C: Dwight Howard / DeMarcus Cousins
PF: Andre Drummond / Anderson Varejao / Cousins
SF: Gerald Wallace / Richaun Holmes / Ryan Anderson
SG: Kobe Bryant / Goran Dragic
PG: Jose Calderon / Charlie Ward / Dana Barros

I have mixed sentiments about my squad this time around. If my teams don't do well this season, it could very well be because I waited too long to grab a point guard. Kobe was a bit of a desperation pick because I was getting worried about usage and especially 3s. But I could have picked Terry Porter or Deron Williams along with Kobe and then drafted Faried in the fifth. Well, time to play with the cards I dealt myself.

Posted by robusk on 11/9/2020 1:38:00 AM (view original):

Posted by jpevans31 on 11/8/2020 5:23:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tarheel1991 on 11/8/2020 4:31:00 PM (view original):
Or for a simpler commentary: the SIM often does not reflect real life very well. One way in which it does: Scottie Pippen is much better as an elite second banana than as the lead scorer for a team. I've rarely seen a team built around Pippen as the #1 scorer do well, and think yours will have the same issue.

That's probably my main concern. Team Usg and eFG% aren't as big deal in my mind. Collison averages about 20% across worlds. Millsap is 20-26, Hassan 20-23. T-Mac is high as hell, and except for his 02-03 will get be getting limited Scottie-backup minutes. O and West are usually both 13-16, but both have a season or 2 approaching 20. I've staggered all rotations to where it should be 110-98% always, and the time below 102 is minimal.
And, FG%... T-Mac and Terrell in 4/5 seasons are bad, but not utterly horrible. They're both in limited bench modes most seasons. Scottie and Millsap are both always decent, not great, but never an anchor. Collison is decent-good. Now, look at the eFG%s of the seasons I'll be using of guys like:
Hassan - 55.7, 62.1, 62.4, 60.5, 57.1
West - 61.4, 64.7, 55.1, 65.3, 62.5
Oliver - 60.9, 52.6, 58.8, 55.5
Nance - 58.4, 55.4, 59.6
Bobby - 55.9, 57, 57.8, 60.4, 58.1
Bowen - 57.1
Given that T-Mac/Terrell's weaker eFG% seasons will be low minutes, I think these guys can make up for it some. Edit: Just read the thing about 3s. I don't have any volume 3 guys, but Pip, Terrell, Collison, Nance, Millsap, Bowen, T-Mac all have years with a decent amount, and importantly, good 3pt%. If I mix and match well, I might be alright.
Reb% might hurt sometimes, but Pip/T-Mac (Bowen with 1 backup season) at SG, and Bobby/Nance (with some Millsap/ T-Mac's 02-03) at SF and Hassan could be ok. The main issue is if I lined up my weaker West/Oliver Reb seasons correctly to cover as much as possible. Both are decent ORebs, but both have weak/decent DReb seasons.
One little thing about IRL, since I'm a Pippen fan: 93-94, how did Scottie fare as the lead-dog over a full season? Yes, Scottie was best as Ultra-Robin, but in the right system, he did all-right. His best teammates were Horace, young-Kukoc and about-washed-Cartwright, and he almost made the Finals.

I think in its raw form it looks like a good eFG team, but you and goetz both have teams that worry me usage wise, I wonder if you might bump up against the floor when the rotation hits wrong. It looks like an average rebounding teams to me; maybe above average offensive rebounding and ever so slightly below average defensive rebounding. The assists are slightly below average. The defense is top five. The TO% looks really bad and the fouls might be bottom ten. Good eFG + low usage + medium rebounding + minus assists + great defense + bad fouls + bad turnovers = 14 - 22 range.

Not personal. Just my uninformed as a never been good owner in this format. I offer my assessment because you explicitly asked for feedback. Not because I want to argue with you since I think I am right. I have no idea what is right here.

That all makes sense. I've probably been looking at the roster thru rose-tinted glasses, because I was able to get a bunch of defenders I like. Honestly, I don't think Usg will be the problem, I've mixed and matched.
You're right about rebs being an issue, at least against strong board teams. I've changed my tune somewhat on Smith, he's going to get some run in 1 or 2 leagues. I've rarely taken my time to look up TO%, so that's on me, and I knew I'd have to tinker because of fouls. If they're fouling the Drummond-types, not the Steph-types, maybe it won't kill me. Ast%, except for a season of Terrell, I don't have a top-tier Asts, but I have a bunch of secondary-passers. I've tried to get it to always have at least 3 on the floor, but we'll see. I appreciate the feedback, and I'll have to pay more attention to TO% now. Thanks, Robusk.
I know I'm not a top-8 team, but I could be a top-5 defense, which I dig. After last season, I had to try building a different type of team. This team is closer to S1 (8th place) than S2 (23rd). Not gonna be as good as my S1 because of rebounding, but might be able to get top-half, which is a helluva lot better than last season.

Posted by jhsukow on 11/8/2020 2:36:00 PM (view original):
Mistakes were made.

Looking at you Clint Capela.

	TotalMinPerGame
James Harden	180
Kidd, Jason	192
Draymond Green	137
Capela, Clint	68
Horford, Al	62
Outlaw, Bo	130
Sabonis, Domantas	74
Westbrook, Russell	87
Turner, Myles	70
Jamario Moon	36
DeAndre Ayton	44
Lacey, Sam	120

Row Labels	Count of Min/82	Average of Min/82
Harper, Ron	1	34.8
Paul, Chris	5	32.7
Drexler, Clyde	5	32.4
Grant, Horace	5	31.8
Beal, Bradley	4	30.8
Kemp, Shawn	5	30.0
Webber, Chris	5	29.7
Bogut, Andrew	5	19.8
Chriss, Marquese	1	18.4
Plumlee, Mason	5	15.3
Tinsley, Jamaal	2	14.2
Nurkic, Jusuf	3	12.1

Posted by tarheel1991 on 11/9/2020 7:28:00 AM (view original):
Here’s how my own squad ended up:

PG: Oscar, Baron Davis
Wings: Iguodala, Mullin, Batum, Anderson, Person, West
PF: Hakeem, Embiid, West
C: Gobert, Dalembert

Like I said before, I think it went about as well as it could after starting with Hakeem. Having mediocre efg% from my two lead dogs (Oscar and Hakeem) may well be my downfall, although both make up for it some with plenty of FT at a good percentage. The wing rotation gives me a ton of options; frankly the toughest part is going to be figuring out how to use all of the best wing minutes across the five teams.

In the end, I like the build, but I’m worried we might not be good enough at anything to be more than just an above-average squad. The good news is I should be very well equipped to handle teams built around post scorers, with Hakeem/Gobert/Embiid comprising an imposing front line.

Looks like plenty of usage. Seems like you ended up with slightly above average shooting which is impressive given Oscar and Hakeem. I actually think the rebounding could end up being a bit light. Assists looks above average and the defense looks absolutely excellent. Turnovers and fouls both look very good. I think you can make the top ten with this squad.

@goetz: Like I said elsewhere, I think you usage looks light on some teams.but your shooting %s are very good. Very low threes but people have shown you can work around that. Rebounding should be good one some teams and bad on others. Assists are very good, defense probably below average. Turnovers and fouls appear to be awful.

I think if you try and make two awesome teams and whatever you can muster on the other three teams, you might have a chance. If you try to be balanced on all five teams you might be in trouble.

Posted by longtallbrad on 11/9/2020 8:28:00 AM (view original):
C: Dwight Howard / DeMarcus Cousins
PF: Andre Drummond / Anderson Varejao / Cousins
SF: Gerald Wallace / Richaun Holmes / Ryan Anderson
SG: Kobe Bryant / Goran Dragic
PG: Jose Calderon / Charlie Ward / Dana Barros

I have mixed sentiments about my squad this time around. If my teams don't do well this season, it could very well be because I waited too long to grab a point guard. Kobe was a bit of a desperation pick because I was getting worried about usage and especially 3s. But I could have picked Terry Porter or Deron Williams along with Kobe and then drafted Faried in the fifth. Well, time to play with the cards I dealt myself.

Very good on usage thanks to Kobe. I think the shooting percentages look real good thanks to the front court. No doubt you will be good on boards. I actually think you mustered the assists well. I think this could end up being a very bad defense. Turnovers and fouls are fine.

I think it could end up being similar to my season two squad: great on offense, hemorrhaging points on defense.

currently trying to to turn this mediocre group into something special...its not going well

hopefully will have the league#s out later tonight

Posted by robusk on 11/9/2020 2:03:00 PM (view original):

Posted by tarheel1991 on 11/9/2020 7:28:00 AM (view original):
Here’s how my own squad ended up:

PG: Oscar, Baron Davis
Wings: Iguodala, Mullin, Batum, Anderson, Person, West
PF: Hakeem, Embiid, West
C: Gobert, Dalembert

Like I said before, I think it went about as well as it could after starting with Hakeem. Having mediocre efg% from my two lead dogs (Oscar and Hakeem) may well be my downfall, although both make up for it some with plenty of FT at a good percentage. The wing rotation gives me a ton of options; frankly the toughest part is going to be figuring out how to use all of the best wing minutes across the five teams.

In the end, I like the build, but I’m worried we might not be good enough at anything to be more than just an above-average squad. The good news is I should be very well equipped to handle teams built around post scorers, with Hakeem/Gobert/Embiid comprising an imposing front line.

Looks like plenty of usage. Seems like you ended up with slightly above average shooting which is impressive given Oscar and Hakeem. I actually think the rebounding could end up being a bit light. Assists looks above average and the defense looks absolutely excellent. Turnovers and fouls both look very good. I think you can make the top ten with this squad.

Yeah, rebounding is pretty meh (consistent with my usual team builds), but I think I've got the worst of it confined to one team that will be really light.

That fifth team is not going to be very good - I'm thinking 30-35 wins - so I better be as good as hoped on the three best ones.

Posted by dh555 on 11/9/2020 2:37:00 PM (view original):
currently trying to to turn this mediocre group into something special...its not going well

hopefully will have the league#s out later tonight

got the majority of my teams built...just got to fill in some of the armstrong/unseld backup seasons and end of bench guys

ran out of WIS time today tho...league #s will be out late tuesday night or wednesday afternoon

in the meantime...could someone finish up the rosters page that ltb started? maybe we can get some evals from pex and others if they have that to look at...i can also use my nostradamus savage skills and maybe set some lines or something(i got ya jcred! haha)

So are we doing self evals?
Lowry/Harper
Jrue/Harper
Silas/Edge/Jamychal/O'Quinn/partridge in a pear tree
Buck/Blake
KAJ/Sikma or Blake

I certainly hope this team will do better than my S2 middle of the pack, that was really one very good team and 4 crappy teams. And hopefully better than my S1 team that I think was tied for 9th.... but we'll see. Big advantage getting KAJ. From there I decided to build the team I want and not worry as much about players falling on the draft board or picking players earlier than they had been. I've always thought Buck is undervalued in drafts and in previous drafts I was picking early 2nd, which was too early. He has a lot of great eFG, solid usage and D with good boards. Towels aren't too bad. Back to the well with Lowry because he gave me a little of everything except D and I planned to pair him with a defending guard. I like to look back at the draft and see if there's anyone chosen after Lowry that I would take in retrospect, I think the answer is no. Rondo is a better passer and defender but forces you into a 3 point shooting guard with him. Price and Porter shoot less 3's and don't play much D either. Getting Holiday in the 4th is a pretty good pairing. Mostly a good to great defender, shoots a few 3's. Clean player, solid usage. Harper in the 5th was just a value pick. I didn't 100% need him, but he was too good to pass up and a 3 guard rotation with two of them being good to great defenders helps cover for lowry. Don't love the lack of rebounding at the guard - but you have to sacrifice something and I thought there would be plenty of boards left at SF. So in the 6th I take Silas, not sexy at all unless you're into 6-7 guys that play hard nose D and crash the offensive boards. That actually sounds a little sexy to me. Felt I had usage, shooting and assists already covered so the goal here was to get heavy boards, good D and if the don't shoot it well, low usage. Silas hits all those and I'm hoping his often 97% eff at SF won't hurt much.

From here on out it was trying to grab value with so many of my starter minutes covered. O'Quinn, Edge, Jamychal will cut into Silas' time here and there and offer some things I like. I had been hoping to snag Kevin Love for bench usage but Pex grabbed him so I settled for Blake off the bench who I hope isn't the end of the world for 10-12 minutes a game. TJ McConnell won't play too much, wish I had George Hill there instead. Jack Sikma was going to be Cladwell Jones but he wasn't there. I think Sikma could be undervalued in this format. At most he'll give Kareem a blow when I can't deal with Blake's terrible defense.

Posted by dh555 on 11/7/2020 10:55:00 PM (view original):

Posted by bds9992 on 11/7/2020 4:55:00 PM (view original):
Billups/T. Hardaway/Floyd (one day I hope to have four decades of Golden State point guards on the same squad)
Bird/Hield
AK47/Collins/Favors
Towns/Bosh
Tree/Eaton

I like having a full time efficient 6th man like Buddy.

I wish I had more one time combo forwards like Wood and Chriss.

There are reasons why we’ll falter compared to last season, but overall there are a lot of things I like. Tree, Eaton and AK should gobble up some of the makes Towns gives up. Plenty of boards, assists, blocks and 3s. Hopefully eFG% and perimeter D don’t hold us back

ive never understood the desire to play bird at sg...youre not playing 87-88 at sg are you?

no no no, 88 can’t play SG

Bird and AK switch on that team and another. For of my Utah AK seasons, AK plays SF and Bird moves up. This time I can actually commit to Favors as a full time SF with Hield coming in as Bird’s primary backup.

Boards is the big thing. With AK it doesn’t much matter who plays the 2 or 3.

Posted by bds9992 on 11/9/2020 7:42:00 PM (view original):

Posted by dh555 on 11/7/2020 10:55:00 PM (view original):

Posted by bds9992 on 11/7/2020 4:55:00 PM (view original):
Billups/T. Hardaway/Floyd (one day I hope to have four decades of Golden State point guards on the same squad)
Bird/Hield
AK47/Collins/Favors
Towns/Bosh
Tree/Eaton

I like having a full time efficient 6th man like Buddy.

I wish I had more one time combo forwards like Wood and Chriss.

There are reasons why we’ll falter compared to last season, but overall there are a lot of things I like. Tree, Eaton and AK should gobble up some of the makes Towns gives up. Plenty of boards, assists, blocks and 3s. Hopefully eFG% and perimeter D don’t hold us back

ive never understood the desire to play bird at sg...youre not playing 87-88 at sg are you?

no no no, 88 can’t play SG

Bird and AK switch on that team and another. For of my Utah AK seasons, AK plays SF and Bird moves up. This time I can actually commit to Favors as a full time SF with Hield coming in as Bird’s primary backup.

Boards is the big thing. With AK it doesn’t much matter who plays the 2 or 3.

It matters to some extent when your usage gets mismatched because you've got your lower-usage backups at the 3 and your higher-usage backups at the 2. But yeah, I get what you're saying.

Posted by jcred5 on 11/9/2020 7:24:00 PM (view original):
So are we doing self evals?
Lowry/Harper
Jrue/Harper
Silas/Edge/Jamychal/O'Quinn/partridge in a pear tree
Buck/Blake
KAJ/Sikma or Blake

I certainly hope this team will do better than my S2 middle of the pack, that was really one very good team and 4 crappy teams. And hopefully better than my S1 team that I think was tied for 9th.... but we'll see. Big advantage getting KAJ. From there I decided to build the team I want and not worry as much about players falling on the draft board or picking players earlier than they had been. I've always thought Buck is undervalued in drafts and in previous drafts I was picking early 2nd, which was too early. He has a lot of great eFG, solid usage and D with good boards. Towels aren't too bad. Back to the well with Lowry because he gave me a little of everything except D and I planned to pair him with a defending guard. I like to look back at the draft and see if there's anyone chosen after Lowry that I would take in retrospect, I think the answer is no. Rondo is a better passer and defender but forces you into a 3 point shooting guard with him. Price and Porter shoot less 3's and don't play much D either. Getting Holiday in the 4th is a pretty good pairing. Mostly a good to great defender, shoots a few 3's. Clean player, solid usage. Harper in the 5th was just a value pick. I didn't 100% need him, but he was too good to pass up and a 3 guard rotation with two of them being good to great defenders helps cover for lowry. Don't love the lack of rebounding at the guard - but you have to sacrifice something and I thought there would be plenty of boards left at SF. So in the 6th I take Silas, not sexy at all unless you're into 6-7 guys that play hard nose D and crash the offensive boards. That actually sounds a little sexy to me. Felt I had usage, shooting and assists already covered so the goal here was to get heavy boards, good D and if the don't shoot it well, low usage. Silas hits all those and I'm hoping his often 97% eff at SF won't hurt much.

From here on out it was trying to grab value with so many of my starter minutes covered. O'Quinn, Edge, Jamychal will cut into Silas' time here and there and offer some things I like. I had been hoping to snag Kevin Love for bench usage but Pex grabbed him so I settled for Blake off the bench who I hope isn't the end of the world for 10-12 minutes a game. TJ McConnell won't play too much, wish I had George Hill there instead. Jack Sikma was going to be Cladwell Jones but he wasn't there. I think Sikma could be undervalued in this format. At most he'll give Kareem a blow when I can't deal with Blake's terrible defense.

I thought Lowry was a good pick and a good fit; Jrue is good next to him too. I'm not a big fan of Silas or Sikma. Just can't stomach that poor efg%. Though Sikma should somewhat make up for it with FTs.

As for Buck - I don't think he was necessarily a bad pick, but if his towels "aren't too bad," whose are? Haha, (And I say this as the guy whose team is built around Hakeem.)

Posted by robusk on 11/9/2020 2:06:00 PM (view original):

Posted by longtallbrad on 11/9/2020 8:28:00 AM (view original):
C: Dwight Howard / DeMarcus Cousins
PF: Andre Drummond / Anderson Varejao / Cousins
SF: Gerald Wallace / Richaun Holmes / Ryan Anderson
SG: Kobe Bryant / Goran Dragic
PG: Jose Calderon / Charlie Ward / Dana Barros

I have mixed sentiments about my squad this time around. If my teams don't do well this season, it could very well be because I waited too long to grab a point guard. Kobe was a bit of a desperation pick because I was getting worried about usage and especially 3s. But I could have picked Terry Porter or Deron Williams along with Kobe and then drafted Faried in the fifth. Well, time to play with the cards I dealt myself.

Very good on usage thanks to Kobe. I think the shooting percentages look real good thanks to the front court. No doubt you will be good on boards. I actually think you mustered the assists well. I think this could end up being a very bad defense. Turnovers and fouls are fine.

I think it could end up being similar to my season two squad: great on offense, hemorrhaging points on defense.

Hmm. You may be right. Howard and Bryant are consistently strong defenders and Wallace ranges from good to great. Calderon will be feasted on by certain opponents, and I tend forget that Drummond's starter seasons are mediocre on D.

Posted by jcred5 on 11/9/2020 7:24:00 PM (view original):
So are we doing self evals?
Lowry/Harper
Jrue/Harper
Silas/Edge/Jamychal/O'Quinn/partridge in a pear tree
Buck/Blake
KAJ/Sikma or Blake

I certainly hope this team will do better than my S2 middle of the pack, that was really one very good team and 4 crappy teams. And hopefully better than my S1 team that I think was tied for 9th.... but we'll see. Big advantage getting KAJ. From there I decided to build the team I want and not worry as much about players falling on the draft board or picking players earlier than they had been. I've always thought Buck is undervalued in drafts and in previous drafts I was picking early 2nd, which was too early. He has a lot of great eFG, solid usage and D with good boards. Towels aren't too bad. Back to the well with Lowry because he gave me a little of everything except D and I planned to pair him with a defending guard. I like to look back at the draft and see if there's anyone chosen after Lowry that I would take in retrospect, I think the answer is no. Rondo is a better passer and defender but forces you into a 3 point shooting guard with him. Price and Porter shoot less 3's and don't play much D either. Getting Holiday in the 4th is a pretty good pairing. Mostly a good to great defender, shoots a few 3's. Clean player, solid usage. Harper in the 5th was just a value pick. I didn't 100% need him, but he was too good to pass up and a 3 guard rotation with two of them being good to great defenders helps cover for lowry. Don't love the lack of rebounding at the guard - but you have to sacrifice something and I thought there would be plenty of boards left at SF. So in the 6th I take Silas, not sexy at all unless you're into 6-7 guys that play hard nose D and crash the offensive boards. That actually sounds a little sexy to me. Felt I had usage, shooting and assists already covered so the goal here was to get heavy boards, good D and if the don't shoot it well, low usage. Silas hits all those and I'm hoping his often 97% eff at SF won't hurt much.

From here on out it was trying to grab value with so many of my starter minutes covered. O'Quinn, Edge, Jamychal will cut into Silas' time here and there and offer some things I like. I had been hoping to snag Kevin Love for bench usage but Pex grabbed him so I settled for Blake off the bench who I hope isn't the end of the world for 10-12 minutes a game. TJ McConnell won't play too much, wish I had George Hill there instead. Jack Sikma was going to be Cladwell Jones but he wasn't there. I think Sikma could be undervalued in this format. At most he'll give Kareem a blow when I can't deal with Blake's terrible defense.

It seems like depending on how the bench hits, you could bump up against it usage wise occasionally. I am guessing the shooting numbers are pretty low across the teams. I have it as a top five team in both rebounding categories despite the backcourt. Above average assists. Average defense. Below average turnovers and fouls. Middle of the pack? That is what it would appear to me, but KAJ is so effing good that maybe he is enough to overcome it. I do like what you decided to do with the backcourt.