Posted by Beek44 on 12/13/2020 12:37:00 AM (view original):
Is it better to go to a C prestige team in like Horizon League or MAC that has 4-5 humans in it or go to a D prestige team in a smaller conference with like 1-2 humans?

Short answer, no. Go somewhere where you can succeed the fastest in D1.

There are two big factors that currently go into your ability to get Big D1 jobs, your success score and your experience score. This is something that I just started glancing at today after this thread popped up, but here is my quick summary of it.

Your success score seems to be a combination of your Division you play in (D3 is a flat baseline, D2 gets a small boost, and D1 is a lot more complicated but can have a pretty big boost), regular season success, and post season success with weight on your more recent seasons.

Your experience score seems to be the problem child that I mentioned in my post to shoe, *Disclaimer* I AM NOT GOING TO LOOK UP ALL OF YOUR SCORES** I am doing this to give you all an idea of how the job experience function works right now.

Currently in Knight across 8 seasons of DIII, you have an experience score of essentially 450. How this is calculated? It looks like wins, losses, and NT games all have different values. Additionally games at DIII, DII, and DI all have multipliers too. To further convolute the waters, you also have an adjusted experience score of 614, honestly I don't know what the hell that is.

So then... the engine does some formula between your success score, experience score, reputation, and loyalty and gives you a thumbs up or thumbs down on your ability to get a job.

In summary beek44, your biggest concern when picking a D1 school to get to a Big 6 conference the fastest is going to be your success score. One bad year can drop it, so a school in an empty conference, sim filled conference, with a senior laden team to have a good first year and rebuild fast are your best bets.

This is based on the trends I am seeing in the job function hopefully this is somewhat informative and helps you all understand the current job process.

Posted by Beek44 on 12/13/2020 12:37:00 AM (view original):
Is it better to go to a C prestige team in like Horizon League or MAC that has 4-5 humans in it or go to a D prestige team in a smaller conference with like 1-2 humans?

If the goal is to move to a better power 6 team ASAP .. a less populated conference will be better. You will win more in conference games and more easily win conference titles , conference coach of the year, etc.

This will allow you to increase prestige faster.

It is more fun to play in a conference with more humans .. if you are OK to stay at a lower D-1 school for a longer time.

So. it just depends on your long and short term goals.

I just joined the Ivy conference in Knight.

Posted by adlorenz on 12/13/2020 1:11:00 AM (view original):

Posted by Beek44 on 12/13/2020 12:37:00 AM (view original):
Is it better to go to a C prestige team in like Horizon League or MAC that has 4-5 humans in it or go to a D prestige team in a smaller conference with like 1-2 humans?

Short answer, no. Go somewhere where you can succeed the fastest in D1.

There are two big factors that currently go into your ability to get Big D1 jobs, your success score and your experience score. This is something that I just started glancing at today after this thread popped up, but here is my quick summary of it.

Your success score seems to be a combination of your Division you play in (D3 is a flat baseline, D2 gets a small boost, and D1 is a lot more complicated but can have a pretty big boost), regular season success, and post season success with weight on your more recent seasons.

Your experience score seems to be the problem child that I mentioned in my post to shoe, *Disclaimer* I AM NOT GOING TO LOOK UP ALL OF YOUR SCORES** I am doing this to give you all an idea of how the job experience function works right now.

Currently in Knight across 8 seasons of DIII, you have an experience score of essentially 450. How this is calculated? It looks like wins, losses, and NT games all have different values. Additionally games at DIII, DII, and DI all have multipliers too. To further convolute the waters, you also have an adjusted experience score of 614, honestly I don't know what the hell that is.

So then... the engine does some formula between your success score, experience score, reputation, and loyalty and gives you a thumbs up or thumbs down on your ability to get a job.

In summary beek44, your biggest concern when picking a D1 school to get to a Big 6 conference the fastest is going to be your success score. One bad year can drop it, so a school in an empty conference, sim filled conference, with a senior laden team to have a good first year and rebuild fast are your best bets.

This is based on the trends I am seeing in the job function hopefully this is somewhat informative and helps you all understand the current job process.

Adam is the man! This is surreal that the community is getting access to things of this nature! I know we obviously can't know everything. But the fact that we have information about "the process", this is boosting the team moral for the HD community.

I see that progress WILL be made! Keep up the good work

Posted by craigaltonw on 12/12/2020 7:21:00 PM (view original):
An A+ D2 will qualify you for more D1 jobs than an A+ D3. Is playing at D1 your top priority? Or playing in a D1 power conference?

I disagree with this, mainly because it's vague and doesn't show detail. But I think Adam covered it.

For example, a D3 piman or qb that has dozens of titles and experience, is a much stronger resume than a coach that just joined an A+ D2 school yesterday. Now I'm assuming you didn't really mean that example. But with your statement being written as is, it leaves the door open for someone to interpret it that way

Adam's comment cemented my thoughts on this, Beek. Stay at D3 UNLESS you can find a D2 team that you can get to the NT with this season and the next few. Jumping to D2 now and rebuilding again will erase your D3 success. And yes, jump to a more empty conference, dominate there, get that prestige up, then move to a more desirable school.

Posted by adlorenz on 12/13/2020 1:11:00 AM (view original):

Posted by Beek44 on 12/13/2020 12:37:00 AM (view original):
Is it better to go to a C prestige team in like Horizon League or MAC that has 4-5 humans in it or go to a D prestige team in a smaller conference with like 1-2 humans?

Short answer, no. Go somewhere where you can succeed the fastest in D1.

There are two big factors that currently go into your ability to get Big D1 jobs, your success score and your experience score. This is something that I just started glancing at today after this thread popped up, but here is my quick summary of it.

Your success score seems to be a combination of your Division you play in (D3 is a flat baseline, D2 gets a small boost, and D1 is a lot more complicated but can have a pretty big boost), regular season success, and post season success with weight on your more recent seasons.

Your experience score seems to be the problem child that I mentioned in my post to shoe, *Disclaimer* I AM NOT GOING TO LOOK UP ALL OF YOUR SCORES** I am doing this to give you all an idea of how the job experience function works right now.

Currently in Knight across 8 seasons of DIII, you have an experience score of essentially 450. How this is calculated? It looks like wins, losses, and NT games all have different values. Additionally games at DIII, DII, and DI all have multipliers too. To further convolute the waters, you also have an adjusted experience score of 614, honestly I don't know what the hell that is.

So then... the engine does some formula between your success score, experience score, reputation, and loyalty and gives you a thumbs up or thumbs down on your ability to get a job.

In summary beek44, your biggest concern when picking a D1 school to get to a Big 6 conference the fastest is going to be your success score. One bad year can drop it, so a school in an empty conference, sim filled conference, with a senior laden team to have a good first year and rebuild fast are your best bets.

This is based on the trends I am seeing in the job function hopefully this is somewhat informative and helps you all understand the current job process.

I had a lot of fun rebuilding Weber State in Wooden. I am also of the opinion to succeed in a Big 6 conference it's a really good idea to get success from D prestige recruiting first.

Posted by darnoc29099 on 12/13/2020 10:05:00 AM (view original):
Adam's comment cemented my thoughts on this, Beek. Stay at D3 UNLESS you can find a D2 team that you can get to the NT with this season and the next few. Jumping to D2 now and rebuilding again will erase your D3 success. And yes, jump to a more empty conference, dominate there, get that prestige up, then move to a more desirable school.

Moving to D2 rebuild is a bad idea. If you’re going to go to D2, pick an already established A prestige. Recruiting D prestige D1 or A prestige D2 will both be a completely different experience than recruiting D3.

Ask good questions before recruiting so you go in prepared. Both should be good experience to learn from and prepare you for power 6 D1.

I'm always a sucker for rebuilds, especially when the school is located in my backyard or somewhere sentimental. The biggest problem with this is I am throwing away $40-50 and a few months to be truly competitive.