Developing prospects Topic

Do you play your decent prospects every single game in the minors to develop them as much as possible? Or do you look at fatigue and rest them at some point? I don't know if fatigue slows down improvement or increases injury chances so I have always taken them out when they get too tired - but is that the wrong approach? Thanks!
8/13/2020 12:01 PM
By the way, this question applies to pitching prospects, too. Do you have a reliever prospect throw 150 innings just to get maximal improvement, or does that increase the chance of major injury?
8/13/2020 12:02 PM
I just try to not let them play below 100% I do this for all my players at the ml level as well. At this stage in the game injuries seem to be more often.
8/13/2020 1:11 PM
I try to get the position players and pitchers into every game. I have the position players as bench guys that come in only after the 5th inning so they play in nearly every game, but only half the game. My "real" pitching prospects are set to 5 to 15 pitches per game so they get in as many games as possible.
8/13/2020 5:55 PM
Yep, with tlowster. Game appearances is what matters, not how many innings. All my studs play in the maximum number of games but as rest replacements or SuA to reduce chance of injury (except for playoffs where they start to increase the chance of getting in as many playoff games as possible). If your prospect gets injured it's a double whammy, you not only lose the ratings to injury but also lose the ratings due to development games missed.
8/14/2020 11:59 AM
Posted by tlowster on 8/13/2020 5:55:00 PM (view original):
I try to get the position players and pitchers into every game. I have the position players as bench guys that come in only after the 5th inning so they play in nearly every game, but only half the game. My "real" pitching prospects are set to 5 to 15 pitches per game so they get in as many games as possible.
how are your defensive subs and use player rest set to achieve this? (position players)
8/14/2020 2:17 PM
Posted by dschang on 8/14/2020 2:17:00 PM (view original):
Posted by tlowster on 8/13/2020 5:55:00 PM (view original):
I try to get the position players and pitchers into every game. I have the position players as bench guys that come in only after the 5th inning so they play in nearly every game, but only half the game. My "real" pitching prospects are set to 5 to 15 pitches per game so they get in as many games as possible.
how are your defensive subs and use player rest set to achieve this? (position players)
Set Minor league Manager Settings to Use Player Rest winning/losing 1 run in the 5th, save to minor league levels only
8/14/2020 3:45 PM
Posted by 2xRedRaider on 8/14/2020 3:45:00 PM (view original):
Posted by dschang on 8/14/2020 2:17:00 PM (view original):
Posted by tlowster on 8/13/2020 5:55:00 PM (view original):
I try to get the position players and pitchers into every game. I have the position players as bench guys that come in only after the 5th inning so they play in nearly every game, but only half the game. My "real" pitching prospects are set to 5 to 15 pitches per game so they get in as many games as possible.
how are your defensive subs and use player rest set to achieve this? (position players)
Set Minor league Manager Settings to Use Player Rest winning/losing 1 run in the 5th, save to minor league levels only
*Bingo
8/14/2020 7:52 PM
So its sounds like positional depth charts need to be manually set at every level for prospects as well.

If he setting is 5th inning pull is there much difference in having the prospect set as a starter?
8/14/2020 11:38 PM
Posted by dschang on 8/14/2020 11:38:00 PM (view original):
So its sounds like positional depth charts need to be manually set at every level for prospects as well.

If he setting is 5th inning pull is there much difference in having the prospect set as a starter?
Not much difference. In fact, if he is starting, he will play in every game. If he is coming off the bench, there is a chance he'll miss games due to having tie-games past the 5th inning that turn into walk off games. I just do the off-the-bench thing because I don't always have my setting as the 5th inning. I change it depending on the durability of my starters. If I have starters that have a low durability, I will have the rest set to the 5th inning. If i have starters that have a 75+ durability, then I have rest set to the 6th or 7th inning. This helps in two ways -- 1. it keeps guys from having fatigue, but still develops them; 2. If you have an injury at the MLB level and you need to call up one of the prospects for emergency purposes, they are not going to be gassed due to being overplayed in the minors.

You can do the minor league settings at the beginning of the season. It takes a bit of time, but once you do it, you don't have to do much, it takes care of itself.

Quick edit: the above post was in a position player context as opposed to pitching.
8/16/2020 5:58 PM (edited)
Posted by tlowster on 8/13/2020 5:55:00 PM (view original):
I try to get the position players and pitchers into every game. I have the position players as bench guys that come in only after the 5th inning so they play in nearly every game, but only half the game. My "real" pitching prospects are set to 5 to 15 pitches per game so they get in as many games as possible.
I have a follow up question about the pitching: do you set even SP prospects as SU-A guys with pitch counts of 5-15 per game? Or do you just use RP prospects that way and have SP prospects with a low pitch count and high pull rating in the rotation?
8/15/2020 9:02 PM
Posted by bruinsfan911 on 8/15/2020 9:02:00 PM (view original):
Posted by tlowster on 8/13/2020 5:55:00 PM (view original):
I try to get the position players and pitchers into every game. I have the position players as bench guys that come in only after the 5th inning so they play in nearly every game, but only half the game. My "real" pitching prospects are set to 5 to 15 pitches per game so they get in as many games as possible.
I have a follow up question about the pitching: do you set even SP prospects as SU-A guys with pitch counts of 5-15 per game? Or do you just use RP prospects that way and have SP prospects with a low pitch count and high pull rating in the rotation?
If they are a true prospect, they are in my bullpen on a low pitch count even if they are starting pitchers.
8/15/2020 9:57 PM
Well I read this thread last night and was thinking about how to implement the strategy. Guess what happened in the AM cycle.....a huge injury to my best relief prospect that saw him loose 7 points.
8/16/2020 12:05 PM
Posted by tlowster on 8/15/2020 9:57:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bruinsfan911 on 8/15/2020 9:02:00 PM (view original):
Posted by tlowster on 8/13/2020 5:55:00 PM (view original):
I try to get the position players and pitchers into every game. I have the position players as bench guys that come in only after the 5th inning so they play in nearly every game, but only half the game. My "real" pitching prospects are set to 5 to 15 pitches per game so they get in as many games as possible.
I have a follow up question about the pitching: do you set even SP prospects as SU-A guys with pitch counts of 5-15 per game? Or do you just use RP prospects that way and have SP prospects with a low pitch count and high pull rating in the rotation?
If they are a true prospect, they are in my bullpen on a low pitch count even if they are starting pitchers.
Makes sense...I tend to sort my minor leaguers into three categories: future ML starters, AAAA guys and/or future ML role players and career minor leaguers. Would you consider giving the AAAA types starts/higher pitch counts or do you typically have them in your bullpen and coming off the bench too?
8/16/2020 2:29 PM
Posted by bigbucks07 on 8/16/2020 12:05:00 PM (view original):
Well I read this thread last night and was thinking about how to implement the strategy. Guess what happened in the AM cycle.....a huge injury to my best relief prospect that saw him loose 7 points.
Yep. This strategy minimizes the chance of injury, but does not guarantee that injuries won't occur. If you think about it, the longer a player is playing in a game, the more chance he has to get injured. This strategy has the players playing less time so in theory, they should get injured less frequently. However, I still have had some major bad luck in one of my six Worlds (Moneyball). I have had about five high picks/high dollar Intl prospects go down in the last three seasons, it is frustrating. However, like I wrote above, the strategy minimizes injuries as opposed to eliminating them.
8/16/2020 5:33 PM
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