Posted by Guitarguy567 on 6/7/2020 9:09:00 AM (view original):
Didn't realize the police staged the looting and the murders. David Dorn was killed at a pawn shop, his life worth the value of a free tv. You're being dense if you don't see the difference.

It’s super cool how you only talk about him. It doesn’t give you away at all.

Posted by laramiebob on 6/7/2020 9:30:00 AM (view original):
The War on drugs is over. We lost.
Yup to ending civil forfeiture as well!

But who is Jo J.??
The Libertarian candidate?

No chance at getting 1% of the vote.
No one has ever heard of her.

The Libertarians can't even get many votes when folks have heard of their candidate!

Lol. For sure. I literally may be the only person that votes for her.

Can you imagine how much media outrage there would be if a tenth of the chaos had ensued from the open up America protests that actually has occurred from these BLM protests?

Posted by Guitarguy567 on 6/7/2020 6:22:00 AM (view original):
Protests, which for the record, I did not support and thought were dumb. But their violence did not extend much past an SUV driving Karen giving the finger to a counter protester.

I wonder if the police used riot gear and tear gas in response to those protests?

(This isn't a debate that you are going to win)

Posted by strikeout26 on 6/7/2020 9:09:00 AM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 6/7/2020 2:35:00 AM (view original):

Posted by strikeout26 on 6/7/2020 1:02:00 AM (view original):
Jo Jorgensen 2020! I’m with Jo! And her .79862% of the vote!

Testing your libertarian-ness.

Jorgensen supports CJR like ending civil forfeiture, ending the war on drugs, and elsewhere supports green energy, free trade, and straight up open borders. You sign off on all of that?

Yep to ending civil forfeiture. Yep to ending the war on drugs (although i'm not sure that I think all drugs should be legal). Obviously I support green energy and free trade. Although, like Jorgensen, I don't believe the government should subsidize green energy. I don't believe in government subsidies. And I would take the libertarian stance on open borders if it weren't for the welfare state. I believe that anyone that comes into the country should be a net gain.

You don't have to support everything about a candidate to support a candidate and especially when your options are Joe Biden and Donald Trump. I actually wish Justin Amash would have went through with his plan of running as the libertarian candidate.

Ok, props to you for being ideologically consistent. I would note that even with the welfare state, immigration is a net positive in the long run.

On a side note, I've become much less hostile towards libertarianism over the past couple of months. I agree with them more than I agree with the Republican party, and small government is more appealing to me than fascism. Gary Johnson and Republicans pretending to be libertarians had turned me off to the party.

I have another question for you: Who is more purely capitalist; Biden or Trump?

I have a question for you, guitarguy:

If, during the "Open America" protests, the police had showed up in riot gear and used tear gas and rubber bullets to push protesters back, do you honestly believe that violence wouldn't have followed?

It's obvious that the police are treating these protests far differently than the open America ones because of what the people are protesting and their skin color.

"I have another question for you: Who is more purely capitalist; Biden or Trump?"

Careful. That reeks of a trick. lol

Posted by tangplay on 6/7/2020 11:33:00 AM (view original):

Posted by Guitarguy567 on 6/7/2020 6:22:00 AM (view original):
Protests, which for the record, I did not support and thought were dumb. But their violence did not extend much past an SUV driving Karen giving the finger to a counter protester.

I wonder if the police used riot gear and tear gas in response to those protests?

(This isn't a debate that you are going to win)

Yeah, kinda skipped a big factor there didn't he.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure that the riot gear and tear gas didn't come out until the rioting and looting started. I know that is how the order went in Georgia. The thugs started doing damage in Atlanta one night and the next day Mayor Bottoms and Kemp brought in that stuff. Quelled it pretty quickly. Protests were mainly peaceful after that.

Nope. That's just wrong. Maybe rioting and looting in other places, but many protests were peaceful and then met with violence.

If the cops were specifically trying to stop rioting, I wouldn't have a problem with that. I have a problem with looking for violence against peaceful protesters, something they didn't do with the Open America protests.

Police looking to stop looting would be doing more to protect stores, and would be staying out of the way of those who just wish to march and chant.

That’s the way it played out here. As I said from the beginning, leadership in Atlanta/State of GA should be held up as a model.

How about all the monuments defaced? Did the police do that too? The media is complicit in creating a fake narrative of respectful and "peaceful" protests.

yeah! Don't believe your lying eyes!!

You both are using non-sequiturs (also guitarguy ignored my question). The rioting and looting is completely irrelevant if the police are using tear gas on peaceful protesters. No one has a problem with stopping looting. The police aren't focused on the looters, though. The police are inciting violence against peaceful protesters. That's a fact. 99% of the protesters have been peaceful. No, I'm not exaggerating.

Also - controversial opinion alert - I don't give a **** about monuments. They are fair game.

If conservatives defaced monuments dear to liberal hearts what would the media's reaction be?