ANOTHER Fair Play Violation?? dun dun duuuun Topic

Posted by fluff_nasty on 8/29/2020 7:08:00 PM (view original):
Posted by topdogggbm on 8/29/2020 7:06:00 PM (view original):
Why is fluff banned then? Seriously. Just asking
My appeal went through and I have been reinstated. It didn't go through till after the championship game, but oh well.

They were in the process of their investigation and my account was frozen during that time. I guess there isn't much I can do about that now.

Again, my main focus right now is raising awareness and access regarding the FPGs to help coaches in the future.
on one hand, i'm happy for you that you were reinstated. congrats.

on the other, i definitely feel like you are making the situation worse than it needs to be with the alt account ranting and now all this. if your focus is on raising awareness, then i would suggest dropping everything else (and probably giving it a little time before pushing the awareness issue). besides, the constant misdirection has really undermined your credibility at this point, even for me who is one of the most sympathetic people here to your situation - so for everyone else, its probably at zero. not really ideal conditions.

seble tends to be pretty hesitant to ban folks. i've never heard of him doing it to someone without multiple warnings along the way, and without some pretty egregious behavior. either he's had to talk to you guys before, or what he found he considered really condemning. you can't expect any of us to believe there is nothing more to the story than your relative throwing the game without your knowledge. if that is all that is getting held against you, i kinda feel like you should consider yourself lucky, own it, and move on.
8/29/2020 8:15 PM
Posted by Sportsbulls on 8/29/2020 7:17:00 PM (view original):
Posted by mrslam34 on 8/29/2020 7:08:00 PM (view original):
Posted by Sportsbulls on 8/29/2020 6:55:00 PM (view original):
I'd love to here fluff or Kolby defend how spread out kolby's team is. Do you guys admit to sharing recruiting info?
To be fair, it's not that difficult or unusual to have players from all over. It just depends on a coach's strategy. I understand that kolby doesn't get the benefit of the doubt because of other violations, but I don't think we should automatically be suspicious of all teams that are spread out. I was curious about my D2 rosters to see how spread out they are:

- Alaska Fairbanks
- 3 Players: International
- 2 Players: Washington
- 1 Player: Alaska, Oregon, Idaho, Mississippi, Louisiana, Oklahoma

- Puerto Rico, Bayamon
- 7 Players: International
- 1 Player: Michigan, Texas, Canada, California

- Columbus St (located in Georgia in a nearly full conference)
- 3 Players: International
- 1 Player: Canada, Nevada, California, Georgia, Oklahoma, Michigan, South Carolina, Mississippi, Utah
I'd love to hear the scouting strategy scherguy employed to recruit a non-juco class of PR, CA, TX, and WV.

Now that he is reinstated, I'd also be interested to hear the scouting strategy fluff used to scout NE (out of all states, randomly Nebraska), considering he couldn't have used a camp for it and if he assistant coached he'd have to go through OR, CA, NV, ID, UT, AZ, NM, CO, WY, TX, OK, and KS, and also considering two of the best Phelan D2 coaches are right next to NE.
Respond to this fluff^
8/29/2020 9:50 PM
Mrslam, I won't lie, your rosters have always confused me as well. I am pretty sure I grasp what you're doing now that I'm more experienced and learned to understand different tactics. But at first glance I admit your style made me scratch my head. I'm glad you came here to share your example tho
8/29/2020 10:17 PM
Yeah slam takes what I've been doing lately to another level in D2. No idea how he scouts like that.
8.2.2
8/29/2020 11:00 PM
Posted by Sportsbulls on 8/29/2020 9:50:00 PM (view original):
Posted by Sportsbulls on 8/29/2020 7:17:00 PM (view original):
Posted by mrslam34 on 8/29/2020 7:08:00 PM (view original):
Posted by Sportsbulls on 8/29/2020 6:55:00 PM (view original):
I'd love to here fluff or Kolby defend how spread out kolby's team is. Do you guys admit to sharing recruiting info?
To be fair, it's not that difficult or unusual to have players from all over. It just depends on a coach's strategy. I understand that kolby doesn't get the benefit of the doubt because of other violations, but I don't think we should automatically be suspicious of all teams that are spread out. I was curious about my D2 rosters to see how spread out they are:

- Alaska Fairbanks
- 3 Players: International
- 2 Players: Washington
- 1 Player: Alaska, Oregon, Idaho, Mississippi, Louisiana, Oklahoma

- Puerto Rico, Bayamon
- 7 Players: International
- 1 Player: Michigan, Texas, Canada, California

- Columbus St (located in Georgia in a nearly full conference)
- 3 Players: International
- 1 Player: Canada, Nevada, California, Georgia, Oklahoma, Michigan, South Carolina, Mississippi, Utah
I'd love to hear the scouting strategy scherguy employed to recruit a non-juco class of PR, CA, TX, and WV.

Now that he is reinstated, I'd also be interested to hear the scouting strategy fluff used to scout NE (out of all states, randomly Nebraska), considering he couldn't have used a camp for it and if he assistant coached he'd have to go through OR, CA, NV, ID, UT, AZ, NM, CO, WY, TX, OK, and KS, and also considering two of the best Phelan D2 coaches are right next to NE.
Respond to this fluff^
I defer to fluff on his strategy but for more insights on how other players scout...sometimes I randomly scout states to meet certain # thresholds when using scouting services.

For example if I want to scout exactly 15 people to then use the assistant coach to get those 15 up to level 4 I'll find 5 states that collectively add up to 15 players (i.e. 1, 3, 5, 4, 2)...that's how I wound up with random kids from Arizona and Arkansas on my DePauw team in Knight:
https://www.whatifsports.com/hd/PlayerProfile/Ratings.aspx?tid=0&pid=4561577
https://www.whatifsports.com/hd/PlayerProfile/Ratings.aspx?tid=0&pid=4608971
Works best at D2 obviously where you don't need to worry about randomly scouting top 100 players. At D1 I'll usually keep the states I pick to under 750 miles so I can use that filter as well to avoid having to scout every single player in the top 100.
8/29/2020 11:01 PM
Sports-at a D2 schools I've scouted D1 internationals (just to level 1) after doing all of my other recruiting. When I had more time to pay attention, I'd click through every single D1 international after each of the first couple of cycles to see which D1 (or D2) humans were on those guys (yes, it was time consuming and a ton of clicking). If there were multiple coaches I respected or recruits that had multiple D2 A+ schools on them I'd consider scouting to L2 and if I had good/better preferences, I'd go after those guys despite only scouting them to L2.

Frank Jones, in particular, was a top 100 recruit so he was automatically visible to every school. I don't know how much attention fluff pays to recruiting but IF he had lots of time he could have seen Kansas was the only school on the kid and only had 1 opening. Once KU signed another recruit Jones would have been open for the taking. Seeing an A+ D1 school on a recruit will often deter most humans with lesser prestige from pursuing, especially at D1. This could have been the perfect situation for Fluff to snipe Jones in RS2. Not saying this is what happened, just saying it's plausible.
8/29/2020 11:08 PM
Posted by darnoc29099 on 8/29/2020 11:08:00 PM (view original):
Sports-at a D2 schools I've scouted D1 internationals (just to level 1) after doing all of my other recruiting. When I had more time to pay attention, I'd click through every single D1 international after each of the first couple of cycles to see which D1 (or D2) humans were on those guys (yes, it was time consuming and a ton of clicking). If there were multiple coaches I respected or recruits that had multiple D2 A+ schools on them I'd consider scouting to L2 and if I had good/better preferences, I'd go after those guys despite only scouting them to L2.

Frank Jones, in particular, was a top 100 recruit so he was automatically visible to every school. I don't know how much attention fluff pays to recruiting but IF he had lots of time he could have seen Kansas was the only school on the kid and only had 1 opening. Once KU signed another recruit Jones would have been open for the taking. Seeing an A+ D1 school on a recruit will often deter most humans with lesser prestige from pursuing, especially at D1. This could have been the perfect situation for Fluff to snipe Jones in RS2. Not saying this is what happened, just saying it's plausible.
It’s not, lol, that’s why I’m specifically commenting on that. First off, not fully sure of tbis part, but I think Jones was just outside of the top 100, like 113 or so. But more importantly, fluff was on early.

Also, I understand for INTL, but why pick Nebraska? Just seems like a weird place to randomly pick to be super inefficient? Like why skip over states like NM or TX or OK or whatever to pick Nebraska?
8/29/2020 11:14 PM
Posted by sol_phenom3 on 8/29/2020 11:01:00 PM (view original):
Posted by Sportsbulls on 8/29/2020 9:50:00 PM (view original):
Posted by Sportsbulls on 8/29/2020 7:17:00 PM (view original):
Posted by mrslam34 on 8/29/2020 7:08:00 PM (view original):
Posted by Sportsbulls on 8/29/2020 6:55:00 PM (view original):
I'd love to here fluff or Kolby defend how spread out kolby's team is. Do you guys admit to sharing recruiting info?
To be fair, it's not that difficult or unusual to have players from all over. It just depends on a coach's strategy. I understand that kolby doesn't get the benefit of the doubt because of other violations, but I don't think we should automatically be suspicious of all teams that are spread out. I was curious about my D2 rosters to see how spread out they are:

- Alaska Fairbanks
- 3 Players: International
- 2 Players: Washington
- 1 Player: Alaska, Oregon, Idaho, Mississippi, Louisiana, Oklahoma

- Puerto Rico, Bayamon
- 7 Players: International
- 1 Player: Michigan, Texas, Canada, California

- Columbus St (located in Georgia in a nearly full conference)
- 3 Players: International
- 1 Player: Canada, Nevada, California, Georgia, Oklahoma, Michigan, South Carolina, Mississippi, Utah
I'd love to hear the scouting strategy scherguy employed to recruit a non-juco class of PR, CA, TX, and WV.

Now that he is reinstated, I'd also be interested to hear the scouting strategy fluff used to scout NE (out of all states, randomly Nebraska), considering he couldn't have used a camp for it and if he assistant coached he'd have to go through OR, CA, NV, ID, UT, AZ, NM, CO, WY, TX, OK, and KS, and also considering two of the best Phelan D2 coaches are right next to NE.
Respond to this fluff^
I defer to fluff on his strategy but for more insights on how other players scout...sometimes I randomly scout states to meet certain # thresholds when using scouting services.

For example if I want to scout exactly 15 people to then use the assistant coach to get those 15 up to level 4 I'll find 5 states that collectively add up to 15 players (i.e. 1, 3, 5, 4, 2)...that's how I wound up with random kids from Arizona and Arkansas on my DePauw team in Knight:
https://www.whatifsports.com/hd/PlayerProfile/Ratings.aspx?tid=0&pid=4561577
https://www.whatifsports.com/hd/PlayerProfile/Ratings.aspx?tid=0&pid=4608971
Works best at D2 obviously where you don't need to worry about randomly scouting top 100 players. At D1 I'll usually keep the states I pick to under 750 miles so I can use that filter as well to avoid having to scout every single player in the top 100.
This is the key D2 and D1 are way different.
8/29/2020 11:15 PM
Posted by Sportsbulls on 8/29/2020 11:14:00 PM (view original):
Posted by darnoc29099 on 8/29/2020 11:08:00 PM (view original):
Sports-at a D2 schools I've scouted D1 internationals (just to level 1) after doing all of my other recruiting. When I had more time to pay attention, I'd click through every single D1 international after each of the first couple of cycles to see which D1 (or D2) humans were on those guys (yes, it was time consuming and a ton of clicking). If there were multiple coaches I respected or recruits that had multiple D2 A+ schools on them I'd consider scouting to L2 and if I had good/better preferences, I'd go after those guys despite only scouting them to L2.

Frank Jones, in particular, was a top 100 recruit so he was automatically visible to every school. I don't know how much attention fluff pays to recruiting but IF he had lots of time he could have seen Kansas was the only school on the kid and only had 1 opening. Once KU signed another recruit Jones would have been open for the taking. Seeing an A+ D1 school on a recruit will often deter most humans with lesser prestige from pursuing, especially at D1. This could have been the perfect situation for Fluff to snipe Jones in RS2. Not saying this is what happened, just saying it's plausible.
It’s not, lol, that’s why I’m specifically commenting on that. First off, not fully sure of tbis part, but I think Jones was just outside of the top 100, like 113 or so. But more importantly, fluff was on early.

Also, I understand for INTL, but why pick Nebraska? Just seems like a weird place to randomly pick to be super inefficient? Like why skip over states like NM or TX or OK or whatever to pick Nebraska?
Lighten up, Francis.
8/29/2020 11:51 PM
Posted by Sportsbulls on 8/29/2020 9:50:00 PM (view original):
Posted by Sportsbulls on 8/29/2020 7:17:00 PM (view original):
Posted by mrslam34 on 8/29/2020 7:08:00 PM (view original):
Posted by Sportsbulls on 8/29/2020 6:55:00 PM (view original):
I'd love to here fluff or Kolby defend how spread out kolby's team is. Do you guys admit to sharing recruiting info?
To be fair, it's not that difficult or unusual to have players from all over. It just depends on a coach's strategy. I understand that kolby doesn't get the benefit of the doubt because of other violations, but I don't think we should automatically be suspicious of all teams that are spread out. I was curious about my D2 rosters to see how spread out they are:

- Alaska Fairbanks
- 3 Players: International
- 2 Players: Washington
- 1 Player: Alaska, Oregon, Idaho, Mississippi, Louisiana, Oklahoma

- Puerto Rico, Bayamon
- 7 Players: International
- 1 Player: Michigan, Texas, Canada, California

- Columbus St (located in Georgia in a nearly full conference)
- 3 Players: International
- 1 Player: Canada, Nevada, California, Georgia, Oklahoma, Michigan, South Carolina, Mississippi, Utah
I'd love to hear the scouting strategy scherguy employed to recruit a non-juco class of PR, CA, TX, and WV.

Now that he is reinstated, I'd also be interested to hear the scouting strategy fluff used to scout NE (out of all states, randomly Nebraska), considering he couldn't have used a camp for it and if he assistant coached he'd have to go through OR, CA, NV, ID, UT, AZ, NM, CO, WY, TX, OK, and KS, and also considering two of the best Phelan D2 coaches are right next to NE.
Respond to this fluff^
im confused about one point - why couldnt he get NE - if he didnt FSS all that other stuff you mentioned, and set assistant to scout already known players?
8/30/2020 12:37 AM
Posted by gillispie1 on 8/30/2020 12:37:00 AM (view original):
Posted by Sportsbulls on 8/29/2020 9:50:00 PM (view original):
Posted by Sportsbulls on 8/29/2020 7:17:00 PM (view original):
Posted by mrslam34 on 8/29/2020 7:08:00 PM (view original):
Posted by Sportsbulls on 8/29/2020 6:55:00 PM (view original):
I'd love to here fluff or Kolby defend how spread out kolby's team is. Do you guys admit to sharing recruiting info?
To be fair, it's not that difficult or unusual to have players from all over. It just depends on a coach's strategy. I understand that kolby doesn't get the benefit of the doubt because of other violations, but I don't think we should automatically be suspicious of all teams that are spread out. I was curious about my D2 rosters to see how spread out they are:

- Alaska Fairbanks
- 3 Players: International
- 2 Players: Washington
- 1 Player: Alaska, Oregon, Idaho, Mississippi, Louisiana, Oklahoma

- Puerto Rico, Bayamon
- 7 Players: International
- 1 Player: Michigan, Texas, Canada, California

- Columbus St (located in Georgia in a nearly full conference)
- 3 Players: International
- 1 Player: Canada, Nevada, California, Georgia, Oklahoma, Michigan, South Carolina, Mississippi, Utah
I'd love to hear the scouting strategy scherguy employed to recruit a non-juco class of PR, CA, TX, and WV.

Now that he is reinstated, I'd also be interested to hear the scouting strategy fluff used to scout NE (out of all states, randomly Nebraska), considering he couldn't have used a camp for it and if he assistant coached he'd have to go through OR, CA, NV, ID, UT, AZ, NM, CO, WY, TX, OK, and KS, and also considering two of the best Phelan D2 coaches are right next to NE.
Respond to this fluff^
im confused about one point - why couldnt he get NE - if he didnt FSS all that other stuff you mentioned, and set assistant to scout already known players?
Why would he single out NE and not scout the states that I mentioned closer to him (when there’s more competition in NE and he’d have to pay for top 100s in between)? If he did that, and skipped to scout NE over closer states, then he can say that.
8/30/2020 1:14 AM
I'm extremely proud of my scouting strategy.

Am I going to announce it to the world, no.
8/30/2020 2:54 AM
Posted by fluff_nasty on 8/30/2020 2:54:00 AM (view original):
I'm extremely proud of my scouting strategy.

Am I going to announce it to the world, no.
I'm extremely proud of my scouting strategy too. I think its the most important part of my HD success.

The difference between us is that I'm planning on revealing it to every HD member on the forums through a guide, and you won't share a tidbit of yours to prove innocence as you continue with your FPG pinning rampage.
8/30/2020 3:21 AM
It's great that you're going to share yours, that doesn't mean I have to share mine.

I'm honestly really excited for your guide, I know I'm going to learn alot from it, and hopefully its the last bit I need to finally get my first championship. You're a good coach and its great that you're going to share what you know.

We are obviously scouting differently. I'm curious to see how you do it.
8/30/2020 3:54 AM
Posted by fluff_nasty on 8/30/2020 3:54:00 AM (view original):
It's great that you're going to share yours, that doesn't mean I have to share mine.

I'm honestly really excited for your guide, I know I'm going to learn alot from it, and hopefully its the last bit I need to finally get my first championship. You're a good coach and its great that you're going to share what you know.

We are obviously scouting differently. I'm curious to see how you do it.
Thank you. And yes, that is true, you are not obligated to share yours, just thought it'd help your case a bit giving a tidbit about that situation.
8/30/2020 3:58 AM
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