Testing Pitchers fatigue! Full!! Topic

League#: MLB129615

Hello all. I am going to be starting the next league under the TWISL (Testing What If Sports League) brand, diving into pitcher fatigue.

As many may know if you've seen recent teams in the OL's, I've been trying to test a lot of different things about the sim. My two favorite categories right now are A++ Range and Pitcher fatigue (this team is testing both at once). In future seasons, I want to explore the different effects between in game fatigue, recent activity fatigue, and “stamina” fatigue (based on total # of pitches). For this league, I want to focus on the latter of the three, stamina fatigue.

Here's how it will play out:
16 teams: 4/4/4/4 split
Salary: $85 million
AAA: No
WW: No
Clones: No
Trades: No
DH: No


BALLPARK: Whatifsports Park (neutral) - In order to control for the best results, I want to use a neutral park here. Though in theory, a negative hit ballpark would be more beneficial to teams running the fatigue test outside of this experiment.

ALIGNMENT: There will be two different "groups" for the test. Group A (Control) and Group B (Test), 8 teams each. Each league will have 4 of each group, each division will have 2 of each group.

TEAM COMPOSITION:

Pitching:
All Group A (Control) teams and Group B (Test) teams will roster identical pitching staffs with one exception; the Test teams will remove 1994 Brett Saberhagen from their roster. This will leave all Control teams with 1355IP and all Test teams with 1100IP. Control teams must employ a 4-man rotation of Maddux, Saberhagen, Halladay, and Lee, while the Test teams must employ a 3-man rotation of Maddux, Halladay, and Lee. In order to combat early season fatigue, you may start whomever you like the first two games, but rotations need to be set after that. For Control teams, I would like your autorest to be between 90%-95%, for Test teams, I would like your autorest to be between 70%-75%. Any micro managing/bullpen setup is up to the individual owner (If you wanna give Fister a spot start here and there to keep your guys from fatiguing too quickly, you can do so - just please consider the theme goals as you do so)
Role Player T W-L-S IP/162 ERA OAV WHIP K/9 BB/9 HR/9 K-BB Salary
SP 1996 Greg Maddux R 15-11-0 245 2.72 0.241 1.03 6.32 1.03 0.4 172-28 $8,407,161
SP/RP 2011 Roy Halladay R 19-6-0 234 2.35 0.239 1.04 8.47 1.35 0.39 220-35 $7,857,245
SP/RP 2010 Cliff Lee L 12-9-2000 212 3.18 0.24 1 7.84 0.76 0.68 185-18 $6,812,030
SP/RP 1994 Bret Saberhagen R 14-4-0 255 2.74 0.254 1.03 7.26 0.66 0.66 143-13 $7,875,590
SP/RP 2011 Doug Fister R 8-1-2000 70 1.79 0.206 0.84 7.29 0.64 0.51 57-5 $3,018,490
SP/RP 2015 Alex Wilson R 3-3-2002 70 2.19 0.238 1.03 4.89 1.41 0.64 38-11 $1,866,761
SP/RP 2014 Scott Atchison R 6-0-2 72 2.75 0.227 1.03 6.13 1.75 0.5 49-14 $2,110,181
SP/RP 2002 Mariano Rivera R 1-4-28 47 2.74 0.203 1 8.02 2.15 0.59 41-11 $1,612,112
SP/RP 2017 Sean Doolittle L 2-0-24 51 2.81 0.185 0.86 10.87 1.75 0.88 62-10 $2,092,862
SP/RP 1912 Carl Weilman L 2-4-2001 51 2.79 0.227 0.93 4.47 0.56 0 24-3 $1,995,364
SP/RP 2008 Billy Wagner L 2000-1-27 47 2.3 0.185 0.89 9.96 1.91 0.77 52-10 $1,920,067


Offense: This is where it gets really interesting. You get to select whatever offense you want. Test teams will have an additional $7,875,590 due to cutting Saberhagen. The only rule is that you may not add another pitcher to your roster. Improve your offense however you like, but don't change the pitching staff.

GOALS: Here are the things I'd like this league to be able to contribute to:
  • Increase our understanding of pitchers fatigue - specifically as it relates to the number of pitches thrown.
  • How does performance decline at different levels of fatigue? 100%-90%, 90%-80%, 80%-70%, etc.
  • Gain understanding about which stats are most impacted by fatigue.
  • How big of an advantage (if any) do teams without fatigue have over teams with fatigue?
  • Have fun!

SIGNUP:

Group A (Control)

1. Redcped
2. Contrarian23
3. Jfranco77
4. Jdh34
5. Just4me
6. Combalt
7. Cuppie1
8.


Group B (Fatigue/Test)
1. Chargingryno
2. Just4me
3. Gnrlmils75
4. Davidhahn
5. Combalt
6. Lewb
7. Sjh0825
8. Contrarian23

I will be running one of the Test teams. There are a lot of great owners on this site, but I do want to say - don't sign up for a Test team unless you're committed to running it and paying attention to it. It will require more micromanaging than most other teams and one team that gets abandoned and left for a death spiral could threaten the integrity of the entire league.

Sitemail list: Chargingryno, Contrarian23, Just4me, redcped, lewb, gnrlmils75, davidhahn, jfranco77, combalt, Jdh34, sjh0825, Cuppie1
9/26/2020 10:28 PM (edited)
Fatigue team for me
8/27/2020 11:44 PM
Welcome! I knew you’d wanna be a fatigue team! :)
8/28/2020 12:04 AM
I'm curious to learn more, but I don't feel ready to handle the low fatigue group just yet. So I'll take a Control team. A few questions:

Is the autorest for the Control group for the rotation only, or for all pitchers?

Does it matter if boxes are checked for starters to be used in relief?

Any PC restrictions for the Control group?
8/28/2020 12:35 AM
Posted by redcped on 8/28/2020 12:35:00 AM (view original):
I'm curious to learn more, but I don't feel ready to handle the low fatigue group just yet. So I'll take a Control team. A few questions:

Is the autorest for the Control group for the rotation only, or for all pitchers?

Does it matter if boxes are checked for starters to be used in relief?

Any PC restrictions for the Control group?
Good questions.

1. Rotation only. Bullpen can be used as needed,

2. No, check em if you want, but no requirement to do so.

3. No PC restrictions.
8/28/2020 12:46 AM
You did say whatever offense, so I presume Clones are OK?
8/28/2020 12:57 AM
Posted by redcped on 8/28/2020 12:57:00 AM (view original):
You did say whatever offense, so I presume Clones are OK?
Yeah if you want clones I don’t see how that’ll effect the goals of the theme at all
8/28/2020 1:14 AM
I haven't built the offense yet, but I just like to know what's on the table. Should be a good experiment.
8/28/2020 1:33 AM
I agree. Been wanting to put something together for awhile
8/28/2020 10:23 AM
Ever wonder what the difference is between a starter at 100% and 90%? Come in and let’s try to get some answers!
8/28/2020 12:49 PM
I'm in...sign me up for whatever league needs a spot...if you need to slot me in now put me in the control group, but I am happy to take either side.
8/28/2020 2:06 PM
As someone with a penchant for over-drafting innings, I've been meaning to try a team with fewer innings. This controlled environment should be a good setting, so put me down for a fatigue/test team.
8/28/2020 2:57 PM
man, this is going to be fun...
8/28/2020 4:32 PM
Welcome everyone! I’ll put you down for control contrarian and will switch if I need to later. Appreciate the flexibility
8/28/2020 6:24 PM
1/4 of the way full!
8/28/2020 11:13 PM
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