I know generally LP/PER are the only ratings that you'll see 70+ point improvements on. Has anyone ever seen 50+ point improvements though in ATH or SPD? I feel like most of my greens max out at 40 points at absolute most with ATH & SPD.

Anyone seen instances where a guy with under 20 ATH who is green peaks above 70?

i dont know about 20->70 but there is a REALLY good study on this somewhere that makes it clear how often different categories go into different ranges. i generally consider +40 outside lp/per a 'realistic best case' so i think that is a reasonable way to look at it, but i do think there are differences, like def and passing have more odds of getting up near 50 while ath/spd that is pretty darn unlikely, or something along those lines. the study captures all that fairly well though. i have no idea where it is but i'm guessing someone who regularly reads these forums has it bookmarked or whatever.

Oh it's buy someone with animal in their name, possum maybe?

I've never really thought about it before, but players improving their speed as much as they do is a bit silly. Athleticism I've always thought of as guys working out, getting stronger. But speed - you can't teach speed.

This guy was from my Post team I mentioned in the "best lower division team" ever thread. He was a big reason for the strength of that team. ATH from 29 to 71. Pretty good growth

https://imgur.com/a/YFRVNSa

Posted by Baums_away on 6/5/2020 12:12:00 PM (view original):
I've never really thought about it before, but players improving their speed as much as they do is a bit silly. Athleticism I've always thought of as guys working out, getting stronger. But speed - you can't teach speed.

You can teach speed.

mostly it’s technique and physical development but you can certainly train to make yourself faster, like really faster not just stopwatch faster.

Many years ago I had a D3 guy that started at 50/45/48 (ath/sp/def) and ended 94/89/100. Absolutely caught lightning in a bottle and in 2.0, he was an absolute monster.

This is a current freshman I have than can get to at least 41 points of growth in ATH. CT ends tonight. So if he stays green thru the off season, who knows! (I'll quit sharing now until I get a +50 player or close to it)

https://imgur.com/a/L8MLgrO

I’ve got a guy on my team that started out 34/55 ath and speed and now he’s 65/90 both still black