Phase 1 of recruiting.

If D2 and D3 schools have both offered scholarships and show Moderate does this always mean D2 is being considered High/Very High while D3 is only at moderate? Always means D3 is lower?

Not at all. If this is a D1 pool player, it could mean any variation. The D2 might be the most fragile moderate there can be. While the D3 might be the very high by a wide margin.

When RS2 begins, if my above example were the case, once the first cycle processes, BOTH schools would still show as moderate still. And the D2 would have to add more effort to move into signing range.

Posted by topdogggbm on 12/3/2020 1:51:00 AM (view original):
Not at all. If this is a D1 pool player, it could mean any variation. The D2 might be the most fragile moderate there can be. While the D3 might be the very high by a wide margin.

When RS2 begins, if my above example were the case, once the first cycle processes, BOTH schools would still show as moderate still. And the D2 would have to add more effort to move into signing range.

Hmmm... thank you.

This is my first session recruiting at D3 in a long time and, boy, ain’t it fun batting blind.

Since you're the D3 school, and assuming this is a D1 recruit, you need to keep the D2 school at moderate or worse when RS2 begins. Assuming the kid has an early signing preference, the recruit will sign with the D2 school even if they only get to 'high' when RS2 begins.

Posted by darnoc29099 on 12/3/2020 8:10:00 AM (view original):
Since you're the D3 school, and assuming this is a D1 recruit, you need to keep the D2 school at moderate or worse when RS2 begins. Assuming the kid has an early signing preference, the recruit will sign with the D2 school even if they only get to 'high' when RS2 begins.

To add on to this.... one or more schools is ALWAYS at very high. So in darnoc's example if the D2 team gets to "high" he will sign the recruit before you will have a chance. But that also means you were the team that was actually at "very high" and you likely only needed a bit more effort to hold the D2 off for that particular cycle.

Problem is, as a D3 school you have to hold off the D2 school for 5 cycles of RS2 before you are able to get in range. Its an uphill battle for sure.

Thanks. Yeah holding off all those RS2 cycles is an uphill battle for sure.

My next recruiting question... Over to D1 vs D2 battle. I’m the D2 on a D1 recruit in RS1. A D1 Sim offered a scholarship and was at Very High but I knocked the Sim down to Low. I’m at Moderate, offered scholarship.

Is the Sim going to keep dumping effort into him to battle me? At what point does the Sim move on since it’s behind?

Posted by craigaltonw on 12/3/2020 10:43:00 AM (view original):
Thanks. Yeah holding off all those RS2 cycles is an uphill battle for sure.

My next recruiting question... Over to D1 vs D2 battle. I’m the D2 on a D1 recruit in RS1. A D1 Sim offered a scholarship and was at Very High but I knocked the Sim down to Low. I’m at Moderate, offered scholarship.

Is the Sim going to keep dumping effort into him to battle me? At what point does the Sim move on since it’s behind?

in general you can't be sure a sim will move on until you have them at very low, but i haven't really tried pushing that limit much. someone else may have a more precise answer, but personally i'd suggest knocking the sim to very low.

Posted by gillispie1 on 12/3/2020 11:53:00 AM (view original):

Posted by craigaltonw on 12/3/2020 10:43:00 AM (view original):
Thanks. Yeah holding off all those RS2 cycles is an uphill battle for sure.

My next recruiting question... Over to D1 vs D2 battle. I’m the D2 on a D1 recruit in RS1. A D1 Sim offered a scholarship and was at Very High but I knocked the Sim down to Low. I’m at Moderate, offered scholarship.

Is the Sim going to keep dumping effort into him to battle me? At what point does the Sim move on since it’s behind?

in general you can't be sure a sim will move on until you have them at very low, but i haven't really tried pushing that limit much. someone else may have a more precise answer, but personally i'd suggest knocking the sim to very low.

What gil said. I've lost a kid to a D1 when the D1 was at low in both D2 and D3 at end of RS1. Get that team down to very low to be sure they're out for the count.

Posted by sol_phenom3 on 12/3/2020 12:12:00 PM (view original):

Posted by gillispie1 on 12/3/2020 11:53:00 AM (view original):

Posted by craigaltonw on 12/3/2020 10:43:00 AM (view original):
Thanks. Yeah holding off all those RS2 cycles is an uphill battle for sure.

My next recruiting question... Over to D1 vs D2 battle. I’m the D2 on a D1 recruit in RS1. A D1 Sim offered a scholarship and was at Very High but I knocked the Sim down to Low. I’m at Moderate, offered scholarship.

Is the Sim going to keep dumping effort into him to battle me? At what point does the Sim move on since it’s behind?

in general you can't be sure a sim will move on until you have them at very low, but i haven't really tried pushing that limit much. someone else may have a more precise answer, but personally i'd suggest knocking the sim to very low.

What gil said. I've lost a kid to a D1 when the D1 was at low in both D2 and D3 at end of RS1. Get that team down to very low to be sure they're out for the count.

Agreed that you want to complete the mission and push the sim to very low. BUT..... I will add that I found an answer/reason to why "some" sims will stop pushing at low. And I stumbled upon it on accident. But since then, I've noticed it a couple times and used it to my advantage.

Sims seem to recruit based on listed position. So let's say you're battling a sim for a listed PG. If you push sim to low, (and you're bored out of your mind), look around at other PGs in your recruit pool. If you can find that same sim in a battle for another PG in which they're high or very high, the sim will "pause" on your player and focus its energy on the other battle. Once that recruit signs, if the player signs with the sim you're battling, you're likely in the clear. But if the sim loses the other PG to another school, the sim can and will come right back to your player and pick the effort back up.

To actually find your same sim opponent in another battle for a player of the same position, can be tedious. But if you do happen to find that info, you can use it to your benefit.

all in all its much safer to just push sim down to very low and be done with it. But if you wanna get really detailed, you can. I have found that situation more than once in my career