Posted by jamier2003 on 3/26/2020 2:13:00 PM (view original):
We can all pick apart other people's teams and find ways of calling owners out for tanking. For example, I don't like the fact that slash hasn't signed a bunch of his draft picks while signing a $4.5MM IFA. But I'm not calling him out for it in the world chat, that is counterproductive to the health of the world. More so than a team that is close to .500 fielding a SS that might not be worthy of the position. I could also call out slash in his worth worlds for poor records, poor minor league records, and maybe keeping a player or 2 down in the minors rather than promoting him ahead of a major player that is worse.
Everyone, in some form, isn't doing their 100% best to maximize the ML roster. In fact, I'd rather see a quality minor league system and an average to slightly below-average ML team because it tells me that the owner is indeed going to be a longtime contributor. A team that is a world beater in the ML but fields sub .250 minor league teams just shows me an owner who will move around trying to find that flash-in-the-pan to get a WS. But that is just my opinion and I understand others might differ.
The only thing we can do is put parameters in place that have been successful elsewhere. Minimum win is the best place to start.
So slash- let's please keep additional thoughts on the subject to trade chats to the owner and to the commissioner. The commissioner can then propose different rules that would help with the situation. It might be voted for or against.
But I do agree with your assessment of the SS situation.
Really bro? I am waiting to sign my #1 pick (if he will sign), but THAT'S all you have about how I run my team? You're not mad I traded my best player right when the season started for prospects (which kind of contradicts your point)?
I don't care about the minors. I do the best I can to maintain them, but there are no trophies for minor league success. If I have to sacrifice my RL team for the benefit of the franchise, so be it. That's not even close to being a team that has more ML talent than I do playing sub par defensive players at multiple positions on the IF.
You know how I found out about it? It was an accident. I was looking at the teams with losing records to find potential trade targets. I wasn't looking to see who was tanking...obviously it took me over 100 games to see it. I looked at his roster to see who I could trade for and was amazed at how much top end talent he had..which led to the question how is the team doing so poorly. Tanking 101 is play players out of position and sure enough that's where it was. I didn't even get to the NL; nor did I call out other teams that had less talent. I didn't go to the team stats, sort by defense, then minus plays looking for tankers. I accidentally stumbled across one team that had a lot of top end talent, but was under-performing and it was really easy to figure out why.
What's more concerning is how few people (nobody publicly; few privately through trade chat) cared; how many people would rather attack me for finding a less than ideal situation than were upset about the situation itself. THAT worries me about the future of the league far more than one owner under-performing because he didn't set things up right (if we're thinking best intentions). I posted here because the excuses were that the players were good SS options for him. I knew that wasn't true, but since people kept pushing it, I took it here to people that wouldn't just protect someone.
I didn't ask for him to be removed. I didn't even ask for a punishment. I said we can't tolerate it; we can't ignore it. Somehow that makes me the bad guy, but I'm good with that if that's what it takes to get things fixed.