Relief pitcher fatigue question Topic

Recently I played consecutive games against a reliever who only threw 52 real life innings....yet he was able to get his 24th and 25th saves in his back to back appearances in the league I am in ...In both games he entered the game at 100% fatigue....I have never been able to use relievers at 100% percent for consecutive games....no matter how few pitches they throw in the first game, they never get 100% fatigue in the next game....what am I missing as far as settings ,etc, go?
12/18/2019 8:40 PM
His ability to stay fresh is most likely due to his actual IP/G, or more correctly his actual pitches per appearance. He probably has a high number, meaning he only pitched in a handful of games to accumulate those 52 innings. Is why many owners tend to draft low inning starters to use in bullpen duty...that and they can be used in high leverage spot starts, such as playoff games. Hint
12/18/2019 10:17 PM (edited)
He is likely on a 10-15 pitch count limit, to keep from getting tuckered out...used that way you could get 60+ appearances out of him.

Get in the habit of adding IP/G to your search criteria when drafting pitchers. You can also weed out those starters that can't go deep into games. I usually avoid those under 6, perhaps 7 if my pen is gonna be thin. Happy hunting...
12/18/2019 10:19 PM (edited)
A 240 inning starter that can only average 5-6 innings per outing is gonna be a taxman on your pen, and is probably overpriced. With the 10% cushion built in he should be giving you around 270 innings without fatigue issues.

And on the subject of price, try to shop with a $/IP in mind for your budget. 2000 Pedro rocks, but in an $80M league he wipes out too much of your budget...food for thought.

Consider relief pitchers that can only go 1 inning to be a luxury. Look for more bang for your buck. And do the math.

How much are you gonna spend on pitching? How many innings do you need? Base it on a reasonable $/IP. Sure, you can splurge a bit on an ace, or top 2, but have a number in mind. $32000/IP? $35000/IP? Depending on the cap, a ballpark number ain't rocket science...
12/18/2019 10:18 PM (edited)
1902 Bernhard is one of the most widely used pitchers. Is because he is a bargain...shop and compare.

My fav cheap pen guy is 1901 Mike O'Neill. Lotta bang for $1.3M...
12/18/2019 10:27 PM
I still do not understand how ANY reliever can make back to back appearances at 100% percent fatigue....it NEVER happens with my relievers no matter how few pitches they throw in the first appearance of back to back.... no matter how few/ many IP/G they have.
12/18/2019 10:40 PM
This is more for the newbies but I will throw it in here as well...

The draft center search in advanced mode allows you to put several criteria in there at one time. Use it to your advantage.

Load it up with IP/162, IP/G, ERC#, HR/9#, $/IP as well as salary range for a single search. Find and use those bargains to your advantage. You can spend less, get more, and leave more meat on the bone for your offense...
12/18/2019 10:43 PM
A guy with 8 or 9 innings per appearance will hold up quite well with regular work. Later in the season fatigue ain't a big deal if he isn't on pace to exceed his real life numbers...

I am not talking about your usage of him when I mention his IP/G. This is about his actual usage, his real life numbers.

A guy with 52 IP/162 that only pitched in 8 games has a IP/G of more than 6. In limited use you could perhaps get 85-90 pitches from him before he would need significant time to recover. He could be drafted to be stashed to start 6-8 high leverage games, theoretically...
12/18/2019 11:14 PM (edited)
Look at it this way too...

On Opening Day, a starting pitcher that goes 5 innings is roughly on pace for 800 innings, based on his per game usage. 162×5, hence his needing several games to get back near 100%.

Later in the season, fatigue is much less likely if overuse up to that point is avoided...
12/18/2019 10:50 PM
Go into the draft center, pull up 52 IP/162 pitchers based on ERC# and IP/G. Henry and Falkenberg head the list. Henry is 1.41 IP/G, Falkenberg 6.86.

Henry will always be more affected by fatigue than Falkeberg, given similar workloads...
12/18/2019 11:00 PM
Elbirdo posted far more detailed analysis on fatigue, which can be found in Contrarian23's pinned threads here in the simleague forums...

There you can find information on formulas of how to determine how many pitches you will need to get you through the season, theoretically. ..*DISCLAIMER- your results may vary.
12/18/2019 11:18 PM (edited)
Hey beachbum, if you think that's bad, check out this thread from seven years ago!



12/18/2019 11:06 PM
The pitcher for the opponent that I am talking about has an IP of 1.41 IP/G.....I just used a reliever with a much higher IP 0f 1.71, he pitched just 1/3 of an inning (only 7 pitches) and his fatigue for his next appearance is already DOWN to 97%.....how did his 1.41 guy get 100% back to back?

likeI said , I NEVER see a reliever get 100% fatigue for the second of a back to back...and don’t understand how some others can do it..

many of the comments so far have been about starters....I’m talking about RELIEVERS
12/18/2019 11:19 PM (edited)
Ok, up to that point of the season, where is that 1.41 pitcher at as far as appearances and innings pitched? Underused a bit? If not, perhaps is a bit of an outlier...
12/18/2019 11:20 PM
A general rule of thumb is that you draft mostly low IP/G relievers, you run the risk of fatigue issues if your starters struggle to eat innings. High IP/G relievers are a better value with other numbers equal.
12/18/2019 11:23 PM
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