Believe it or not I have had a mental note of checking out Can and Rush for some time. I will start with Can’s first album.
the album cover of Pipes is also great.

Posted by dino27 on 1/6/2021 8:59:00 PM (view original):
Believe it or not I have had a mental note of checking out Can and Rush for some time. I will start with Can’s first album.
the album cover of Pipes is also great.

Be aware, their first album, while enjoyable enough IMO, is not a great representation of the band. Although the track "You Do Right" is a great foreshadowing of the hypnotic, trance like, repetitious groove that would ultimately be their calling card. That album featured an American vocalist, Malcom Mooney, who left the band during the recording of their 2nd album on the advise of his psychiatrist... Their 2nd album "Soundtracks" is mostly Suzuki, but also has a few songs with Mooney and is a bit uneven. Tago Mago is their 3rd album, but the first of 3 to fully feature Damo Suzuki. The 3 album stretch beginning with Tago is the band at it's peak.

Got it. I’ll start with album 3.

Posted by bruceleefan on 1/6/2021 7:10:00 PM (view original):
My top 15 to follow, but first wanting to address the Sinatra elephant in the room. Dean Martin was BY FAR a better voice. Sinatra had better orchestration, but his VOICE? Kinda meh. His DELIVERY was definitely better also, but Dino was better and cooler by MILES.

1. Sabbath - invented a genre and even on their first album sounded like they'd been playing that sh!t for 15 years.

2. Zeppelin - very few "bad" songs on 10 great studio releases.

3. Rush - Geddy's voice is an acquired taste but MUSICALLY more gifted than any band that follows.

4. Beatles - Changed the game in many ways.

5. Floyd - admittedly over my lifetime 4 through 7 have swapped places. They're all equally 4 through 7 depending on my mood any given day. Floyd is essentially their own genre.

6. Hendrix - amazing amount of great output over his short 3 and a half years on the scene.

7. ZZ Top - Before "Eliminator" every album was pretty great. Eliminator was great for different reasons but the success of it kinda ruined the band IMO.

8. Stones - I USED to think I didn't really like them much, but one day I made a list of all the great Stones songs and it was a remarkably long list. They were unquestionably the rawest and bluesiest of the "Big 3" from the British Invasion.

9. Tull - Another acquired taste. Their catalogue is great and their sound is very unique. Aqualung is one of the greatest albums of all time.

10. Aerosmith - Their early output was great. What makes them more incredible is that their later (80s & 90s) output were solid while the Stones were putting out garbage.

11. Eagles - Such great harmonies. Such great talent. Their first 5 were great. Longrun had some really strong tracks also, but definitely their most uneven and underwhelming of their 1st 6.

12. White Stripes - A return to raw bluesy rock & roll when it was sorely lacking in general.

13. War - One of the funkiest bands ever assembled.

14. Can - This band is relatively unknown, but were 15 years ahead of their time. I'd rank them higher, but they really only had three phenomenal albums.

15. Allman Brothers - Another who'd probably be ranked higher if Dwayne hadn't died during the Eat a Peach sessions. Their later work was good, but pales in comparison to their 1st 3.

I agree with a lot of what you said, but may have put them n a different order. Never a big Sabbath fan, although they did basically invent the genre. Not a big Rush fan either but I do recognize the great musicianship (is that a word?) Never even heard of Can. I'll have to check them out. Jack White annoys me most of the time.

I'm gonna do this because I need a distraction...........but 1st I'm thankful today.

Thankful we still have our Republic and that our Democracy held up to yesterday's assault.

In the spirit of "you are what you eat" and "birds of a feather" I'm also very thankful that I need no apologies, nor share no shame at being (in ANY way!) associated with the vermin and cretins who (in blind support of the largest miscreant in American History---a man not worth my armpit seepage) stormed the Capitol building yesterday and attempted to replace the American Flag with a (likely Made in China) chump MAGA flag.

Someday I hope to find the tolerance to forgive and forget the blindness and stupidity that led so many Americans to support a treasonous Bastard!!
I DO hope I'm clear enough for y'all to understand How I feel this AM!

Now on to fun stuff like arguing music.
I do this as a nod to another caring American who likes lists (Dino).
I don't!

None the less.
Some parameters are needed as I don't remember what the list is supposed to comprise.

This is a list of my TOP ROCK BANDS/ARTISTS
Overall artistry is the #1 priority. Longevity is highly prioritized as is impact, general musicianship. Success has some impact for me but not a huge factor and sales is NOT considered at all. As there are a few artists whose impact was huge but whose careers were cut short I'm making a second list for these bands/artists. (Janis Joplin could be on it, but ISN'T!) lol.

Here goes.

#1. The Beatles ---- C'mon. They changed the WORLD.........mainly with music. Changed how we even view/listen to music. Changed how it was MADE!!
#2. Bob Dylan ----- Not really a rock band of course, but someone who influenced more Rock than (perhaps) anyone but Robert Johnson.
#3. Led Zeppelin ----- Speaking of Robert Johnson and the delta, what duo has been bigger in Rock (sans Macca and Lennon) than Plant and Page. Add in (maybe) the world's best drummer and the virtuosity of John Paul Jones and you can argue that THIS is the most powerful quartet in music History.
#4. Ten Years After ----- Another Blues quartet at their core but much more experimental. Their string of LP's in the early 70's is as strong as anyones!!
#5. Tom Petty & The Heartbreakers ---- after Dylan the 1st American entry. Musicianship and quality of output over a LONG length of time warrants TP's inclusion and as a band (his other stuff was awesome, too!) as he WAS a part of the Heartbreakers. America's finest Rock and Roll band.
#6. Fleetwood Mac ----- One of the top 2 or 3 Blues Bands in the world in 1968 and 1969 to today. Their sheer output is unparalleled. Their lesser known LP's are Rock gems (Kilnhouse, Then Play On, etc), their successes are known worldwide and are still good music! $$$$'s generated for the Music BIZ is also unbelievably huge. And that Rhythm section. McVie/Fleetwood, for my money the best EVER (tightest!) bass/drum combo in Rock. RIP Peter Green.
#7. Neil Young/Buffalo Springfield/CSNY, etc.---- How can you have a top Rock list and NOT have Neil on it?? Over 50 years + has anyone produced such a unique and deep catalog of pure unadulterated artistry? From sublime to too far gone (Landing on Water??) this dude can put out a "shelved" album from (like) 1977 in 2020 and it becomes one of the years best releases!! You figure out HOW to list him. I just know He belongs!
#8. The Rolling Stones ---- On the list based on the strength of their 60's and early 70's stuff. And their longevity as a live Rock band. I wouldn't (myself) pay to see them any longer. And as the years rolled on, they've released some massive clunker LP's. Awful stuff really.
#9. Free/Bad Company/Paul Rodgers ---- Kinda like Neil I don't know HOW to list this, but Paul Rodgers may have the finest pure voice in Rock History and certainly his voice provides the soundtrack to classic rock Radio. Long successful artistry over a long career as well.
#10. Dire Straits/Mark Knopfler ----- I think the youngest artist on the list. Hugely influential on other musicians and (save for Mike Campbell and Alvin Lee) maybe the best pure guitar player on the list.

The "JOPLIN" List

#1. Jimi Hendrix ---- Here only because of the scant output.
#2. Creedence Clearwater Revival ---- Swamp Blues/Rock out of California. Who'd of thunk it? But for awhile.....these guys were huge!
#3. The Eagles ----- Musicianship unsurpassed. Great songs. With their pop chops matched by their ability to mine friends like Jackson Browne for writing assistance, this band made a solid but limited output of releases. But without adding Joe Walsh (and to a lesser extent T.B. Schmit) they wouldn't be on any list IMO.
#4 Whiskeytown ------ What could have been if only Mr. Adams would have believed in the band long term? 2 (+) GREAT Releases!!
#5 James Gang/Joe Walsh & Barnstorm ---- Add in all his excellent solo work and his output with The Eagles and you could probably argue that Joe should be in the primary list.

Honorable Mentions

The Allman Brothers Band ---- who knows how good they'd have become if not for a motorcycle accident?
Red Rider ---- No offense meant to Rush, but for my money Red Rider (Tom Cochrane and Ken Greer mainly) was Canada's best rock export since The Guess Who.

2 last items.
No list of mine can mention The Eagles without mentioning POCO.
Formed in 1968 (and still functioning) and always a great live band, their output of quality LP's (and CD's) far exceeds the Eagles in sheer numbers as well as in consistent quality. Considered (along with the Flying Burrito Brothers) the inventors of Country-Rock. If you watch the Eagles big documentary Glenn Frey even acknowledges that The Eagles were just trying to do what POCO had done before them, put musical artistry into a hybrid of Rock energy and Country sensibilities. Over 30 releases and 50 years later they remain hugely influential to the current Americana acts and artists.
Finally, how is it that not a one of us has included The Who on a list of Top Rock and Roll Bands?

Is why I dislike lists!!

Amazing discussion.
I luv Ten Years After and Free/Bad Company
just seeing a ten years after album cover gives me a tingle....and Free is too forgotten in favor of Bad Company....long live free.
all the stuff you discussed is fantastic.
janis Joplin also gives me the tingle.
I recently turned my nephew on to ccr. He loves them.
And big two thumbs up to the shout out to the flying burritos.

You should try and do a list of ONLY bands that still work today. No Beatles, Stones, CCR, etc.

Or maybe only American bands/artists.

Or artists we lost in 2020.
Sadly that list is way way too long!!

Prine, Billy Joe Shaver, Jerry Jeff............. Peter Green as I mentioned in my list. many others!

Posted by laramiebob on 1/7/2021 12:29:00 PM (view original):
I'm gonna do this because I need a distraction...........but 1st I'm thankful today.

Thankful we still have our Republic and that our Democracy held up to yesterday's assault.

In the spirit of "you are what you eat" and "birds of a feather" I'm also very thankful that I need no apologies, nor share no shame at being (in ANY way!) associated with the vermin and cretins who (in blind support of the largest miscreant in American History---a man not worth my armpit seepage) stormed the Capitol building yesterday and attempted to replace the American Flag with a (likely Made in China) chump MAGA flag.

Someday I hope to find the tolerance to forgive and forget the blindness and stupidity that led so many Americans to support a treasonous Bastard!!
I DO hope I'm clear enough for y'all to understand How I feel this AM!

Now on to fun stuff like arguing music.
I do this as a nod to another caring American who likes lists (Dino).
I don't!

None the less.
Some parameters are needed as I don't remember what the list is supposed to comprise.

This is a list of my TOP ROCK BANDS/ARTISTS
Overall artistry is the #1 priority. Longevity is highly prioritized as is impact, general musicianship. Success has some impact for me but not a huge factor and sales is NOT considered at all. As there are a few artists whose impact was huge but whose careers were cut short I'm making a second list for these bands/artists. (Janis Joplin could be on it, but ISN'T!) lol.

Here goes.

#1. The Beatles ---- C'mon. They changed the WORLD.........mainly with music. Changed how we even view/listen to music. Changed how it was MADE!!
#2. Bob Dylan ----- Not really a rock band of course, but someone who influenced more Rock than (perhaps) anyone but Robert Johnson.
#3. Led Zeppelin ----- Speaking of Robert Johnson and the delta, what duo has been bigger in Rock (sans Macca and Lennon) than Plant and Page. Add in (maybe) the world's best drummer and the virtuosity of John Paul Jones and you can argue that THIS is the most powerful quartet in music History.
#4. Ten Years After ----- Another Blues quartet at their core but much more experimental. Their string of LP's in the early 70's is as strong as anyones!!
#5. Tom Petty & The Heartbreakers ---- after Dylan the 1st American entry. Musicianship and quality of output over a LONG length of time warrants TP's inclusion and as a band (his other stuff was awesome, too!) as he WAS a part of the Heartbreakers. America's finest Rock and Roll band.
#6. Fleetwood Mac ----- One of the top 2 or 3 Blues Bands in the world in 1968 and 1969 to today. Their sheer output is unparalleled. Their lesser known LP's are Rock gems (Kilnhouse, Then Play On, etc), their successes are known worldwide and are still good music! $$$$'s generated for the Music BIZ is also unbelievably huge. And that Rhythm section. McVie/Fleetwood, for my money the best EVER (tightest!) bass/drum combo in Rock. RIP Peter Green.
#7. Neil Young/Buffalo Springfield/CSNY, etc.---- How can you have a top Rock list and NOT have Neil on it?? Over 50 years + has anyone produced such a unique and deep catalog of pure unadulterated artistry? From sublime to too far gone (Landing on Water??) this dude can put out a "shelved" album from (like) 1977 in 2020 and it becomes one of the years best releases!! You figure out HOW to list him. I just know He belongs!
#8. The Rolling Stones ---- On the list based on the strength of their 60's and early 70's stuff. And their longevity as a live Rock band. I wouldn't (myself) pay to see them any longer. And as the years rolled on, they've released some massive clunker LP's. Awful stuff really.
#9. Free/Bad Company/Paul Rodgers ---- Kinda like Neil I don't know HOW to list this, but Paul Rodgers may have the finest pure voice in Rock History and certainly his voice provides the soundtrack to classic rock Radio. Long successful artistry over a long career as well.
#10. Dire Straits/Mark Knopfler ----- I think the youngest artist on the list. Hugely influential on other musicians and (save for Mike Campbell and Alvin Lee) maybe the best pure guitar player on the list.

The "JOPLIN" List

#1. Jimi Hendrix ---- Here only because of the scant output.
#2. Creedence Clearwater Revival ---- Swamp Blues/Rock out of California. Who'd of thunk it? But for awhile.....these guys were huge!
#3. The Eagles ----- Musicianship unsurpassed. Great songs. With their pop chops matched by their ability to mine friends like Jackson Browne for writing assistance, this band made a solid but limited output of releases. But without adding Joe Walsh (and to a lesser extent T.B. Schmit) they wouldn't be on any list IMO.
#4 Whiskeytown ------ What could have been if only Mr. Adams would have believed in the band long term? 2 (+) GREAT Releases!!
#5 James Gang/Joe Walsh & Barnstorm ---- Add in all his excellent solo work and his output with The Eagles and you could probably argue that Joe should be in the primary list.

Honorable Mentions

The Allman Brothers Band ---- who knows how good they'd have become if not for a motorcycle accident?
Red Rider ---- No offense meant to Rush, but for my money Red Rider (Tom Cochrane and Ken Greer mainly) was Canada's best rock export since The Guess Who.

2 last items.
No list of mine can mention The Eagles without mentioning POCO.
Formed in 1968 (and still functioning) and always a great live band, their output of quality LP's (and CD's) far exceeds the Eagles in sheer numbers as well as in consistent quality. Considered (along with the Flying Burrito Brothers) the inventors of Country-Rock. If you watch the Eagles big documentary Glenn Frey even acknowledges that The Eagles were just trying to do what POCO had done before them, put musical artistry into a hybrid of Rock energy and Country sensibilities. Over 30 releases and 50 years later they remain hugely influential to the current Americana acts and artists.
Finally, how is it that not a one of us has included The Who on a list of Top Rock and Roll Bands?

Is why I dislike lists!!

Um, Bob....I listed the Who. Townsend is, in my opinion, one of the greatest rock songwriters.

I also listed them at number 12 on my list.
and that’s The Who by numbers.

Sorry guys. I didn't go back and re-read your lists. Didn't want to be influenced. But good for you. They damn sure should have been on somebody's list!

Segway
blacklist to refire end of this month
looks like there will be more beetljuice movies with Michael Keaton and Winona Ryder.
and Michael Keaton will reprise his Batman role in the upcoming movie The Flash in their new multiverse theme and will be present in other projects.....don’t ask.

So Stay at Home and play some Music

some phobias that have become very healthy during the pandemic.

1. agoraphobia
2. aerophobia
3. Trochophobia and amaxaphobia - fear of being on a bus or buses.
4. sideradromophobia - trains
5. Germaphobia
6. obsessive compulsive hand washing
7. paranoia
8. nosophobia - fear of getting a disease
9. sternutaphobia - fear of sneezing
10. claustrophobia

but you can still play Fear of Music by The Talking Heads.

A new group called Miss Vincent. For those who like songs like Stacy’s Mom. Not as good but they strive for melody and songs have hooks. For me too juvenile and I don’t like the vocals and no grit so not for me but
they have a place in today’s music and should gain a following and fans of Green Day should like them.

David Darling, a great new age composer and cello player has passed on.
he had many notable albums including 8 string religion in 1993 and a prayer of compassion which brought him the Grammy in the new age category in 2010 for the album released the year before.

quiet beautiful reflective music.

Spotify Weekly Recommendation
3 songs to ask Spotify to play
Good songs you might not know

First shuffle

1. Bruce Springsteen - London Calling
2. Steppenwolf - Renegade
3. Rolling Stones - Out of Tears