I lost the final player I was going after, and am looking to sign one of these 2 guys. I had no scouting money left, so I am going off their Level 1 ratings.

https://www.whatifsports.com/hd/RecruitProfile/Ratings.aspx?rid=5051203

https://www.whatifsports.com/hd/RecruitProfile/Ratings.aspx?rid=5051361

Looks like it basically comes down to B vs C Defense and C vs A Work Ethic.

I feel like with the limited amount of info we have to go off of, you gotta go A work Ethic over C work Ethic every time.

Total shot in the dark obviously, but an A work ethic is worth a shot.

Posted by Camjam on 7/6/2020 12:29:00 PM (view original):
I lost the final player I was going after, and am looking to sign one of these 2 guys. I had no scouting money left, so I am going off their Level 1 ratings.

https://www.whatifsports.com/hd/RecruitProfile/Ratings.aspx?rid=5051203

https://www.whatifsports.com/hd/RecruitProfile/Ratings.aspx?rid=5051361

Looks like it basically comes down to B vs C Defense and C vs A Work Ethic.

I personally wouldn’t sign someone only level 1 scouted. I would much rather take the walk-on and Get that scholarship next season. A lot of unknowns with level 1 scouting. It’s a lot easier to never play a walkon and move on next year than it is to have a bad recruit you signed for 4 years.

Posted by Rolltrees15 on 7/6/2020 1:04:00 PM (view original):

Posted by Camjam on 7/6/2020 12:29:00 PM (view original):
I lost the final player I was going after, and am looking to sign one of these 2 guys. I had no scouting money left, so I am going off their Level 1 ratings.

https://www.whatifsports.com/hd/RecruitProfile/Ratings.aspx?rid=5051203

https://www.whatifsports.com/hd/RecruitProfile/Ratings.aspx?rid=5051361

Looks like it basically comes down to B vs C Defense and C vs A Work Ethic.

I personally wouldn’t sign someone only level 1 scouted. I would much rather take the walk-on and Get that scholarship next season. A lot of unknowns with level 1 scouting. It’s a lot easier to never play a walkon and move on next year than it is to have a bad recruit you signed for 4 years.

i tend to agree with this, especially after you consider the odds that the player is good AND that someone else didn't already take him. its a lot less likely hes good than if you scouted a random level 1 -> 4 at the start of recruiting, and we all know the odds are pretty bad even then. most players suck and are worse than walkons (not by talent - but by impact on the program, they are the lesser of 2 evils). so take that starting case and throw on top, most of the good players have already been signed, and... definitely the walkon is the safer play. unless you already will have more than 3 without this guy, then maybe sign the guy and just cut him when he sucks.

Yeah, if you can survive with a walk-on, go walk-on. My second year back at DePauw in Knight I signed a kid that was only level 2 scouted who was mostly C's across the board.

He came in mostly orange and red and while he was ~50 in most of the cores he had sub-30 defense and sub-30 athleticism as a guard so I wound up cutting him after 1 year of him averaging more turnovers than points per game off the bench.

Walk on. Gotta have control of your team. Rather than throwing darts. If you had two players at L3 to pick from, I'd take that chance. But not L1

I throw darts all the time. But only when the considering list hints that they’ll be a good player. You’ve got to find coaches you trust and rely on them. Let me send some of the ones that have fallen.

Posted by cubcub113 on 7/6/2020 9:05:00 PM (view original):
I throw darts all the time. But only when the considering list hints that they’ll be a good player. You’ve got to find coaches you trust and rely on them. Let me send some of the ones that have fallen.

Agreed. It really depends on how badly you need another player. In my D2 rebuild I offered this guy a start and a scholarship at level 1 based on the teams on his considering list: https://imgur.com/a/2oLy2Lo

I generally don't recommend signing players at level 1 unless you are absolutely desperate. It can be done though if you know what to look for in the considering list.

Posted by mrslam34 on 7/6/2020 9:14:00 PM (view original):

Posted by cubcub113 on 7/6/2020 9:05:00 PM (view original):
I throw darts all the time. But only when the considering list hints that they’ll be a good player. You’ve got to find coaches you trust and rely on them. Let me send some of the ones that have fallen.

Agreed. It really depends on how badly you need another player. In my D2 rebuild I offered this guy a start and a scholarship at level 1 based on the teams on his considering list: https://imgur.com/a/2oLy2Lo

I generally don't recommend signing players at level 1 unless you are absolutely desperate. It can be done though if you know what to look for in the considering list.

One thing I like to look for on a considering list is you.... seriously. As a rule, if an elite coach 2 D1 letter grades above you puts an AP on a guy.... I'll take him at level 1 10 times out of 10.

Just signed this fool Benito Quiroz from Spain at lvl1 from D+ D1. B+ mrslam and B+ pallas both passed up on this guy (both took classes with pretty much only final four level studs). 100 ath 65 sp 47 red 100 de 35 sb 53+ lp 84+ per 78 bh 59 pa 95 sta looks a lot like a 3 I would pass up shooting for a Final Four but one that I'm really happy to have at D+. I probably got *slightly* lucky on that one... but I mean, what are the chances that he wasn't takable at D+?

Best player at Idaho State was Dennis Stone. I signed him lvl1 out of Hawaii. Chapel (who, again, was 2 letter grades above me and an elite coach recruiting F4 level players--he would make an E8 with the class he was recruiting in Stone's year) actually offered a ship to Stone before pulling it back. If chap can offer a ship to a guy at B+, I don't need to know any more. Again, I got pretty lucky on this one. He was *ridiculous* for D+. Chap site mailed telling me he regretted not taking him. It was probably *really* close for him which makes it an obvious choice for me.

More of a desperate situation, all of my rebounding big options feel through at Bloomfield the last session and this guy had about 4-5 elite DIIIs on him (projected D2 recruit). Signed him at lvl1 with F WE, assuming elite DIIIs wouldn't be on a guy with really low WE. Obviously a total DIII stud (hence the high interest) and a servicable DII board snatcher.

Just signed another big at Bloomfield at Lvl1. He was from 2500 miles away and I found him last day of RS1. Projected D2 guy that sportsbulls was on from 2500 miles away from D3 fighting an A+ D3 only 900 miles away. What's the chance he isn't a fuckin' D3 stud if one of the best D3 coaches in the game is willing to wage long-distance war for him.

78 ath 25 sp 86 reb 98 de 84+ sb 52 lp 86+ sta is pretty decent for D2. I was hoping he'd have green LP but I think I'll survive.

Finally, I will sign pretty much any Top50 guy (in an average gen) with B physical / B defense no questions asked at C+ or worse. As you get higher prestige you have to be a little more careful. I signed this guy from far away at Lvl2 at B and he was obviously as dud of a 5 star as you can get, but he's still was top30 for a reason. Another relative fail was spending my whole budget on this stud looking lvl1 5 star only to learn he has exercise-induced asthma and couldn't give me more than 20 MPG. I've never struggled more to hit a 25 MPG promise, my god. I've learned its prudent to scout every top100 guy up to Lvl2 if you're doing my wide net strat and everyone within your 1000 (some people only do 750) to lvl4. Signing preference has to be a major point of my attack, and I need to work on that.