What is a realistic target for DIII recruiting? I just started and want to know what is realistic so I don’t blow my recruiting budget in players I can’t get. I am D3 and my team prestige is C- son it great to start. Should I target C players or D players with good work ethic?

when you say C or D players with good work ethic, i wasn't sure what you meant at first - are you talking about unscouted players basically? before you recruit a player, you really want to scout them - for an unscouted player, you might get info like, hes a D on offense. that means nothing! after you scout, you might get - hes 42 blue perimeter, 45 black athleticism - and those colors translate directly to growth ranges (the blue 'high potential' guy can gain 21-27 points, for example).

armed with the information from scouting, you are *infinitely* better able to evaluate players.

what is the best beginner guide we could point this guy to? i remember OR did an updated beginner guide for a 10 pack at some point, where is that? i think its officially the HD guide - or was at some point - but it was before the new recruiting stuff, and im struggling to find it.

fleck, at the top of this thread, there's a couple posts - guide to new 3.0 release - and how to win in d2/d3. the how to win d2/d3 is from the old way of recruiting, but the ideas are really good - if not a bit advanced, in some cases, for a new coach. that was a cocky albeit amazing coach who wrote the guide, and the info in there in many cases applies 100% today. the guide to 3.0 recruiting is *fantastic* to learn 3.0 recruiting - but it does assume you knew the basics of how to play the game in 2.0.

heres a link i found with some really basic, beginner level stuff - its just organized in terms of questions you might have, less as a guide. this is official stuff, so pretty bland strategy wise, but probably a good resource for a true beginner
https://help.whatifsports.com/hc/en-us/categories/360000864411-Hoops-Dynasty

there has to be a decent, true beginners guide somewhere... i think... hopefully someone can post it for this guy? if not, i wonder with the increase in newer d3 coaches, if that should be put together - a true beginners guide.

and fleck, last thing ill say - the forums here aren't novella after novella - i'm just completely insane. and type really fast. so don't let this scare you! this is a really cool game - for the first 2-3 years i played, the enjoyment i got from this game was just unreal (i overdid it and burnt myself out...) - however, its definitely got a learning curve on it. it can be a phenomenal experience, its really rewarding and in many aspects, the community is great. but you can also play for 6 months and feel like you are still a rookie! so - be patient - give it a little time to see if this is your cup of tea or not. its worth it - if it is your cup of tea, the payoff is *huge*

Thank you for the fast response. I am enjoying learning how to do this. Last question, at the D3 level, can I recruit ineligible players and can they play immediately at my school?

Yes and yes. Keep the questions coming, many on here happy to help.

I always tell newbies cutoffs of 115-120 ATH/SP composite (ATH + SP) for PG-SF and 60-65 Ath cutoff for PF-C as it narrows the focus of what you're looking for in a good D3 player.

Look around at good D3 teams. it helps you get a handle on who's good and who isn't.

Posted by Sportsbulls on 4/8/2020 9:24:00 PM (view original):
I always tell newbies cutoffs of 115-120 ATH/SP composite (ATH + SP) for PG-SF and 60-65 Ath cutoff for PF-C as it narrows the focus of what you're looking for in a good D3 player.

To clarify, I'm assuming you mean 115-120 composite and 60-65 cutoff for projected ratings, correct? If they're looking for prospects already at those thresholds there will be slim pickings, especially if they're with programs in the C prestige range at DIII.

Also, generally speaking, it's good to target DII prospects first - I only ever look at DIII prospects if in the process of scouting I uncover a guy with a whole lot of blue and green in his ratings.

I'm no expert. And I'm still trying to relearn the game after many years away from it. My only advice is to not limit yourself to exclusively recruiting from your own division. Definitely look at D2 rated players, and even some D1 guys can be had. Also, be sure to scout everybody (all division levels) within your immediate area. Sometimes there's a gem nearby and that might give you a leg up on a school further away (player preference notwithstanding). It's much cheaper to scout and recruit nearby players. Good luck!

This afternoon and I’m going to make a newbies scouting guide.

Posted by WardoYT on 4/8/2020 6:29:00 PM (view original):

Posted by Fleck89 on 4/8/2020 6:09:00 PM (view original):
What is a realistic target for DIII recruiting? I just started and want to know what is realistic so I don’t blow my recruiting budget in players I can’t get. I am D3 and my team prestige is C- son it great to start. Should I target C players or D players with good work ethic?

5 bench players in region and from division II but you have to scrap 10 players and used the color buttons to prioritize the players you want.

Do yourself a favor and disregard anything that WardoYT posts...he's a Forums troll that is known for his nonsensical ramblings. There are a ton of awesome Coaches in here that will give you valuable information. Reach out with whatever questions you have and good luck.

Posted by boxxy1 on 4/9/2020 9:35:00 AM (view original):
I'm no expert. And I'm still trying to relearn the game after many years away from it. My only advice is to not limit yourself to exclusively recruiting from your own division. Definitely look at D2 rated players, and even some D1 guys can be had. Also, be sure to scout everybody (all division levels) within your immediate area. Sometimes there's a gem nearby and that might give you a leg up on a school further away (player preference notwithstanding). It's much cheaper to scout and recruit nearby players. Good luck!

Don't scout d3, not worth the money. As a new coach I'd probably suggest scouting mainly d2, there should be s little less competition for recruits, but others may say just recruit d1. How to scout at d3 is different by area. In general you want to fss the states near you. If you are in a relatively sparse area you can do a private camp, if densely populated probably not worth it. Then use assistant search to get as many guys to level 4 as possible. You can filter by position if, for example you know you need a guard. I usually start with a radius of 100 miles, then go to 200, etc. Until I have maybe $1000 left, which I keep for 2nd session in case of possible interesting transfers.

Posted by sol_phenom3 on 4/9/2020 9:06:00 AM (view original):

Posted by Sportsbulls on 4/8/2020 9:24:00 PM (view original):
I always tell newbies cutoffs of 115-120 ATH/SP composite (ATH + SP) for PG-SF and 60-65 Ath cutoff for PF-C as it narrows the focus of what you're looking for in a good D3 player.

To clarify, I'm assuming you mean 115-120 composite and 60-65 cutoff for projected ratings, correct? If they're looking for prospects already at those thresholds there will be slim pickings, especially if they're with programs in the C prestige range at DIII.

Also, generally speaking, it's good to target DII prospects first - I only ever look at DIII prospects if in the process of scouting I uncover a guy with a whole lot of blue and green in his ratings.

Yes. Projected ratings. Good call.

Posted by boxxy1 on 4/9/2020 9:35:00 AM (view original):
I'm no expert. And I'm still trying to relearn the game after many years away from it. My only advice is to not limit yourself to exclusively recruiting from your own division. Definitely look at D2 rated players, and even some D1 guys can be had. Also, be sure to scout everybody (all division levels) within your immediate area. Sometimes there's a gem nearby and that might give you a leg up on a school further away (player preference notwithstanding). It's much cheaper to scout and recruit nearby players. Good luck!

I actually disagree. I wouldn’t ever scout D3 like piman said and I think it’s more efficient to focus mostly on either D1 or D2 with a camp than to scout both equally with assistant.

Posted by cubcub113 on 4/9/2020 10:10:00 AM (view original):
This afternoon and I’m going to make a newbies scouting guide.

I’m interested to see your guide. I have been working on one, but my first draft isn’t ready to be displayed yet. It includes several methods though.