Posted by laramiebob on 6/9/2020 11:54:00 AM (view original):

Posted by coreander on 6/9/2020 11:46:00 AM (view original):
Biological sex is not real. Gender is a construct. To believe differently is to be a bigot. I do not feel like getting into this anymore with you right now.

Nuts to that!! YOU are real. You can't claim to be spirit yet.
Your biological physique exists. That heart, those lungs, those kidneys, they are REAL!
You can't believe them away. You can't attain the purity of no "body" until this part of your life reality is over.

It isn't that there is NO Gender, No Biology any more than that there is only two sexualities.
There are (many believe) about 7 sexualities. Genders even If you prefer that term.

You can be indeterminate in belief IF you desire to be. You have that right. Nobody's complaining (well some might).
But, you can't be indeterminate in the physical. The parts have specificity. That's NOT your call.

Why would you fight it? Or encourage others to fight that determination that isn't theirs to make?
That makes for an unhealthy spirit and a confused mentality, doesn't it?

I would encourage you to educate yourself! Do you know why people have been angry with JK Rowling these past few days?

I haven't seen the argument that biological sex isn't real. My understanding was that sex is real but so is gender, which is a social construct. Maybe I'm wrong.

Oh - guitarguy, everything you said can be applied to the right as well. Ready?

If you are the editor of the New York times op-ed section, you better not let any dissenting opinions get through or we will make you resign. We will flood social media with our outrage.

Fox News watchers are outraged that CHRIS WALLACE is allowed to have a show, and get pissy every time Donna Brazille makes an appearance. One side does this far more than the other, especially when what we criticize is fascism.

If you are a star athlete that has given a ton back to your community but you dare question our dogma...we will flood your social media with outrage and threats until you apologize.

Going back to Fox News, Laura Ingraham told BLM players to "shut up and dribble" but is defending Drew Brees' first amendment rights.

If more Black people are killed in one day in Chicago than were killed by police officers in the whole of last year. We will remain silent however.

I really wish you would stop going back to this argument, because it makes you look silly. No one is staying silent about inner city crime, in fact, Democrats nationally are doing FAR more to alleviate this problem than Republicans are. Protesting inner city crime will do nothing, because criminals aren't necessarily accountable to the people. Their job isn't to protect and serve. PLEASE stop making this argument.

But if you tweeted something back in 2012 we don't like, we are coming for you. Welcome to the new liberal world order.

Can you please point me to someone who has had their entire career ruined over a tweet from 2012? Remember when I specifically asked you to stop making claims of this kind without evidence? Also, that's the free market, baby. Live it. Love it.

Our echo chamber will not be penetrated. We are the holy warriors of social justice. If you are not with us, we will get you fired. We will slander your name on Twitter.

Boycotting businesses and getting people fired is also part of the free market; in fact, it's something that right wingers support. I am almost 100% certain that you support these actions as well. I can explain to you why if you want, but hopefully you are smart enough to figure it out on your own. As for echo chambers, research shows that everyone does it, including, I assume, you. This isn't a "left" concept.

I really wish you would think through your points before posting them. Repeating the stuff you saw Andy Ngo post doesn't make for good arguments.

Posted by tangplay on 6/9/2020 12:04:00 PM (view original):
I haven't seen the argument that biological sex isn't real. My understanding was that sex is real but so is gender, which is a social construct. Maybe I'm wrong.

Oh - guitarguy, everything you said can be applied to the right as well. Ready?

If you are the editor of the New York times op-ed section, you better not let any dissenting opinions get through or we will make you resign. We will flood social media with our outrage.

Fox News watchers are outraged that CHRIS WALLACE is allowed to have a show, and get pissy every time Donna Brazille makes an appearance. One side does this far more than the other, especially when what we criticize is fascism.

If you are a star athlete that has given a ton back to your community but you dare question our dogma...we will flood your social media with outrage and threats until you apologize.

Going back to Fox News, Laura Ingraham told BLM players to "shut up and dribble" but is defending Drew Brees' first amendment rights.

If more Black people are killed in one day in Chicago than were killed by police officers in the whole of last year. We will remain silent however.

I really wish you would stop going back to this argument, because it makes you look silly. No one is staying silent about inner city crime, in fact, Democrats nationally are doing FAR more to alleviate this problem than Republicans are. Protesting inner city crime will do nothing, because criminals aren't necessarily accountable to the people. Their job isn't to protect and serve. PLEASE stop making this argument.

But if you tweeted something back in 2012 we don't like, we are coming for you. Welcome to the new liberal world order.

Can you please point me to someone who has had their entire career ruined over a tweet from 2012? Remember when I specifically asked you to stop making claims of this kind without evidence? Also, that's the free market, baby. Live it. Love it.

Our echo chamber will not be penetrated. We are the holy warriors of social justice. If you are not with us, we will get you fired. We will slander your name on Twitter.

Boycotting businesses and getting people fired is also part of the free market; in fact, it's something that right wingers support. I am almost 100% certain that you support these actions as well. I can explain to you why if you want, but hopefully you are smart enough to figure it out on your own. As for echo chambers, research shows that everyone does it, including, I assume, you. This isn't a "left" concept.

I really wish you would think through your points before posting them. Repeating the stuff you saw Andy Ngo post doesn't make for good arguments.

I like you :)

Dixie Chicks suffered for yer sins, Amerika

Thanks, although I just disagreed with you on another thread. FYI - don't quote every post you respond to, because it makes the pages long to scroll through.

"Gender is a construct. To believe differently is to be a bigot."

The above is quoted from our new leftist poster.

They's/thems are telling us all that IF we dare to believe differently than "thems/they's" about what is "gender" than we is a bigot.

That is PRICELESS.

The world is getting nuttier by the minute Cotillion!

Down a couple blocks and over a tad from my place sits a compound wherein there resides a feller who's on ISS for a mental disability.
He has all sorts of crazy notions.

We have round these parts some creatures called Collared Peccary. Usually referred to as Javalinas. Many locals call them pigs but they ain't pigs. They's actually a member of the rodent family.

Anyways Ol Clem, the feller in question, well, one day he smoked just a tad to much of the local weed (they call it tonto kush round here---cause it makes you foolish) and wandered around the local mesquite bog for like 3 days.
Came back believing he was a Pig/Javalina. Crawled around on all fours a-rootin in the dirt, squealing, and farting, and generally acting a durn fool.
Nows, this is a tolerant community and we did tolerate that for a good while, but when he started tearing folks trailer skirting out so's he could sleep underneath their trailers in the shade, well folks started getting, shall we say less tolerant. Buckshot was used on more than one occasion.

Now, folks had always been real tolerant of Clem, what with him being the village idiot and we was all real fond of our village idiot............that was until He started believing he was a hog/Javalina. Now that just went too far for some.

Come the next Javalina season folks decided to put a stop to ol Clem's mistaken notion. You see, they just got tired of tolerating the village idiot.
He took his beliefs too far.
Reality took over. He weren't really a pig. All dressed out..........hell there weren't more than about 28 pounds of good meat.
But his dogs was hungry as he'd stopped feeding 'em in his delusion about his identity.
Reckon they enjoyed the meal.

My advise to anyone who thinks they can fight the reality of Mother Nature is to:

Check your Pants!

While watching boomers and zoomers go at it is funny, you guys agree on the big issues. Focus on that.

Posted by coreander on 6/9/2020 11:57:00 AM (view original):

Posted by laramiebob on 6/9/2020 11:54:00 AM (view original):

Posted by coreander on 6/9/2020 11:46:00 AM (view original):
Biological sex is not real. Gender is a construct. To believe differently is to be a bigot. I do not feel like getting into this anymore with you right now.

Nuts to that!! YOU are real. You can't claim to be spirit yet.
Your biological physique exists. That heart, those lungs, those kidneys, they are REAL!
You can't believe them away. You can't attain the purity of no "body" until this part of your life reality is over.

It isn't that there is NO Gender, No Biology any more than that there is only two sexualities.
There are (many believe) about 7 sexualities. Genders even If you prefer that term.

You can be indeterminate in belief IF you desire to be. You have that right. Nobody's complaining (well some might).
But, you can't be indeterminate in the physical. The parts have specificity. That's NOT your call.

Why would you fight it? Or encourage others to fight that determination that isn't theirs to make?
That makes for an unhealthy spirit and a confused mentality, doesn't it?

I would encourage you to educate yourself! Do you know why people have been angry with JK Rowling these past few days?

Nope. No idea. Who's JK Rowling and why should I care that people are angry with her?
Does she live in my neighborhood?

Posted by Uofa2 on 6/9/2020 12:12:00 PM (view original):
While watching boomers and zoomers go at it is funny, you guys agree on the big issues. Focus on that.

I would have to disagree because I have yet to meet a Boomer (OK Boomer) who has not also been an ardent capitalist.

Posted by laramiebob on 6/9/2020 12:14:00 PM (view original):

Posted by coreander on 6/9/2020 11:57:00 AM (view original):

Posted by laramiebob on 6/9/2020 11:54:00 AM (view original):

Posted by coreander on 6/9/2020 11:46:00 AM (view original):
Biological sex is not real. Gender is a construct. To believe differently is to be a bigot. I do not feel like getting into this anymore with you right now.

Nuts to that!! YOU are real. You can't claim to be spirit yet.
Your biological physique exists. That heart, those lungs, those kidneys, they are REAL!
You can't believe them away. You can't attain the purity of no "body" until this part of your life reality is over.

It isn't that there is NO Gender, No Biology any more than that there is only two sexualities.
There are (many believe) about 7 sexualities. Genders even If you prefer that term.

You can be indeterminate in belief IF you desire to be. You have that right. Nobody's complaining (well some might).
But, you can't be indeterminate in the physical. The parts have specificity. That's NOT your call.

Why would you fight it? Or encourage others to fight that determination that isn't theirs to make?
That makes for an unhealthy spirit and a confused mentality, doesn't it?

I would encourage you to educate yourself! Do you know why people have been angry with JK Rowling these past few days?

Nope. No idea. Who's JK Rowling and why should I care that people are angry with her?
Does she live in my neighborhood?

Um, what? Well, tisk tisk, clearly you need to read more works written by women writers. JK Rowling, of course, wrote Harry Potter. Unfortunately, she has revealed herself to be a transphobe over these past few days so I cannot recommend her books anymore.

We knew J.K. Rowling was a transphobe far before this week.

Harry Potter? Are you jacking me around?

You're kidding right?
I mainly read History and Non-Fiction.
Once in a while I get wild and read Historical Fiction, even a Novel now and then.
At present the writer does happen to be female.
Mary Doria Russell, to be precise.
She creates very full, very complete characters.
I'm enjoying her writing immensely.
The book is titled "Doc"

I've learned more about the actual individuals portrayed (John Holliday (Doc) Morg and Wyatt Earp) than I ever was able to grasp from all the historical and screenplays I've read or viewed. She's fantastic at bringing her characters alive.
Highly Recommend.

May I suggest one simple read for you my inderminate new pen pal.
Read Edward Abbey's "Desert Solitaire"
It will give you a tad of insight into the character of the types of folks that habitate our western environs.
Their reverence for personal independence and scorn for pretension and falseness. Here, things melt down to the simplest.
One just doesn't have much time to question why that things in me pants.
We just kinda roll with it and try to figure out just what to do with the dad blamed thing.
I just wish it didn't take up both me hands.

That is very true. Sadly it was confirmed beyond a shadow of a doubt these past few days. Thank God Daniel Radcliffe has spoken out against her hate.

Meself, I'm a centipede phobe.
Those things scare the bejesus out of me.
They's fast. And they's ain't a bit confused.
Know what they're doing I reckon.
A Sense of Purpose.

Finally something we can agree on :)