Player A (Redshirt Freshman) https://ibb.co/yY8mP2Y

Player B (Possible Signee) https://ibb.co/txms5Hg

Basically is the Athleticism and Defense of Player A enough to overshadow the overall talent of Player B. I'm still trying to figure out the impact a high athletic player. So long term, would it be wiser to keep Player A or cut him for Player B? Neither would be starters for at least 2 seasons

Not sure your sets. But I prefer player A. He has ATH/DEF/ST/PER potential. And for me, a player like that can play on any of my teams.

Player B has no ATH/DEF/SPD. I would never really want to to start him in any situation if I could avoid it. He'd be ok off the bench but he'd foul a lot if in the startinglineup. And even tho he does have some good skills in some areas, he may not end up elite in any category except for maybe BH

It's tough tho, because sometimes guys like player B can put up decent numbers. But they just don't seem to be consistent enough in my opinion. He is a solid rebounder too, relative to any position you'd play him.

I can't remember if I've used this comparison here in the forums or not, but this is generally how I view players. It's no secret that for a "rough guideline" (no benis, it's not exact! I know!).... that regarding the ATH/SPD combo, you want roughly 160 for D1, 140 for D2, and 120 for D3. Yes there's exceptions, but it's a decent guideline to go by.

I tend to look at that as body mass. So think of 160 as like an NBA body. He can hold his own against the best out there no matter the rest of his skills. If he has great skills elsewhere he'll be an elite player at all levels, if not, he'll at least be able to play minutes against the best and not hurt you terribly.

140 combo is like a college senior body. If he has elite skills elsewhere, he'll be able to hold his own some games against even the best of the best. If he isn't elite elsewhere, he's not worthy of being a D1 player. But he'll do just fine at the lower levels.

120 combo is like a college freshman body. There's games where he will show signs of greatness. But he isn't capable of hanging with the elite of the elite in most cases.

And then sub 120...... this is like an elite high school athlete. Maybe you've seen a 17 year old kid lighting it up in the gym with 100 PER jumpshot. He's excellent to watch, but his body mass alone won't allow him to dominate at the higher levels. He can have big games here and there, but other times he's just overwhelmed by size and gets pushed around.

Now I realize all that is for guards. But I tend to view the SF spot as a 3rd guard spot in most situations. At least at the lower levels. And at the SF spot I want more ATH than SPD. So player A fits ok into spot 3 with those attributes. More info than you asked for? Sorry I had a gil moment!
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Posted by topdogggbm on 12/14/2020 5:17:00 AM (view original):
Not sure your sets. But I prefer player A. He has ATH/DEF/ST/PER potential. And for me, a player like that can play on any of my teams.

Player B has no ATH/DEF/SPD. I would never really want to to start him in any situation if I could avoid it. He'd be ok off the bench but he'd foul a lot if in the startinglineup. And even tho he does have some good skills in some areas, he may not end up elite in any category except for maybe BH

It's tough tho, because sometimes guys like player B can put up decent numbers. But they just don't seem to be consistent enough in my opinion. He is a solid rebounder too, relative to any position you'd play him.

I can't remember if I've used this comparison here in the forums or not, but this is generally how I view players. It's no secret that for a "rough guideline" (no benis, it's not exact! I know!).... that regarding the ATH/SPD combo, you want roughly 160 for D1, 140 for D2, and 120 for D3. Yes there's exceptions, but it's a decent guideline to go by.

I tend to look at that as body mass. So think of 160 as like an NBA body. He can hold his own against the best out there no matter the rest of his skills. If he has great skills elsewhere he'll be an elite player at all levels, if not, he'll at least be able to play minutes against the best and not hurt you terribly.

140 combo is like a college senior body. If he has elite skills elsewhere, he'll be able to hold his own some games against even the best of the best. If he isn't elite elsewhere, he's not worthy of being a D1 player. But he'll do just fine at the lower levels.

120 combo is like a college freshman body. There's games where he will show signs of greatness. But he isn't capable of hanging with the elite of the elite in most cases.

And then sub 120...... this is like an elite high school athlete. Maybe you've seen a 17 year old kid lighting it up in the gym with 100 PER jumpshot. He's excellent to watch, but his body mass alone won't allow him to dominate at the higher levels. He can have big games here and there, but other times he's just overwhelmed by size and gets pushed around.

Now I realize all that is for guards. But I tend to view the SF spot as a 3rd guard spot in most situations. At least at the lower levels. And at the SF spot I want more ATH than SPD. So player A fits ok into spot 3 with those attributes. More info than you asked for? Sorry I had a gil moment!
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+1 this, very good post.

Player A is much much better, mainly because of his PER potential. Obviously he'll be an elite ath/de guy, but he has a great chance to be even more than that! Even if his per flames out he will be useful, but with PER he could be a final 4 type player.