Top HBD Overall Winning % (active owners, min. 25 seasons)

1. ab90 (67.5%)
2. cloudg13 (67.3%)
3. aarongleeman (65.6%)
4. gidoni13 (65.4%)
5. aaron_clarke (65.1%)

Most WS Titles (active owners)

1. rbedwell (38)
2. bjb2378 (33)
3. ewd330 (32)
4. djbradford (31)
5. scootermcray (31)

Highest Postseason Winning % (active owners, min. 25 seasons)

1. kevintam90 (66.2%)
2. cloudg13 (64.3%)
3. bem7742 (63.2%)
4. sbaynes19 (62.5%)
5. gidoni79 & kevinbigham (61.9%)

Highest Owner Winning % (Cum.)

1. Moonlight Graham (54.5%)
2. Cooperstown (53.3%)
3. BBWAA (53.0%)
4. Roy Hobbs (52.7%)
5. F.Y.C. (52.3%)

Highest Owner Postseason Winning % (Cum.)

1. BBWAA (52.4%)
2. Moneyball (52.3%)
3. Moonlight Graham (52.0%)
4. Cooperstown (51.9%)
5. Roy Hobbs (51.7%)

Highest Owner Ratio Postseasons to Seasons Played (Cum.)

1. Moonlight Graham (60.0%)
2. Cooperstown (54.2%)
3. Roy Hobbs (48.6%)
4. BBWAA (47.8%)
5. F.Y.C. (47.7%)

Pretty sure ab90 was/is an alias. At best he was trying to sell his username at one point. He conveniently took over loaded teams right when they were ready to win and quit when the run was over.

That's how you get to be #1

Posted by shobob on 3/8/2020 9:10:00 PM (view original):
That's how you get to be #1

Sure, but the only way you're getting the loaded team in the first place is if your alias is loading the team up for you. No actual player is loading up the team, then dropping it when it's ready to compete. That's where the problem comes in.

People are crazy . Taking over abandoned teams to helps leagues out can deflate ones #'s as can playing in different worlds. I've left ws caliber teams due to the worlds and Ive seen the new owner come in and f' them up. These #'s mean nothing to me.

Posted by brianp87 on 3/9/2020 2:55:00 PM (view original):
People are crazy . Taking over abandoned teams to helps leagues out can deflate ones #'s as can playing in different worlds. I've left ws caliber teams due to the worlds and Ive seen the new owner come in and f' them up. These #'s mean nothing to me.

Agreed. I love looking at what happens to a team after I have left it for personal reasons. Most of the time the owner wants to put their own personal 'Stamp' on it and ends up screwing it up. Once in Gibson I had to leave a team for financial reasons that I knew was on the cusp that I couldn't get over the hump with. New guy came in, won the WS and got the triple crown for my best player........... I don't know if I was happy or sad for him and that team.

That is a good result.

Perhaps there's a way to give weight to success in competitive worlds -- would benefit rankings of other top owners like foulballz. Considering number of tanking seasons is likely part of the answer. I'm noodling on it...

Back when HBD was relevant when we used to get world rankings every year, winning in the higher ranked worlds meant more because there were typically more parity in those.

You could weigh wins based on the worlds they were accumulated in.

Another factor should be the condition of the franchise prior to assuming control.

Those two factors would make the results more meaningful. Would also require much more work.

Another issue is how to rank the worlds for weighting. Some worlds used to be great and aren't now and vice versa.

Posted by hockey1984 on 3/9/2020 10:34:00 PM (view original):
Back when HBD was relevant when we used to get world rankings every year, winning in the higher ranked worlds meant more because there were typically more parity in those.

Were these produced by admin or an owner? I have recently gotten the formula used in the 2019 World Rankings, and would be willing to share/help produce an updated version but am not sure if those were calculated the same way as the rankings that you are referring to.

I don't think there was a 2019 world rankings. Maybe you mean 2018.

Posted by bruinsfan911 on 3/10/2020 4:17:00 PM (view original):

Posted by hockey1984 on 3/9/2020 10:34:00 PM (view original):
Back when HBD was relevant when we used to get world rankings every year, winning in the higher ranked worlds meant more because there were typically more parity in those.

Were these produced by admin or an owner? I have recently gotten the formula used in the 2019 World Rankings, and would be willing to share/help produce an updated version but am not sure if those were calculated the same way as the rankings that you are referring to.

That ranking I did was focused almost exclusively on parity with modifiers for turnover and wait time between seasons.
I have no idea what criteria the older rankings used.

Posted by bruceleefan on 3/9/2020 10:54:00 PM (view original):
You could weigh wins based on the worlds they were accumulated in.

Another factor should be the condition of the franchise prior to assuming control.

Those two factors would make the results more meaningful. Would also require much more work.

Another issue is how to rank the worlds for weighting. Some worlds used to be great and aren't now and vice versa.

I might just simply use a "relative to other teams in the world" type score.

That way you aren't using any "world rankings" which may or may not reflect what you're looking for.

If an owner takes a team and starts improving W/L record immediately, that W/L record continues to improve over time and results in titles i'd say that's a strong owner.

I typically don't make a bunch of moves the first season I take over a new franchise. Some worlds are pitching heavy some are hitter heavy.
I like to weed out bad contracts if possible, properly position my players in the field and see what improvement those two simple moves make and take that first season getting the "feel" of the new world I've joined.

Another factor IMO, is salary. I've seen guys take over a strong team, max payroll to try to win a quick title and lose more games than the franchise did the previous season. You see a W/L drop while the payroll jumps, that's not good. These types generally bail after 2 or 3 seasons and the franchise is then very unattractive to potential owners because of the ugly payroll situation. Often they'll also back load contracts making the franchise that much worse off.

Posted by bripat42 on 3/6/2020 2:19:00 PM (view original):
bjb2378 had a good run in Moonlight Graham and won a couple of World Series there. Beyond that, you won't find many of those usernames competing—let alone being successful—in the listed worlds.

This is a high quality point -- successful owners in a World with little to no policing is less impressive than successful owners in the above mentioned high quality Worlds.

Thanks for putting this together, Opie. I usually look at average tenure to see if a successful owner is just cherry picking or World jumping his way to success. However, being able to bump an owner's success against some of HBDs best Worlds takes it a step further.