He doubled down on it this morning.

If you want, CCCP, we can make it a "no insults and no feelings" discussion. Facts only. Every claim can be backed up. I really want to see how you defend Trump's asylum policy.

Posted by tangplay on 6/22/2020 12:06:00 PM (view original):
If you want, CCCP, we can make it a "no insults and no feelings" discussion. Facts only. Every claim can be backed up. I really want to see how you defend Trump's asylum policy.

Sure, share who you are in real life and we can have a civil discussion.

Posted by tangplay on 6/22/2020 12:03:00 PM (view original):
Well, no. I appreciate you at least responding to the question, but it's telling that you gave to interpret his statement to mean something that he didn't say. I take Trump at his word. What he means is "I want to look better by having less cases, so I told people to slow down testing at the expense of American health to help my election chances." That's the literal interpretation. Either Trump is the worst public speaker of all time, or he is actively working to harm health to help himself.

If you are down, I do want to discuss Trump's immigration policy with you. I'm curious what your thoughts are on it. And your general Trump support as well. I honestly don't see how you could still vote for him after that quote, and everything else he has done.

I am an Independent. I like his economic, military, borders, pro Israel policies. I am not sure what Biden's policies are as he is incoherent and hiding in his basement. Hence I will be voting for Trump. I also dislike the Defund the Police rhetoric. I guess I lose my voting privileges for 10 yrs.

Posted by cccp1014 on 6/22/2020 12:10:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 6/22/2020 12:06:00 PM (view original):
If you want, CCCP, we can make it a "no insults and no feelings" discussion. Facts only. Every claim can be backed up. I really want to see how you defend Trump's asylum policy.

Sure, share who you are in real life and we can have a civil discussion.

I feel the need to keep some level of anonymity. That said, you know my general age, you know I live in Kansas, you know my beliefs. What else do you need to know?

Posted by cccp1014 on 6/22/2020 12:13:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 6/22/2020 12:03:00 PM (view original):
Well, no. I appreciate you at least responding to the question, but it's telling that you gave to interpret his statement to mean something that he didn't say. I take Trump at his word. What he means is "I want to look better by having less cases, so I told people to slow down testing at the expense of American health to help my election chances." That's the literal interpretation. Either Trump is the worst public speaker of all time, or he is actively working to harm health to help himself.

If you are down, I do want to discuss Trump's immigration policy with you. I'm curious what your thoughts are on it. And your general Trump support as well. I honestly don't see how you could still vote for him after that quote, and everything else he has done.

I am an Independent. I like his economic, military, borders, pro Israel policies. I am not sure what Biden's policies are as he is incoherent and hiding in his basement. Hence I will be voting for Trump. I also dislike the Defund the Police rhetoric. I guess I lose my voting privileges for 10 yrs.

Let's run through these, OK? Starting with borders. What is your opinion on Trump changing asylum policy to put the kids in cages?

(also since this is a Trump v Biden debate, bringing up defunding the police and other leftist points is irrelevant. I don't think it matters because Biden doesn't support those positions)

Posted by tangplay on 6/22/2020 12:22:00 PM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 6/22/2020 12:10:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 6/22/2020 12:06:00 PM (view original):
If you want, CCCP, we can make it a "no insults and no feelings" discussion. Facts only. Every claim can be backed up. I really want to see how you defend Trump's asylum policy.

Sure, share who you are in real life and we can have a civil discussion.

I feel the need to keep some level of anonymity. That said, you know my general age, you know I live in Kansas, you know my beliefs. What else do you need to know?

You know who I am so it only seems fair.

If Biden doesn't support defunding the police then he is really just a Republican in disguise. But, I think, many of us already knew that. This country will not be at peace, will not be free of systemic racism until we have REAL progressive policy implemented. Biden must show he supports Black Lives Matter for more than just a photo-op. Defund the police. No ifs, ands, or buts. This police state must end and if Biden isn't willing to fight it, myself and many others will not vote for him.

Posted by tangplay on 6/22/2020 12:23:00 PM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 6/22/2020 12:13:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 6/22/2020 12:03:00 PM (view original):
Well, no. I appreciate you at least responding to the question, but it's telling that you gave to interpret his statement to mean something that he didn't say. I take Trump at his word. What he means is "I want to look better by having less cases, so I told people to slow down testing at the expense of American health to help my election chances." That's the literal interpretation. Either Trump is the worst public speaker of all time, or he is actively working to harm health to help himself.

If you are down, I do want to discuss Trump's immigration policy with you. I'm curious what your thoughts are on it. And your general Trump support as well. I honestly don't see how you could still vote for him after that quote, and everything else he has done.

I am an Independent. I like his economic, military, borders, pro Israel policies. I am not sure what Biden's policies are as he is incoherent and hiding in his basement. Hence I will be voting for Trump. I also dislike the Defund the Police rhetoric. I guess I lose my voting privileges for 10 yrs.

Let's run through these, OK? Starting with borders. What is your opinion on Trump changing asylum policy to put the kids in cages?

(also since this is a Trump v Biden debate, bringing up defunding the police and other leftist points is irrelevant. I don't think it matters because Biden doesn't support those positions)

Weren't kids already in cages? I think we need to be as strict as humanely possibly and "humanely" is subjective. What has been happening for the past 30+ years has not worked. I am far from an expert on border security but given concerns with the virus and any other viruses that may come over we should be a vigilant as possible. I am not sure what Biden supports. He is hiding in his basement. I would have voted for Tulsi Gabbard. I actually liked Andrew Yang too. You see me as a Trump sycophant. Which is fine.

This is as far as I take this until you share your identity.

Posted by cccp1014 on 6/22/2020 12:33:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 6/22/2020 12:22:00 PM (view original):

Posted by cccp1014 on 6/22/2020 12:10:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tangplay on 6/22/2020 12:06:00 PM (view original):
If you want, CCCP, we can make it a "no insults and no feelings" discussion. Facts only. Every claim can be backed up. I really want to see how you defend Trump's asylum policy.

Sure, share who you are in real life and we can have a civil discussion.

I feel the need to keep some level of anonymity. That said, you know my general age, you know I live in Kansas, you know my beliefs. What else do you need to know?

You know who I am so it only seems fair.

How will sharing my name benefit the conversation in any way? I don't care what your name is; I care what you believe.

I was just blocked and now unblocked? Odd.

Giving me the name will determine if you are who you say you are. I'll keep it confidential.

I don't know why you come into the forums and immediately demand to know my name. Seems a bit strange.

Posted by coreander on 6/22/2020 12:34:00 PM (view original):
If Biden doesn't support defunding the police then he is really just a Republican in disguise. But, I think, many of us already knew that. This country will not be at peace, will not be free of systemic racism until we have REAL progressive policy implemented. Biden must show he supports Black Lives Matter for more than just a photo-op. Defund the police. No ifs, ands, or buts. This police state must end and if Biden isn't willing to fight it, myself and many others will not vote for him.

If Biden chooses a progressive VP I will certainly feel a lot better about him as a candidate, I should add.

Posted by tangplay on 6/22/2020 12:57:00 PM (view original):
I don't know why you come into the forums and immediately demand to know my name. Seems a bit strange.

I didn't. You said you wanted a clean debate, no insults. I don't really want to debate you as it is a waste of time.

I think we can both learn a lot. I also have not insulted you at all. I'm sorry if it came across that way.