Greetings,

Curious about your thoughts on setting target and max pitch counts. It seems to me, looking at other teams, that the HBD pitch counts are considerably higher than current trends in real MLB. What guiding principles do you use in setting your pitch counts? And, is it based solely on the Stamina ratings or do you also factor in Durability? (my understanding is Durability affects recovery while Stamina affects how many pitches they can throw per outing)

Thanks again for all the advice!

There are to many variables like rotation size. Show me a player and Ill tell you what I would do. I also believe in in game fatigue which I know others do not.

It depends on a lot of things like BrainP mentioned. If a pitcher is really good I might make their pitch count higher then someone with the same stamina and durability. Also depends how good or how crummy my bullpen is.

I'm trying to give my rule of thumb but I honestly don't have one. A lot of it is usually the eyeball test. I'll usually ask for simmy's recommendations then tweak them a little (usually to make guys 80 TPC 100 MPC at minimum) any guy over those numbers I let simmy do the recs for for starters.

Bullpen I let simmy handle it and I don't touch it.

OK...but is it an accurate assessment that pitchers in HBD throw more pitches per outing than MLB?

Also, does the game account for younger pitchers having lower pitch counts? Thus maybe an incentive to have 6 SPs in the lower levels?

Posted by Scotb50 on 11/17/2020 4:35:00 PM (view original):
OK...but is it an accurate assessment that pitchers in HBD throw more pitches per outing than MLB?

Also, does the game account for younger pitchers having lower pitch counts? Thus maybe an incentive to have 6 SPs in the lower levels?

Oh for sure. HBD was built with baseball from 20 years ago. In some of my really really good SD seasons I have had my squad throw 15 complete games in a season. Pretty sure the entirety of MLB didn’t have 15 complete games in the last full season.

your minors tend to have less durability and stamina then your majors unless you fill them with over the hill guys or old guys that never made the majors. 6 starters in the minors is a good idea.

I havent ever had a pitcher throw a cg.

If you look at my SD team between seasons 38 and 43 we had over 10 CG a season. My bullpen had the easiest job on the planet.

Course, I live off of guys like Jair Sanchez and Pascal Manzanillo which probably haven't existed in the MLB in a hundred years.

Those players could possibly do it for me id have to see what there recovery was on the 4th day. Durability in the 30's helps for sure.

I grew up in the 1960's, when guys like Gibson, Marichal, Koufax regularly pitched 25 CG a season and teams used 10 man pitching staffs. I hate the ******* that ML starting pitchers have become.

With that rant out of the way, I add durability and stamina, then use 75-80% of that as a TPC, then add 10-15 for MPC. Most of my starters are in the 90 TPC, 105 MPC range; except for my 5th starter, who has low stamina. He's set at 80/95.