Ok guys who know a lot more than me, I need some advice...

I am pretty much out of it and want to learn.. I have Bob Hazel and plan to play him 80+ games or so with no rest ( I will uncheck the rest option as well as set his rest % to zero).. To those unfamiliar in 164 plate appearances in 1957 he had 7 hrs and batted .407. Will he just go flat and go 0 for 100? Will the sim let me even do it..? What if I tried in with a pitcher? Looking forward to your responses.


Gordy

In one of the pinned threads there's a great one about fatigue. Contrarian23 and just4me have both written a lot about the affects of fatigue.

Many owners use players down to 70-80% without seeing a lot of regression in their performance, you typically see a much great dip from 70%-30%, though it won't be a complete dip. He likely won't go 0-100, but also likely won't hit .407.

To answer one of your questions more directly, yes the sim will let you do it. You'll need to set your heirarchies correctly to make sure no one one is set to relieve him.

It is possible to do it with pitchers as well. Though pitchers, imo, have a much bigger drop in performance between 70%-30% and become nearly pointless to use after a point. I have a league where I'm taking my SP's to 70% though and so far haven't seen much decline in performance.

Thanks for the input, If he batted .280 with 12 hrs, he would be worth the price IMO

He won't hit .280 at that level of usage. You'll be lucky to get even .180 if he plays full games without rest for half a season.

Posted by snowballs23 on 5/24/2020 1:09:00 PM (view original):
Thanks for the input, If he batted .280 with 12 hrs, he would be worth the price IMO

Honestly, I think it's worth trying out for sure, only cause I love seeing what the extent of things are. But for the money, you'd be better off with 1900 Mike Donlin, he's gonna hit 15-20HR and hit .300 in over 300ab

Posted by skunk206 on 5/24/2020 2:23:00 PM (view original):
He won't hit .280 at that level of usage. You'll be lucky to get even .180 if he plays full games without rest for half a season.

This.

I'm all about pushing guys to their max and beyond. You can get a competitive 200 PA out of him, maybe a few more. But once you get beyond that the fatigue penalty is too strong. If you're trying to get in 100 games and roughly 400 PA, he'll finish around .170-.200 AVG with around 10-17 HR. But it'll be heavily front loaded. For the first 200 PA or so he'll get you about .340-380 with around 7-12 HRs, for the last 200 PA he'll hit like .050 with around 3-5 HR.

You can push certain types of hitters into fatigue because of how the decision tree effects certain outcomes, and also building your team to minimize the effect of fatigue dampening on the most effected stats (i.e., with pitchers, OAV and HR/9 are biggest effected, so you put them in a hit and HR dampening stadium and put in a good defense behind them, and you can minimize the effect fatigue has, but it's still dampening their performance, you're just mitigating that dampening effect with your managerial decisions). However, pushing them is not the same as not having an effect. Fatigue absolutely has an effect. Pushing players requires learning how to control that effect.

I think what I will do is to play him only against righties, also my home is Modern Yankee stadium, that will help more.. I have about 100 games left , we will see what happens

Worth trying out as an experiment, but expectations should be low...

Bob Hazel just had 3 Hr's at 78% power... for the season he's batting .438... Waiting for the shoe to drop ?

78% isn't that bad. The drop-off will be coming though.

You'll start to notice the drop once he gets below 70%

How’s his fielding so far?

He's keeping a social distance from the ball