose to manage another owner's roster, or they can assign an owner other than him or herself to manage another designated owner's roster (e.g. I assign ozomatli to manage brianjw's roster)."

Once an owner has someone else's roster assigned to them, am I right they no longer have the chance to pick a different roster to manage? Essentially, that part of the choice is taken away from you, right? And you'd have to just assign a roster to someone else at your turn?
This is correct. However, if Owner A assigns a roster to Owner B, Owner A will also get assigned a roster (since he/she did not use his or her pick to pick a roster).
11/24/2019 12:44 PM
Ok, generally, everyone did a good job of putting together rosters that will be tough to win with. Some teams have hitting but horrific pitching, and others have pitching but may never score a run.

After debating the pros and cons repeatedly, I've decided to go right up the middle with a team that I believe is mediocre on both sides but not horrible on either.

I'll take fatguyrd's roster.
11/24/2019 2:29 PM
I'll take je3rd's roster which actually seems pretty good. Good defense, balanced rotation and bullpen.

It looks like ppl had the same idea to draft catchers out of position but this is not one of those rosters.
11/24/2019 7:09 PM (edited)
I’m going to try redtrain’s roster
11/24/2019 9:06 PM
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