All3 got red lined for resorting to BS in his post!

However, I will admit that I'm not sure I see anything that Trump HIMSELF has done that has actually improved the economy.
Time will tell.
I'm willing to be patient enough to determine HOW his policies work out before dismissing his actions as irrelevant.
None the less, that promise He made to lower the National debt has sure been a lie!
He's increased it enormously!
Funny thing is the Repubs. have all the sudden stopped worrying about the Nat'l Debt.
Bet it would be a major talking point IF there was a Dem. in the WH!

Such is the hypocrisy in American politics anymore.

Barack Obama (2009-2017): Special Mention

President Obama created 8.9 million jobs by the end of December 2016, a 6.2 percent increase. There were 152.3 million people employed at the end of his term. That's compared to 143.4 million working at the end of the Bush administration.

Please click on the blue hi light for the full story. Obama had 8 years. Trump just 3. He has 5 more years to create 1.5 million jobs to equal Obama.

TRY typing JOBS CREATED BY PRESIDENT or JOBS CREATED BY YEAR.

Methodology

These numbers are taken from the household survey data collected by the Bureau of Labor Statistics.?? It counts the total number of people employed.?? That includes people who are self-employed, private household workers, and those who are temporarily on unpaid leave.

You may also see sources that use the non-farm payroll business survey data, also collected by the Bureau of Labor Statistics.?? It does not include the self-employed or farm workers. It does count those under the age of 16. It also counts a person who holds two jobs as two employed persons.

LOOKS LIKE TWO TOTALLY DIFFERENT SETS OF NUMBERS CAN BE CLAIMED AS ACCURATE BY TWO DIFFERENT GROUPS.

My bottom line and last word on the subject, unless you request a comment, is simple. The economy is great and Trump is running it. Let's see how he handles the soon to come disruption in goods from China due to the Virus.

I don't like the idea of comparing "how many jobs created". Are they high wage? Living wage? Are wages going up? Is weath going up?

What BS, bob? Something totally disproving something you said, or what? If I wrote something "offensive", I'd remember.

all3, my friend. All you did was disparage me as spouting the usual anti-Trump BS.
THAT is BS in itself,

The posts here speak for themselves.
You see Dougie getting redlined??

That's because HIS posts have been quality attempts at engaging in legit debate!
You oughta try it!

Posted by DougOut on 2/9/2020 10:21:00 AM (view original):

Methodology

These numbers are taken from the household survey data collected by the Bureau of Labor Statistics.?? It counts the total number of people employed.?? That includes people who are self-employed, private household workers, and those who are temporarily on unpaid leave.

You may also see sources that use the non-farm payroll business survey data, also collected by the Bureau of Labor Statistics.?? It does not include the self-employed or farm workers. It does count those under the age of 16. It also counts a person who holds two jobs as two employed persons.

LOOKS LIKE TWO TOTALLY DIFFERENT SETS OF NUMBERS CAN BE CLAIMED AS ACCURATE BY TWO DIFFERENT GROUPS.

My bottom line and last word on the subject, unless you request a comment, is simple. The economy is great and Trump is running it. Let's see how he handles the soon to come disruption in goods from China due to the Virus.

Excellent. I take no issues with your post.
Because it deals with reality, truth if you will.

As to your "bottom line".......... again, I agree!!
AND, in addition I hope he beats Obama's job creating stats in his term as President!
THIS year!

And then, we can all get behind OUR NEW POTUS in the united hope that quality leadership can START healing the divide between real Americans!

Posted by laramiebob on 2/9/2020 12:19:00 PM (view original):
all3, my friend. All you did was disparage me as spouting the usual anti-Trump BS.
THAT is BS in itself,

The posts here speak for themselves.
You see Dougie getting redlined??

That's because HIS posts have been quality attempts at engaging in legit debate!
You oughta try it!

Is that where I said I thought you were above the old "everything bad is Trump's fault" and "everything good is because Obama left it that way"?
I did think you were above that, as IT is truly BS. Accepting that is something you ought to try.

You don't read well???

Or just like to argue a losing point about a dead horse??

Take a look at the thread above your post.
I must have agreed with Doug on comment's made about Trump's job handling the economy half a dozen times.

You know my friend.
You're in danger of NOT being taken seriously anymore.
You just blindly support/defend Trump and TRY to NOT have it stick to you without shame...........even when there is no need to.
He should put you in his cabinet.
That's where all the good sycophants go to die.

Posted by laramiebob on 2/8/2020 7:04:00 PM (view original):
Thank Gawd Trump hasn't been able to F-up too badly the growing economy he was furnished by Pres. Obama.
Yet!

OK bob, how is this not the old "Obama gets all the credit and Trump gets all the blame" routine? What am I missing?
Saying I thought you were better than resorting to that also doesn't seem disparaging to me. In fact, just the opposite.

Because the FACT is that Trump DID inherit a growing economy, an economy he was "furnished" with due to Obama's economic policies. Which after 8 years, it is entirely FAIR to conclude that Pres. Obama delivered a sound and growing economy to Trump. One in which over 8 million jobs had been created under his watch in THIS Country.

And I have acknowledged (both in the very post you quote--though rather backhandedly) and elsewhere that Trump has been able in his handling of the economy, IF a bit risky (and costly to parts of our own economy--Farmers!!) with his tariff strategies.
The yet part is just that. His confrontational approach (which MAY have been ultimately necessary) still hasn't delivered the hoped for results.
Time will tell. Trump has only been in office 3 years, many of his economic policies have yet to bear fruit, whether excellent fruit or a rotten harvest still remains to be seen. As I said elsewhere, I DO hope he breaks Obama's jobs creation numbers----in THIS his 1st term. He would get credit for that.......from ME!

Thus, I don't see how my post was a "give all the credit to Obama and all the blame to Trump" post at all...........that was just your biased take on it!
As has been noted by many.........you are just overly sensitive to criticism of Trump and thus rush to defend him without provocation quite frequently.

Surely if Doug can figure out how to post in this thread without being red lined, you can.
In fact I welcome it.

Don the Con continues to lie and say he took over a "disaster" from Obama

To Cult 45ers, who had it worse? Obama taking over the deep dark Dubya recession or Donnie taking over Obama's economy?

It's easy to get jobs back after a recession. It's like they never left. Pick the low fruit.

Who makes manufacturing jobs? TRUMP!

Who makes new trade deals? TRUMP!

Who protects private health care and Social Security? TRUMP!

Who makes America great again? TRUMP!

Posted by laramiebob on 2/10/2020 12:16:00 PM (view original):
Because the FACT is that Trump DID inherit a growing economy, an economy he was "furnished" with due to Obama's economic policies. Which after 8 years, it is entirely FAIR to conclude that Pres. Obama delivered a sound and growing economy to Trump. One in which over 8 million jobs had been created under his watch in THIS Country.

And I have acknowledged (both in the very post you quote--though rather backhandedly) and elsewhere that Trump has been able in his handling of the economy, IF a bit risky (and costly to parts of our own economy--Farmers!!) with his tariff strategies.
The yet part is just that. His confrontational approach (which MAY have been ultimately necessary) still hasn't delivered the hoped for results.
Time will tell. Trump has only been in office 3 years, many of his economic policies have yet to bear fruit, whether excellent fruit or a rotten harvest still remains to be seen. As I said elsewhere, I DO hope he breaks Obama's jobs creation numbers----in THIS his 1st term. He would get credit for that.......from ME!

Thus, I don't see how my post was a "give all the credit to Obama and all the blame to Trump" post at all...........that was just your biased take on it!
As has been noted by many.........you are just overly sensitive to criticism of Trump and thus rush to defend him without provocation quite frequently.

Surely if Doug can figure out how to post in this thread without being red lined, you can.
In fact I welcome it.

I'm admittedly probably too quick to defend Trump sometimes. Based on the things posted here, by many, over the last 4 years, can anyone blame me? I am a bit outnumbered.
I still disagree with picking which things we give the current POTUS credit/blame for, and which we don't, but we've agreed to disagree before.
Other than rsp's new nickname, I have been very civil in all these Forums lately. I don't think redlining is ever the answer, nor is using it how many do what WIS intended it for (see Terms of Use). Don't want to read a person's posts, then block them. I don't think redlining has ever stopped anyone from posting in a Forum - in fact, maybe just the opposite.