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Hey buddy, I never said that the majority of Americans are racist. In fact, I specifically said that modern systemic racism does not require active individual racism from all involved to be present.
It's all about implicit bias, which we know for a fact exists in most, if not all people.
And systemic racism is real, just factually. You got real triggered when I tried to cite studies to back this point up. I would love to cite more if you are willing to have that discussion.
what in the blue hell is "implicit bias"? You mean stereotyping? What studies? By leftists who don't have real jobs?
Give me an example of a systemically racist policy and or institution and I'll gladly fight against it. Racism is evil.
War on Drugs.
Implicit bias is basically just stereotyping, on a very simple level. You should look into it.
And no, not all studies are from triggered leftists. If I link you a study, will you criticize the methodology or just complain about leftism?
I believe we should legalize drugs. Next....
Cool, glad we agree. OK, what about balancing out school funding?
We have charter schools in MA to do so. I voted For that too.
Next....
From what I have read about charter schools, they are a step in the right direction but not a blanket solution for this problem.
OK, what about healthcare and health disparities?
Our healthcare system sucks. Hell when my dog goes to the vet it is so much easier. To me the health insurance game is way too complex. I'd make it more like car insurance. I would make it more affordable by providing a cap on how much each person spends per annum. To compensate I would tax doctors at a 10% rate for their first 15 years in practice. Would help them pay off school loans and incentivize more to join the profession, resulting in shorter wait times and lower costs.
Around 25-30 million Americans do not have healthcare. How do we solve this problem? There are significant health disparities between white people and POC. How do we solve this problem?
More doctors sounds good but I'm unsure why it would lower costs significantly.
Free market. Same reason LASIK is relatively cheap now as more doctors got into the practice and its cash pay vs. insurance. For the 10% tax rate each doctor would need to dedicate 10% of their practice to pro bono well not really free but to patients on Medicaid and I would expand that for those who cannot afford health insurance if they can prove they can't afford it.
POC, no. Actually immigrants of color are just as successful as whites. Its less color and more culture.
Per Pew Research:
Immigrant blacks are more likely than U.S.-born blacks to have a college degree or to be married. Compared with all U.S. immigrants, immigrant blacks are more likely to hold U.S. citizenship and to speak English proficiently. 83% are full families vs. 25% for US born and actually only 60% for US born whites.
I would love to see research backing up your opinion on the healthcare subject.
When I say that in America, there are significant health disparities between white people and POC, that's not an opinion, it's a fact. You should acknowledge that fact before pivoting to the success of immigrants, an ironic talking point from someone who wants closed borders.
Now, about immigrant black ppl. I looked up your data, and I would be interested in the comparison of what black immigrant wealth is before and after entering America. I.E. are is the disparity because non-land based immigration tends to isolate richer people to begin with? Or is it something else? Are black immigrants entering America likely to outperform American-born immigrants of a similar economic background?
This is just an example of statistics without context. You see how I look for the context and you just blindly quote anecdotes and numbers?
By the way, compared with all immigrants, black immigrants are poorer, less likely to graduate college, and less likely to be married. So you're absolutely distorting the perception of the facts by isolating the one comparison they list in which black immigrants outperform their counterparts.
Income inequality in the U.S. has grown over the past several decades. And as the gap between rich and poor yawns, so does the gap in their health, according to a study published in JAMA Network Open Friday.
The study drew from annual health survey data collected by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention from 1993 to 2017, including around 5.5 million Americans ages 18-64. The researchers focused on two questions from the survey recommended by the CDC as reliable indicators of health: 1. Over the last 30 days, how many healthy days have you had? 2. On a scale of 1 to 5, how would you rate your overall health?
What they found: Across all groups, Americans' self-reported health has declined since 1993. And race, gender and income play a bigger role in predicting health outcomes now than they did in 1993. Overall, white men in the highest income bracket were the healthiest group.
"And actually, what's happening to the health of wealthier people is that it's remaining relatively stagnant, but the health of the lowest income group is declining substantially over time," says Frederick Zimmerman, the study's lead author and a professor at the UCLA Fielding School of Public Health.
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2019/06/28/736938334/the-gap-between-rich-and-poor-americans-health-is-widening#:~:text=The%20Gap%20Between%20Rich%20And%20Poor%20Americans'%20Health%20Is%20Widening,-Facebook&text=Alija%2FGetty%20Images-,Researchers%20compared%20Americans'%20health%20status%20today%20with%20that%20of%2025,worsening%20among%20lower-income%20Americans.&text=And%20race%2C%20gender%20and%20income,than%20they%20did%20in%201993.
Williams sees racial and ethnic inequalities as a stark matter of faster life and quicker death.
“Health inequalities are the sum total of all the other social inequalities,” Williams said. “All the other social inequalities finally end up in the area of health.”
Williams cited studies showing:
Black Americans contract serious diseases sooner, resulting in 96,800 deaths that would not have happened if they fell sick at the same rate as white Americans. Williams compared the loss of life to “a fully loaded jumbo jet, with 265 passengers and crew taking off from Boston Logan Airport and crashing today, everybody on board dying, and the same thing happens tomorrow. And the same thing happens every day next week and every day next month and every day for a year.”
Since 1950, the racial gap in life expectancy has been halved from eight years to four, but it would take another 30 years for the life spans to become equal — if the average longevity of white Americans remains static.
The longer that Hispanic immigrants live in the United States, the less healthy they become. Their health status is similar to white Americans’ when they arrive, but over time deteriorates to a level almost as low as African Americans’. Subsequent generations born in America are less healthy than their immigrant forebears.
Ten standard measures of health, such as blood pressure and cholesterol levels, show the bodies of African Americans at midlife have aged 10 years faster than white people’s. The premature aging, Williams said, shows “how physiologically compromised you are because of the onslaught of chronic, ongoing physical, chemical, psychosocial stressors.”
https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2016/03/the-costs-of-inequality-faster-lives-and-quicker-deaths/
Indeed, closing the Black-white wealth gap will require that the deep and systemic economic disparities brought about by centuries of discriminatory policies are addressed through significant structural changes across a range of policy areas. As discussed in a previous Hamilton Project analysis, these policies range from redlining and the denial of financial services to minority communities, to the Jim Crow Era’s “Black Codes” strictly limiting opportunities in many southern states—all of which contributed to the disproportionate accumulation of wealth held by white households while exacerbating the economic fragility of many Black households. Overcoming the effects of these policies will necessitate substantive and systemic changes in education, small business, healthcare, broadband access, tax reform, and broader place-based policies.
The COVID-19 pandemic underscores the importance of the Black-white wealth gap and its impact on the ability of households to weather the economic shocks caused by recessions. By expanding policymakers’ focus not only on strengthening the safety net and income supports, but also on the inclusion of systemic and structural public policy changes across a range of areas to close the Black-white wealth gap, disparities in the ability of Black and white households to weather the next economic storm will be greatly reduced.
https://www.brookings.edu/blog/up-front/2020/12/08/the-black-white-wealth-gap-left-black-households-more-vulnerable/