Posted by robusk on 8/9/2020 12:16:00 AM (view original):
Between amerk's divorced guy manifestos, cmc writing 20 page posts the appear to be in Latin, and bds9992 + ashamael talking about some made up thing I have never heard of....... I have no idea what is happening in this thread right now.

But RL is rocking.

Posted by cmcafeeky on 8/9/2020 12:06:00 AM (view original):

Posted by bds9992 on 8/8/2020 11:45:00 PM (view original):
honestly I can't watch basketball in 2020. I tried. I watched a bit of Suns-Heat today. The possessions are so damn fast. You don't even have time to play defense. They're probably averaging one pass. If they caught the defense by surprise, who cares? David Aldridge said it best on the Rich Eisen show: "85-84 could be a hell of a game if they really hate each other and every possession is a battle. It's not just about shot efficiency all the time! Part of why older people came to love the NBA was because the competition was so visceral and real."

I will accept my ok boomer's now

I think the NBA would benefit, or might be even MORE interesting,
if somewhat recent rule changes hadn't forced the league into fewer styles of play, or a drastic change in the style of play.
It was somewhat of a seismic shift -

I cant say the current style is better or worse than what we witnessed in the 80s - but it is different.
People can say men were men in the 80's and were hard nosed (yes) -
or now: "You have to have skills and shooting is at a premium" (yes) -
It is refreshing to see better shooting.

I was never a huge fan of the isolation clear outs where they would throw the ball to the block
and dribble, push back - dribble shove, dribble dribble- double team...
And now the big man, the dominant giant, is a dinosaur. Which is a shame.

I think ideally, I would enjoy the league even MORE if a plethora of styles could be successful.
Instead, we see what you described as about the only style that can succeed.

Wouldn't it be cool if the league had many different types and styles of play that COULD succeed?

That is one of the charms of college and high school basketball -
you'r able to still see many different styles and player types.
and many old strategies are still utilized-

Posted by bds9992 on 8/8/2020 11:59:00 PM (view original):
Raise your hand if you're surprised that I think Ayton could be better than Doncic.

*crickets*

Posted by amerk1180 on 8/9/2020 12:18:00 AM (view original):

Posted by dBKC on 8/9/2020 12:03:00 AM (view original):

Posted by amerk1180 on 8/8/2020 11:58:00 PM (view original):
LOL, OK cmac, bring it on! Shouldn't be that hard cuz my team in that league sucks (like most of my teams lol). It's fine, I'll take on ANOTHER enemy now...why not? I am NOT taking back my robusk *** kiss comment!

You know what's really funny about this whole thing? If DH, robusk, ashemael, dBKC, tarheel, longtallbrad, benhoidal, jhsukow, or any of the other "Kool Kids" had said everything I said today, everyone else would be like, "Oh man, you're so right! What do we all do about these SLACKERS??? This is absolutely INEXCUSABLE!" I say it and suddenly, it's "kum by yah, it's ok, no problem, why are you so bothered by this, we can wait until March to finish this draft, you are such an impatient *******!"

Funny but so true!

Dude literally everyone here has agreed with you and shared your frustration. The problem is we can’t do anything about it.

Literally EVERYONE??? I'd love some examples. I must have missed them all. So far, jpevans31 is the ONLY one who has even SLIGHTLY agreed with me and my frustrations. Everyone else has pretty much said I'm being an *******!

Oh, and oooooh, I've ****** off the mighty assemael. Gee, I should be cowering at your knees ash and chanting "I'm not worthy, I'm not worthy!" shouldn't I?Well you can kiss my other cheek (whichever one robusk isn't on)! F U 2. And all of you can enjoy a nice slow Sunday one you get to my pick.

Posted by dh555 on 8/9/2020 12:16:00 AM (view original):

Posted by bds9992 on 8/8/2020 11:59:00 PM (view original):
Raise your hand if you're surprised that I think Ayton could be better than Doncic.

*crickets*

nah you dont even believe that

but i did hear zach lowe say the other day that ayton made a lot of progress on defense this year...if he can anchor that defense the suns are gonna get interesting...i wish the sixers had kept mikal bridges - loved him at nova

Posted by robusk on 8/9/2020 12:20:00 AM (view original):

Posted by bds9992 on 8/8/2020 11:59:00 PM (view original):
Raise your hand if you're surprised that I think Ayton could be better than Doncic.

*crickets*

This take is soooooooooooooooooooooooo bad. If this is how your basketball brain works, your teams make way more sense to me now.

Posted by dh555 on 8/9/2020 12:20:00 AM (view original):

Posted by cmcafeeky on 8/9/2020 12:06:00 AM (view original):

Posted by bds9992 on 8/8/2020 11:45:00 PM (view original):
honestly I can't watch basketball in 2020. I tried. I watched a bit of Suns-Heat today. The possessions are so damn fast. You don't even have time to play defense. They're probably averaging one pass. If they caught the defense by surprise, who cares? David Aldridge said it best on the Rich Eisen show: "85-84 could be a hell of a game if they really hate each other and every possession is a battle. It's not just about shot efficiency all the time! Part of why older people came to love the NBA was because the competition was so visceral and real."

I will accept my ok boomer's now

I think the NBA would benefit, or might be even MORE interesting,
if somewhat recent rule changes hadn't forced the league into fewer styles of play, or a drastic change in the style of play.
It was somewhat of a seismic shift -

I cant say the current style is better or worse than what we witnessed in the 80s - but it is different.
People can say men were men in the 80's and were hard nosed (yes) -
or now: "You have to have skills and shooting is at a premium" (yes) -
It is refreshing to see better shooting.

I was never a huge fan of the isolation clear outs where they would throw the ball to the block
and dribble, push back - dribble shove, dribble dribble- double team...
And now the big man, the dominant giant, is a dinosaur. Which is a shame.

I think ideally, I would enjoy the league even MORE if a plethora of styles could be successful.
Instead, we see what you described as about the only style that can succeed.

Wouldn't it be cool if the league had many different types and styles of play that COULD succeed?

That is one of the charms of college and high school basketball -
you'r able to still see many different styles and player types.
and many old strategies are still utilized-

there is still one dominant giant left......

Posted by bds9992 on 8/9/2020 12:22:00 AM (view original):

Posted by robusk on 8/9/2020 12:20:00 AM (view original):

Posted by bds9992 on 8/8/2020 11:59:00 PM (view original):
Raise your hand if you're surprised that I think Ayton could be better than Doncic.

*crickets*

This take is soooooooooooooooooooooooo bad. If this is how your basketball brain works, your teams make way more sense to me now.

I am not at all surprised at your reaction, and this is why I don't look at your posts anymore.

We're like oil and water, Rob. Face it.

Posted by bds9992 on 8/9/2020 12:20:00 AM (view original):

Posted by dh555 on 8/9/2020 12:16:00 AM (view original):

Posted by bds9992 on 8/8/2020 11:59:00 PM (view original):
Raise your hand if you're surprised that I think Ayton could be better than Doncic.

*crickets*

nah you dont even believe that

but i did hear zach lowe say the other day that ayton made a lot of progress on defense this year...if he can anchor that defense the suns are gonna get interesting...i wish the sixers had kept mikal bridges - loved him at nova

I believe it. His touch, his jump shot, his strength, athleticism, his size and speed. He really has it all. Imagine if Dwight could hit jumpers from the elbow. Honestly, I think Doncic is 6'7" Harden and I'll believe that until proven otherwise.

With that said, please let me have it

Posted by dh555 on 8/9/2020 12:09:00 AM (view original):

Posted by amerk1180 on 8/8/2020 11:58:00 PM (view original):
LOL, OK cmac, bring it on! Shouldn't be that hard cuz my team in that league sucks (like most of my teams lol). It's fine, I'll take on ANOTHER enemy now...why not? I am NOT taking back my robusk *** kiss comment!

You know what's really funny about this whole thing? If DH, robusk, ashemael, dBKC, tarheel, longtallbrad, benhoidal, jhsukow, or any of the other "Kool Kids" had said everything I said today, everyone else would be like, "Oh man, you're so right! What do we all do about these SLACKERS??? This is absolutely INEXCUSABLE!" I say it and suddenly, it's "kum by yah, it's ok, no problem, why are you so bothered by this, we can wait until March to finish this draft, you are such an impatient *******!"

Funny but so true!

youre not the first owner ive dealt with complaining about late owners...and you wont be the last

its not personal...why do you want to be a victim so bad

i like being in leagues with you...others do too im sure...but right now your the guy in the long line at the super market with only one open register, complaining loudly to everyone how ridiculous this is, yelling at the manager to make the line go faster...while everyone else just rolls their eyes and patiently waits

Posted by bds9992 on 8/9/2020 12:20:00 AM (view original):

Posted by dh555 on 8/9/2020 12:16:00 AM (view original):

Posted by bds9992 on 8/8/2020 11:59:00 PM (view original):
Raise your hand if you're surprised that I think Ayton could be better than Doncic.

*crickets*

nah you dont even believe that

but i did hear zach lowe say the other day that ayton made a lot of progress on defense this year...if he can anchor that defense the suns are gonna get interesting...i wish the sixers had kept mikal bridges - loved him at nova

I believe it. His touch, his jump shot, his strength, athleticism, his size and speed. He really has it all. Imagine if Dwight could hit jumpers from the elbow. Honestly, I think Doncic is 6'7" Harden and I'll believe that until proven otherwise.

With that said, please let me have it

Posted by ashamael on 8/9/2020 12:23:00 AM (view original):

Posted by bds9992 on 8/9/2020 12:22:00 AM (view original):

Posted by robusk on 8/9/2020 12:20:00 AM (view original):

Posted by bds9992 on 8/8/2020 11:59:00 PM (view original):
Raise your hand if you're surprised that I think Ayton could be better than Doncic.

*crickets*

This take is soooooooooooooooooooooooo bad. If this is how your basketball brain works, your teams make way more sense to me now.

I am not at all surprised at your reaction, and this is why I don't look at your posts anymore.

We're like oil and water, Rob. Face it.

how'd you quote this & respond to it without looking at it?!

Oh. My. God. You're the greatest forum poster in the history of the internet!

Posted by dh555 on 8/9/2020 12:24:00 AM (view original):

Posted by bds9992 on 8/9/2020 12:20:00 AM (view original):

Posted by dh555 on 8/9/2020 12:16:00 AM (view original):

Posted by bds9992 on 8/8/2020 11:59:00 PM (view original):
Raise your hand if you're surprised that I think Ayton could be better than Doncic.

*crickets*

nah you dont even believe that

but i did hear zach lowe say the other day that ayton made a lot of progress on defense this year...if he can anchor that defense the suns are gonna get interesting...i wish the sixers had kept mikal bridges - loved him at nova

I believe it. His touch, his jump shot, his strength, athleticism, his size and speed. He really has it all. Imagine if Dwight could hit jumpers from the elbow. Honestly, I think Doncic is 6'7" Harden and I'll believe that until proven otherwise.

With that said, please let me have it

but harden is a top 10 player and probably a top 5 sg of all time...and luka has a chance to be even better

Posted by robusk on 8/9/2020 12:25:00 AM (view original):
I do think Ayton will be good. But I think his ceiling is like Bob Lanier. I think Doncic's ceiling is like approaching LeBron levels if he gets his mind and body right.