If someone doesn't name their team the "Hummingbirds" there is something wrong. Maybe I will.

Well, I started this rollercoaster ride with the 42 Yankees and then was "gifted" the 42 Phillies and the 42 Tigers (Thank You). I started this round with a half dozen teams under consideration and watched that dwindle to just one. It is fitting; however to stick with the 42 theme and so I will select the 1942 Cubs.

Now to get working on those daggers...

Okay -- it's dagger time.

No special order. Just post as you're ready.

Once I've been daggered and I get my team ready, I'll post it here. I'd like everyone else to post theirs the same way so I can check each team's legality.

I will start:

eman7400 the daggers take out the Astrodome and Sandy Koufax

Let's not let the suspense linger. I've been trying to build a roster with your teams, BigScungil, and it ain't easy. It sure would be easy to dagger that studly '52 Musial, but geez you're gonna have to go with some mighty ugly choices elsewhere to roster a $9M player. I'm gonna let you try.

I looked at your pitching, and while there are some good ones I could deny you there are options for sure. The Dodgers bought you practically a whole rotation if you want it, and between them and the '52 Cards you've got good bullpen options too. No, I just don't see a single dagger there that really makes things impossible.

But when I try to build your offense, I do notice that backups start to become pretty precious spots. That position restriction really limits you. Where you really are limited is at SS. Let's take a closer look. ... The '52 Cards have $5.4M Hemus with plenty of PA and a really mediocre glove, and that's it. The '32 Cards have $2.8M worse defender Gelbert, and that's it. The '52 Braves have a nice glove $4.2M Logan, and that's it. The '82 Dodgers have my least favorite Dodger of his era, the man we knew best as "E-6" ... Bill Russell, who comes in at an affordable $3.6M. And the Dodgers do have one backup there, a $210K cheapy at the end of his career.

By now, you've seen the problem. You must roster two shortstops, and those are the only five you can choose from. Four of them cost at least $2.8M and have over 530 PA you won't want to use anywhere else. I'm sure you'll find a way out of it, but it won't be fun and will force hard choices elsewhere.

I dagger a guy best known as a bird, all but one year as a slick-fielding Oriole. But he finished his career as a scrub Dodger and his $210K salary as your only low-priced backup shortstop really would have helped you soar. So I have concluded I must dagger Mark Belanger.

As for parks, you've only got three to pick from. It's tough to know how this team will end up looking, but I don't see a team that's likely to want to be extreme in doubles (+3 in Sportsman's or -4 in Dodger Stadium). Braves Field is not extreme but good for pitchers across the board and seems like the best fit for a team that is likely to have some good pitching and wants to help them out. So let's dagger Braves Field and let you pick from the more extreme parks that likely won't suit your lineup.

Good luck!

fatguyrd

Daggers
1. Braves Field
2. Rp- Ron Reed

garbageman
1. Busch Stadium II
2. SP-Joaquin Andujar

some logic. Garbageman has the 52 Indians with 3 great sluggers (Doby, Rosen, Easter) and a $10 million+ Bob Lemon SP, the 82 Twins (sluggers, horrible pitching), 52 Red Sox (one P with a WHIP under 1.30) so probably chose the 82 Cards for their pitching. Thus, I had to take Andujar and also take away Busch as a pitcher friendly park.

I get to dagger toddcommish.

He has the 1922 & 1952 Chicago White Sox, 1942 Philadelphia A’s, & 1962 Detroit Tigers. The combination of these 4 teams gives the T-commish options at most positions when I wanted to dagger a star.

Dagger Eddie Collins & he has Nellie Fox or Harvey Kuehn . Dagger Rocky Colavito he has Minnie Minoso or Al Kaline. The dagger would only be a flesh wound for positional players.

I decided on taking out Hank Aguirre P 1962 Detroit Tigers. Reasonably priced starter with the best WHIP of 1.05 he has to grab.

We’ll let T-Commish play in his 2 least offensive parks and dagger Tiger Stadium and the lefty friendly right field porch.

Evil Twin with 72 Dodgers 72 expos 62 Colts and 32 Cubs
You will have a strong pitching staff and bullpen There was enough guys to cover if one got daggered Your offence has some pieces most are in the OF and1b. Most other postions had one or 2 useable players to spread around and you had many positions covered when it came to cheap Options. So I decided to dagger your Catcher Which will leave you with 1.8 Hal W Smith as your starting catcher My Dagger is 1932 Gabby Hartnett

For You Stadium I Will Dagger Dodgers Stadium

JPeterso,

Your choices of the star studded ’52 Dodgers’ offense and the solid, but unspectacular ’82 Padres’ pitching would make a nice little team. Luckily, you are compelled to also roster six players each from the execrable ’42 Senators and the ’82 Cubs.

Daggering one of the Dodgers or Padres wouldn’t likely cause much pain, since there are plenty of comparable options to choose from… (The only one I actually considered was Pee Wee Reese because of the limited options at SS) So, I decided that this dagger couldn’t be a “keep-away” kind of dagger for a superstar performer, because there were plenty of adequate fill-ins and trade-offs. This dagger had to be a strategically placed wrench thrown into his machine.

I am daggering DUTCH LEONARD and his 38 very good, closer worthy innings. Good luck finding six useful Senators (and six useful Cubs).

Interestingly, you have two hitter-friendly parks and two pitcher-friendly parks. I personally prefer to play in hitter friendly parks and you’re gonna have to put out some Cub/Senator pitchers, so I’m daggering JACK MURPHY STADIUM.

Daggers for DodgerDon

Carlton Fisk C
Astrodome

tkcronin has a solid group of hitters to choose from. His first choice of the '62 Giants gave him a potential lineup of Mays, Cepeda, McCovey and 2 of the 3 famous Alou brothers. Potentially devastating, for sure. The Giants pitching staff, fortified with the likes of Pierce and Marichal, has the potential to give up a few dingers. Other owners, recognizing this fact, did not grant any help in the pitching department.

I suspect that the '72 Cubs were selected to bolster the pitching and it does. Fergie Jenkins to the rescue, I presume. Certainly a player worthy of the dagger. But as I scan the pitching I see pitchers with similar normalized stats. Trying to do damage there is like playing whack-a-mole. Smack one down and another exact replica arises to take its place.

So we are back to the offence looking to deliver a deep cut. Mays, Williams, Averill and Vosmik seem to be obvious choices. But they all play the outfield and they all cost the same. And I still don't want to play whack-a-mole.

My search has led me to the infield where four names pop up over and over, Cissell, Santo, Fanzone and Montague. Daggering Fanzone or Montague would leave tkcronin with expensive platoons at SS or 3B, but I suspect there is a way to cover that. Ron Santo will be a beast at third base. But I won't dagger Santo because he seems like a really decent human. Instead, I choose to dagger Bill Cissell because he is versatile, playing 2b or SS, and is reasonably priced. I am hopeful that will foil some unknown plan that you have planned. Not likely.


You have a bunch of hitters parks and one pitcher's park. It seems smart to take away the pitchers park to make you draft more IP. Candlestick Park gets the second dagger.

Good luck.

Alright, redcped, you have the 42 Dodgers; 72 Rangers (odd team out); 42 Reds; & 42 Browns.

I looked at a few too many options to dagger a player. I originally thought about getting rid of Dick Billings: your best catcher and about the only real hitter on the Rangers but Billings is not really all that great with limited defense and you would still be able to find some backup Rangers for the bench.

You managed to find a number of cheap backups. Great job. One place where you are a bit limited; however, is SS. If Damon Phillips is removed, the next cheapest SS for a backup would be Toby Harrah at a cost of almost $2M over Phillips. That appears to be the best way to hurt you so say "Goodbye" to Damon Phillips (SS).

As for stadiums, you have a couple of pitcher parks in Arlington and Crosley and a couple of hitter parks in Ebbets and Sportsman's Park. Your team is fairly balanced but I'll dagger the park of your first choice: Ebbets Field.

Hey Chazzzzzz...

I will start with the stadium dagger. as we all know there should be no visits to NYC at this time I will eliminate the house that Ruth built, Yankee Stadium (I).

Now for the player... looking over your teams I see a ton of hitting, hall of fame level hitting in some cases. Ruth, Gehrig, Banks, Musial, Cy Williams, etc. Your team should hit no matter where a dagger lands so go ahead and try to roster them all. On the pitching side you have a pair of $8m arms. If you were to keep them both it would be much harder to roster the bats so I will help you out by eliminating Bob Gibson of your recently selected 62 Cards.

Posted by toddcommish on 5/9/2020 2:25:00 PM (view original):
JPeterso,

Your choices of the star studded ’52 Dodgers’ offense and the solid, but unspectacular ’82 Padres’ pitching would make a nice little team. Luckily, you are compelled to also roster six players each from the execrable ’42 Senators and the ’82 Cubs.

Daggering one of the Dodgers or Padres wouldn’t likely cause much pain, since there are plenty of comparable options to choose from… (The only one I actually considered was Pee Wee Reese because of the limited options at SS) So, I decided that this dagger couldn’t be a “keep-away” kind of dagger for a superstar performer, because there were plenty of adequate fill-ins and trade-offs. This dagger had to be a strategically placed wrench thrown into his machine.

I am daggering DUTCH LEONARD and his 38 very good, closer worthy innings. Good luck finding six useful Senators (and six useful Cubs).

Interestingly, you have two hitter-friendly parks and two pitcher-friendly parks. I personally prefer to play in hitter friendly parks and you’re gonna have to put out some Cub/Senator pitchers, so I’m daggering JACK MURPHY STADIUM.

Doh. Somehow I thought Dutch would fly under the radar. Nice catch.

szczubelek, I went back and forth on your team - thought about taking out a middle infielder, but ultimately decided you don't have nearly enough good starting pitching...so your dagger goes to Mickey Lolich...and to Sportsman's Park