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No.

Antifa, if they even have an ideology, would probably be characterized as anarchist, and maybe even left wing if you are being generous (even though nothing is stopping a libertarian from joining Antifa). Politically, that's about the farthest away from fascism you can possibly get. More proof that most Americans know absolutely nothing about politics.

Oh, and Nazism is a left-wing ideology because "more government."

Don't ask all3; he'll probably think I'm being serious.

Atheists are a Fundamental Religious Cult!

No. They are authoritarian...and just because Fascists are also authoritarians does not mean that both groups are the same.

They certainly are not anarchists. They are about the farthest away from Anarchism you can possibly get.

Sorry miami, but you are unequivocally wrong on this one. It's not even up for debate. In no way is antifa an authoritarian group.

Posted by tangplay on 6/4/2020 3:23:00 PM (view original):
Sorry miami, but you are unequivocally wrong on this one. It's not even up for debate. In no way is antifa an authoritarian group.

Because you think I am wrong I am a moron?

That's too bad. I thought there was a rapport between us that could maintain civility.

For starters, to advocate for authoritarianism, you need to actually be a political movement. You need to be working towards a GOVERNMENT that restricts freedoms. Not taking it amongst the people to stop fascism. If members of antifa actually believed that the political process could stifle fascism, they wouldn't actively seek out fascists to rattle around.

I deleted the insult because I felt bad. I don't think you are a moron. But saying that antifa is a authoritarian group is really laughable.

If antifa were a voting block that advocated for a stronger state to crush fascism, you would have an argument. But the fact that antifa is about direct action and reduced government completely destroys your argument.

Posted by tangplay on 6/4/2020 3:27:00 PM (view original):
I deleted the insult because I felt bad. I don't think you are a moron. But saying that antifa is a authoritarian group is really laughable.

Thank you. You still have some decency left. We disagree on the definition of authoritarianism.

Does Antifa have any political objectives? Of course they do. Then, they are not anarchists. Anarchists don't have political objectives. Anarchists are not on the left nor the right of the political spectrum because they are off the spectrum completely.

Antifa wants to impose their own political beliefs on others through direct action, including violent direct action. That is a type of authoritarianism.

Who is the leader of antifa?

Posted by gomiami1972 on 6/4/2020 3:36:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 6/4/2020 3:27:00 PM (view original):
I deleted the insult because I felt bad. I don't think you are a moron. But saying that antifa is a authoritarian group is really laughable.

Thank you. You still have some decency left. We disagree on the definition of authoritarianism.

Does Antifa have any political objectives? Of course they do. Then, they are not anarchists. Anarchists don't have political objectives. Anarchists are not on the left nor the right of the political spectrum because they are off the spectrum completely.

Antifa wants to impose their own political beliefs on others through direct action, including violent direct action. That is a type of authoritarianism.

Antifa has no political objectives. There is no Antifa candidate. Antifa has no will to garner change through voting.

Instead, Antifa advocates for change through direct action, which is textbook anarchism. Authoritarianism, by definition, has to come through a state. Anarchists and authoritarians might achieve similar outcomes, but an Anarchist will never ask the state to do it for them.

I feel like people see political violence and immediately assume that the group committing the violence is authoritarian of some kind, when that doesn't have to be the case.

Same energy as "the bigger the government, the more left wing"

Posted by Uofa2 on 6/4/2020 3:41:00 PM (view original):
Who is the leader of antifa?

No idea...although I don't see how it matters.

Posted by usf_bulls on 6/4/2020 3:48:00 PM (view original):

Posted by Uofa2 on 6/4/2020 3:41:00 PM (view original):
Who is the leader of antifa?

No idea...although I don't see how it matters.

Because it’s not a group, it’s not an organization, and it doesn’t have members or leaders?