Savage IV Rosters/Commentary Topic

Selection Pick Coach +/- ADP Round
James, LeBron 1 cmcafeeky 0.0 Round 1
Chamberlain, Wilt 2 jhsukow 0.0 Round 1
Curry, Stephen 3 jkaye24 0.0 Round 1
O'Neal, Shaquille 4 tarheel1991 -0.3 Round 1
Howard, Dwight 5 robusk -1.3 Round 1
Jordan, Michael 6 pexetera 1.3 Round 1
Antetokounmpo, Giannis 7 dbkc -7.0 Round 1
Paul, Chris 8 albiband0 0.0 Round 1
Abdul-Jabbar, Kareem 9 gerryred 5.0 Round 1
Robinson, David 10 jpevans31 -1.7 Round 1
Durant, Kevin 11 ysw128 0.0 Round 1
Malone, Karl 12 beloud 5.0 Round 1
Barkley, Charles 13 24kpyrite 2.7 Round 1
Harden, James 14 ashamael 0.7 Round 1
Garnett, Kevin 15 20ks -0.3 Round 1
Bird, Larry 16 jcred5 2.3 Round 1
Davis, Anthony 17 mikee1 -6.0 Round 1
Gilmore, Artis 18 NotoriousJ -1.0 Round 1
Jordan, DeAndre 19 bds9992 -1.7 Round 1
Duncan, Tim 20 kinoa1 -0.3 Round 1
Stockton, John 21 benhoidal 5.0 Round 1
Malone, Moses 22 amerk1180 2.3 Round 1
Johnson, Magic 23 Midge 4.3 Round 1
Olajuwon, Hakeem 24 dh555 2.3 Round 1
Wade, Dwyane 25 dh555 -6.7 Round 2
Gobert, Rudy 26 Midge -7.3 Round 2
Pippen, Scottie 27 amerk1180 4.3 Round 2
Erving, Julius 28 benhoidal 5.7 Round 2
Leonard, Kawhi 29 kinoa1 -6.7 Round 2
McHale, Kevin 30 bds9992 0.0 Round 2
Rodman, Dennis 31 NotoriousJ 7.3 Round 2
Thompson, Klay 32 mikee1 3.7 Round 2
Payton, Gary 33 jcred5 0.3 Round 2
Nash, Steve 34 20ks 0.0 Round 2
Wallace, Ben 35 ashamael -4.7 Round 2
Kidd, Jason 36 24kpyrite 2.3 Round 2
Robertson, Oscar 37 beloud 1.3 Round 2
Whiteside, Hassan 38 ysw128 -2.3 Round 2
Jokic, Nikola 39 jpevans31 -14.7 Round 2
Williams, Buck 40 gerryred -11.0 Round 2
Mutombo, Dikembe 41 albiband0 4.7 Round 2
Kemp, Shawn 42 dbkc 0.7 Round 2
Drummond, Andre 43 pexetera 3.7 Round 2
Marion, Shawn 44 robusk 0.7 Round 2
Chandler, Tyson 45 tarheel1991 5.7 Round 2
Towns, Karl-Anthony 46 jkaye24 13.0 Round 2
Russell, Bill 47 jhsukow -0.7 Round 2
Nance, Larry 48 cmcafeeky -0.7 Round 2
Camby, Marcus 49 dh555 -0.3 Round 3
Allen, Ray 50 Midge -7.7 Round 3
Ewing, Patrick 51 amerk1180 -7.3 Round 3
Green, Draymond 52 benhoidal -9.3 Round 3
Jones, Bobby 53 kinoa1 -5.0 Round 3
George, Paul 54 bds9992 8.7 Round 3
Lillard, Damian 55 NotoriousJ -25.3 Round 3
Frazier, Walt 56 mikee1 8.0 Round 3
Walton, Bill 57 jcred5 -2.3 Round 3
Brand, Elton 58 20ks 12.0 Round 3
Grant, Horace 59 ashamael -7.3 Round 3
Billups, Chauncey 60 24kpyrite 7.3 Round 3
Ibaka, Serge 61 beloud -3.7 Round 3
Mourning, Alonzo 62 ysw128 -1.7 Round 3
Ginobili, Manu 63 jpevans31 6.7 Round 3
Price, Mark 64 gerryred -5.3 Round 3
Boozer, Carlos 65 albiband0 -32.3 Round 3
Simmons, Ben 66 dbkc -3.0 Round 3
Capela, Clint 67 pexetera -12.7 Round 3
Lowry, Kyle 68 robusk 3.3 Round 3
Blaylock, Mookie 69 tarheel1991 11.0 Round 3
Marshall, Donyell 70 jkaye24 -8.3 Round 3
Irving, Kyrie 71 jhsukow 2.0 Round 3
Parish, Robert 72 cmcafeeky 10.0 Round 3
Noah, Joakim 73 cmcafeeky -2.3 Round 4
Bryant, Kobe 74 jhsukow -0.3 Round 4
Gasol, Pau 75 jkaye24 0.0 Round 4
Holiday, Jrue 76 tarheel1991 -8.7 Round 4
Williams, Deron 77 robusk -13.7 Round 4
Kirilenko, Andrei 78 pexetera 8.3 Round 4
Drexler, Clyde 79 dbkc 10.3 Round 4
Robertson, Alvin 80 albiband0 -17.3 Round 4
Rondo, Rajon 81 gerryred -1.7 Round 4
Okafor, Emeka 82 jpevans31 -28.7 Round 4
Harper, Derek 83 ysw128 -12.7 Round 4
Lucas, Jerry 84 beloud 11.3 Round 4
Stoudemire, Amare 85 24kpyrite 5.7 Round 4
McAdoo, Bob 86 ashamael -2.3 Round 4
Wallace, Gerald 87 20ks 3.7 Round 4
Rollins, Tree 88 jcred5 -39.7 Round 4
Johnson, Marques 89 mikee1 -8.7 Round 4
Vucevic, Nikola 90 NotoriousJ -10.3 Round 4
Hardaway, Anfernee 91 bds9992 -2.0 Round 4
West, Jerry 92 kinoa1 -8.7 Round 4
Nowitzki, Dirk 93 benhoidal -9.0 Round 4
Bledsoe, Eric 94 amerk1180 3.3 Round 4
Harrell, Montrezl 95 Midge -26.7 Round 4
Butler, Jimmy 96 dh555 -14.3 Round 4
Brandon, Terrell 97 dh555 -31.0 Round 5
Cowens, Dave 98 Midge -46.3 Round 5
Horford, Al 99 amerk1180 10.7 Round 5
Bogut, Andrew 100 benhoidal -15.0 Round 5
Barry, Brent 101 kinoa1 21.0 Round 5
Pierce, Paul 102 bds9992 12.3 Round 5
Faried, Kenneth 103 NotoriousJ -19.7 Round 5
Embiid, Joel 104 mikee1 -23.7 Round 5
Reed, Willis 105 jcred5 -3.0 Round 5
Cheeks, Maurice 106 20ks 24.7 Round 5
Davis, Dale 107 ashamael 9.3 Round 5
Lanier, Bob 108 24kpyrite 17.3 Round 5
Green, Danny 109 beloud 17.3 Round 5
Beal, Bradley 110 ysw128 -10.7 Round 5
Iguodala, Andre 111 jpevans31 23.0 Round 5
Valanciunas, Jonas 112 gerryred -19.3 Round 5
Henson, John 113 albiband0 -35.3 Round 5
Porter, Terry 114 dbkc 28.7 Round 5
Calderon, Jose 115 pexetera -3.7 Round 5
Moncrief, Sidney 116 robusk 20.3 Round 5
Conley, Mike 117 tarheel1991 -3.7 Round 5
Pressey, Paul 118 jkaye24 -15.0 Round 5
Millsap, Paul 119 jhsukow 0.7 Round 5
Love, Kevin 120 cmcafeeky -37.3 Round 5
Walker, Kemba 121 cmcafeeky -11.7 Round 6
Porter, Otto 122 jhsukow -24.7 Round 6
Favors, Derrick 123 jkaye24 -12.3 Round 6
Mason, Anthony 124 tarheel1991 22.7 Round 6
Andersen, Chris 125 robusk -10.0 Round 6
Kanter, Enes 126 pexetera -12.0 Round 6
Bynum, Andrew 127 dbkc 12.0 Round 6
Roundfield, Dan 128 albiband0 -55.3 Round 6
Korver, Kyle 129 gerryred 21.3 Round 6
Green, A.C. 130 jpevans31 -46.3 Round 6
Johnson, Kevin 131 ysw128 -22.0 Round 6
Ward, Charlie 132 beloud -6.0 Round 6
Silas, Paul 133 24kpyrite 21.3 Round 6
Carter, Vince 134 ashamael -20.3 Round 6
Mullin, Chris 135 20ks 9.7 Round 6
McMillan, Nate 136 jcred5 9.0 Round 6
Oakley, Charles 137 mikee1 50.3 Round 6
Westbrook, Russell 138 NotoriousJ -49.0 Round 6
Hawkins, Connie 139 bds9992 -135.0 Round 6
McGee, Javale 140 kinoa1 -17.0 Round 6
Boerwinkle, Tom 141 benhoidal -13.7 Round 6
McGrady, Tracy 142 amerk1180 -43.3 Round 6
Adebayo, Bam 143 Midge -15.0 Round 6
Outlaw, Bo 144 dh555 23.0 Round 6
Unseld, Wes 145 dh555 5.3 Round 7
Sabonis, Domantas 146 Midge -54.3 Round 7
Ray, Clifford 147 amerk1180 -13.3 Round 7
Miller, Reggie 148 benhoidal 26.7 Round 7
Washington, Kermit 149 kinoa1 13.0 Round 7
Collins, John 150 bds9992 -57.3 Round 7
Barry, Jon 151 NotoriousJ 3.3 Round 7
Webber, Chris 152 mikee1 -0.3 Round 7
Batum, Nicolas 153 jcred5 -26.0 Round 7
Dalembert, Samuel 154 20ks 24.0 Round 7
Oladipo, Victor 155 ashamael -7.0 Round 7
Smith, Josh 156 24kpyrite -18.0 Round 7
Doncic, Luka 157 beloud 19.0 Round 7
Nater, Swen 158 ysw128 -45.0 Round 7
Ingles, Joe 159 jpevans31 11.3 Round 7
Weatherspoon, Clarence 160 gerryred -39.0 Round 7
Miller, Mike 161 albiband0 -58.0 Round 7
Bridges, Bill 162 dbkc -1.0 Round 7
Sabonis, Arvydas 163 pexetera 21.3 Round 7
O'Quinn, Kyle 164 robusk -18.3 Round 7
West, David 165 tarheel1991 -90.3 Round 7
Holmes, Richaun 166 jkaye24 -68.3 Round 7
Smith, J.R. 167 jhsukow -8.0 Round 7
Anderson, Kyle 168 cmcafeeky -17.0 Round 7
Davis, Ed 169 cmcafeeky -2.3 Round 8
Davis, Baron 170 jhsukow -88.3 Round 8
Middleton, Khris 171 jkaye24 -33.5 Round 8
Ming, Yao 172 tarheel1991 -36.3 Round 8
Covington, Robert 173 robusk -1.3 Round 8
Wright, Brandan 174 pexetera -1.7 Round 8
Anderson, Nick 175 dbkc -2.7 Round 8
Ceballos, Cedric 176 albiband0 -50.0 Round 8
Siakam, Pascal 177 gerryred 5.3 Round 8
Cooper, Michael 178 jpevans31 -15.0 Round 8
Buse, Don 179 ysw128 -5.7 Round 8
Harper, Ron 180 beloud -53.0 Round 8
Sanders, Larry 181 24kpyrite -10.7 Round 8
Beverley, Patrick 182 ashamael -64.3 Round 8
Wallace, Rasheed 183 20ks 32.7 Round 8
Griffin, Blake 184 jcred5 -22.0 Round 8
Daniels, Mel 185 mikee1 10.0 Round 8
Cousins, Demarcus 186 NotoriousJ -2.0 Round 8
Teague, Jeff 187 bds9992 27.3 Round 8
Maxwell, Cedric 188 kinoa1 38.0 Round 8
Jackson, Mark 189 benhoidal -3.7 Round 8
Wood, Christian 190 amerk1180 -42.0 Round 8
Murphy, Troy 191 Midge -4.7 Round 8
Tyler, Terry 192 dh555 4.5 Round 8
Havlicek, John 193 dh555 -31.0 Round 9
McCray, Rodney 194 Midge 5.0 Round 9
Hinrich, Kirk 195 amerk1180 4.5 Round 9
Mirotic, Nikola 196 benhoidal -42.0 Round 9
Johnson, George T. 197 kinoa1 -24.0 Round 9
Bellamy, Walt 198 bds9992 54.0 Round 9
McConnell, T.J. 199 NotoriousJ -59.5 Round 9
Armstrong, Darrell 200 mikee1 -21.7 Round 9
Walker, Darrell 201 jcred5 Round 9
Varejao, Anderson 202 20ks 30.0 Round 9
Lever, Fat 203 ashamael -46.5 Round 9
Terry, Jason 204 24kpyrite 26.0 Round 9
Johnson, James 205 beloud 6.7 Round 9
Przybilla, Joel 206 ysw128 -14.0 Round 9
Smith, Larry 207 jpevans31 -7.5 Round 9
Tatum, Jayson 208 gerryred 4.0 Round 9
Hayes, Elvin 209 albiband0 22.5 Round 9
Hill, Grant 210 dbkc 37.7 Round 9
Hill, George 211 pexetera -36.7 Round 9
Robinson, Mitchell 212 robusk Round 9
Biyombo, Bismack 213 tarheel1991 20.3 Round 9
Kukoc, Toni 214 jkaye24 9.0 Round 9
Jones, Eddie 215 jhsukow 23.3 Round 9
Westphal, Paul 216 cmcafeeky 31.5 Round 9
Gervin, George 217 cmcafeeky 73.3 Round 10
Plumlee, Mason 218 jhsukow 30.7 Round 10
Allen, Jarrett 219 jkaye24 16.0 Round 10
Hayward, Gordon 220 tarheel1991 -15.3 Round 10
Gatling, Chris 221 robusk 23.7 Round 10
Nelson, Jameer 222 pexetera 5.7 Round 10
Majerle, Dan 223 dbkc 30.5 Round 10
English, Alex 224 albiband0 11.5 Round 10
Hield, Buddy 225 gerryred 28.7 Round 10
Granger, Danny 226 jpevans31 61.0 Round 10
Aldrich, Cole 227 ysw128 -26.7 Round 10
Barros, Dana 228 beloud -3.0 Round 10
Dumars, Joe 229 24kpyrite 108.5 Round 10
Nance Jr., Larry 230 ashamael 10.3 Round 10
Collison, Darren 231 20ks 31.3 Round 10
Gortat, Marcin 232 jcred5 54.0 Round 10
Lee, David 233 mikee1 -3.7 Round 10
Ayton, Deandre 234 NotoriousJ -19.0 Round 10
Johnson, Ervin 235 bds9992 Round 10
Dragic, Goran 236 kinoa1 46.3 Round 10
Monroe, Greg 237 benhoidal 29.0 Round 10
Humphries, Kris 238 amerk1180 -4.7 Round 10
Hornacek, Jeff 239 Midge 16.0 Round 10
Gasol, Marc 240 dh555 32.5 Round 10
Williams, Marvin 241 dh555 58.0 Round 11
Clarke, Brandon 242 Midge -44.0 Round 11
Russell, D'Angelo 243 amerk1180 -27.5 Round 11
Porter, Michael 244 benhoidal 12.0 Round 11
McDyess, Antonio 245 kinoa1 14.0 Round 11
Bradley, Shawn 246 bds9992 -26.0 Round 11
Dudley, Charles 247 NotoriousJ Round 11
3/20/2021 10:50 PM
20ks Brand, Elton
Cheeks, Maurice
Dalembert, Samuel
Garnett, Kevin
Mullin, Chris
Nash, Steve
Varejao, Anderson
Wallace, Gerald
Wallace, Rasheed
24kpyrite Barkley, Charles
Billups, Chauncey
Kidd, Jason
Lanier, Bob
Sanders, Larry
Silas, Paul
Smith, Josh
Stoudemire, Amare
Terry, Jason
albiband0 Boozer, Carlos
Ceballos, Cedric
Hayes, Elvin
Henson, John
Miller, Mike
Mutombo, Dikembe
Paul, Chris
Robertson, Alvin
Roundfield, Dan
amerk1180 Bledsoe, Eric
Ewing, Patrick
Hinrich, Kirk
Horford, Al
Malone, Moses
McGrady, Tracy
Pippen, Scottie
Ray, Clifford
Wood, Christian
ashamael Beverley, Patrick
Carter, Vince
Davis, Dale
Grant, Horace
Harden, James
Lever, Fat
McAdoo, Bob
Oladipo, Victor
Wallace, Ben
bds9992 Bellamy, Walt
Collins, John
George, Paul
Hardaway, Anfernee
Hawkins, Connie
Jordan, DeAndre
McHale, Kevin
Pierce, Paul
Teague, Jeff
beloud Doncic, Luka
Green, Danny
Harper, Ron
Ibaka, Serge
Johnson, James
Lucas, Jerry
Malone, Karl
Robertson, Oscar
Ward, Charlie
benhoidal Boerwinkle, Tom
Bogut, Andrew
Erving, Julius
Green, Draymond
Jackson, Mark
Miller, Reggie
Mirotic, Nikola
Nowitzki, Dirk
Stockton, John
cmcafeeky Anderson, Kyle
Davis, Ed
Gervin, George
James, LeBron
Love, Kevin
Nance, Larry
Noah, Joakim
Parish, Robert
Walker, Kemba
Westphal, Paul
dbkc Anderson, Nick
Antetokounmpo, Giannis
Bridges, Bill
Bynum, Andrew
Drexler, Clyde
Hill, Grant
Kemp, Shawn
Majerle, Dan
Porter, Terry
Simmons, Ben
dh555 Brandon, Terrell
Butler, Jimmy
Camby, Marcus
Havlicek, John
Olajuwon, Hakeem
Outlaw, Bo
Tyler, Terry
Unseld, Wes
Wade, Dwyane
gerryred Abdul-Jabbar, Kareem
Korver, Kyle
Price, Mark
Rondo, Rajon
Siakam, Pascal
Tatum, Jayson
Valanciunas, Jonas
Weatherspoon, Clarence
Williams, Buck
jcred5 Batum, Nicolas
Bird, Larry
Griffin, Blake
McMillan, Nate
Payton, Gary
Reed, Willis
Rollins, Tree
Walker, Darrell
Walton, Bill
jhsukow Bryant, Kobe
Chamberlain, Wilt
Davis, Baron
Irving, Kyrie
Jones, Eddie
Millsap, Paul
Plumlee, Mason
Porter, Otto
Russell, Bill
Smith, J.R.
jkaye24 Allen, Jarrett
Curry, Stephen
Favors, Derrick
Gasol, Pau
Holmes, Richaun
Kukoc, Toni
Marshall, Donyell
Middleton, Khris
Pressey, Paul
Towns, Karl-Anthony
jpevans31 Cooper, Michael
Ginobili, Manu
Green, A.C.
Iguodala, Andre
Ingles, Joe
Jokic, Nikola
Okafor, Emeka
Robinson, David
Smith, Larry
kinoa1 Barry, Brent
Duncan, Tim
Johnson, George T.
Jones, Bobby
Leonard, Kawhi
Maxwell, Cedric
McGee, JaVale
Washington, Kermit
West, Jerry
Midge Adebayo, Bam
Allen, Ray
Cowens, Dave
Gobert, Rudy
Harrell, Montrezl
Johnson, Magic
McCray, Rodney
Murphy, Troy
Sabonis, Domantas
mikee1 Armstrong, Darrell
Daniels, Mel
Davis, Anthony
Embiid, Joel
Frazier, Walt
Johnson, Marques
Oakley, Charles
Thompson, Klay
Webber, Chris
NotoriousJ Barry, Jon
Cousins, DeMarcus
Faried, Kenneth
Gilmore, Artis
Lillard, Damian
McConnell, T.J.
Rodman, Dennis
Vucevic, Nikola
Westbrook, Russell
pexetera Calderon, Jose
Capela, Clint
Drummond, Andre
Hill, George
Jordan, Michael
Kanter, Enes
Kirilenko, Andrei
Nelson, Jameer
Sabonis, Arvydas
Wright, Brandan
robusk Andersen, Chris
Covington, Robert
Gatling, Chris
Howard, Dwight
Lowry, Kyle
Marion, Shawn
Moncrief, Sidney
O'Quinn, Kyle
Robinson, Mitchell
Williams, Deron
tarheel1991 Biyombo, Bismack
Blaylock, Mookie
Chandler, Tyson
Conley, Mike
Hayward, Gordon
Holiday, Jrue
Mason, Anthony
Ming, Yao
O'Neal, Shaquille
West, David
ysw128 Beal, Bradley
Buse, Don
Durant, Kevin
Harper, Derek
Johnson, Kevin
Mourning, Alonzo
Nater, Swen
Przybilla, Joel
Whiteside, Hassan
3/20/2021 10:51 PM
Taking any eval requests, pexetera?
3/21/2021 8:46 AM
I think db's working on evals
3/21/2021 11:21 AM
MARCH MADNESS

thoughts? opinions?

I've thoroughly enjoyed the upsets. And look forward to the better teams clashing today and tomorrow.

Ohio State losing to Oral Roberts was sweet, especailly considering I had the Buckeyes falling short
compared to most of the entries in our pool (34 entrys).

Anyone tried Cbssportsline to host NCAA tournament brackets?
Wow !!!! - Ive spent no telling how many hours checking off winners and losers through the years when running pools.

Can you imagine being an Abilene Christian alum, and knocking off the mighty Longhorns?
My first Cousin is an alum of the Wildcats, but I havent heard from him.....YET

I was VERY tempted, but chickened out, to tab the Ohio Bobcats to topple Virginia,
but when was the last time Tony Bennett's Cavaliers were upset in the first round?

I did go back at the last second and change to Carolina beating the Badgers, and
changed to Winthrop upsetting Villanova - lol
3/21/2021 12:21 PM (edited)
My entry ($340 winner take all pool)
Gonzaga over Illinois

(Final 4) - (Regional runner up)
Gonzaga over Iowa
Alabama over Florida State
Baylor over Texas Tech
Illinois over WVU
3/21/2021 12:20 PM
Going to start writing evals once some teams have 12. If there’s anything you want me to know about your team (I plan on X playing at SG the seasons that Y has to play SF, etc), let me know here.
3/21/2021 1:19 PM
I had to invest way more in to SF than I wanted to. 3 seasons from my 1st rounder (Giannis) plus 3 other picks just for SF. But on the Giannis at SF teams, I needed a facilitator as his backup, so Giannis/Grant Hill is the rotation on 3 teams. Bill Bridges/Jamario Moon are the role-player oriented SF rotation on the Giannis-at-PF teams.

Ben Simmons (3)/Terry Porter/Clyde Drexler
Clyde Drexler/Nick Anderson/Dan Majerlie
Giannis (3)/Grant Hill/Bill Bridges/Jamario Moon
Giannis (2)/Shawn Kemp/Bill Bridges
Shawn Kemp/Andrew Bynum/(12th rounder)
3/21/2021 1:33 PM
"oh nice...he wasnt even drafted last season...ill get him for sure"

21. benhoidal - Greg Monroe

"damn you sim devil!"
3/21/2021 1:36 PM
im still working out all my lineups but itll be something like this...

1. wade/brandon/butler
2. butler/wade/havlicek

lots of mixing and matching to do in the backcourt but wade/butler/brandon will be covering most of the mins with hondo as a mins filler...will always have at least 40%+ ast and 8 usg points at all times

3. outlaw/tyler/marvin/?

outlaw will most likely be on every team..tyler has 2 seasons ill definitely be using and possibly starting...marvin is starting in his one great season, unsure if he will be used on any other team

4. camby/unseld

these two are splitting all the mins at either the 4 or 5

5. hakeem/m gasol/?

gasol is strictly a backup to hakeem


my last pick will either be another SF or a backup to Hakeem
3/21/2021 1:47 PM
so yeah

1. Penny/Teague/Connie (1)

One squad where that infamous 73-74 season moves up to point guard for a little bit. Dying to see how that squad shakes out. All defense on that team.

2. PG/Pierce/Connie (1)

for the most part PG is the PP backup and vice versa. One squad gets 01-02 Pierce and 6 minutes of Connie at the 2.

3. PG/Connie/Collins (1)

those young PG seasons are pretty great, never realized 12-13 gives you over 3000 minutes of 80 D and 15.2 Ast% with very reasonable boards for a 3 and lots of threes. pretty unique year that could only be feasible in this league due to lack of efficiency

4. McHale/Collins (2)/Bellamy (3)

the Walt spot was really difficult as he’s not quite what I envisioned for the spot. certainly didn’t need the minutes but he’s good enough for 10-14 minutes - I hope.

5. DJ/Ervin/Bradley

Shawn Bradley gives me 84+ D across three seasons, and he’s not a total scoring black hole. I’m never drafting the defensive center I had last season ever again, and it looks like he’s not in vogue with most of you, either. That 96-97 Nuggets Ervin season is really really good. Gladly take low TO 37.2 CReb% 66 D season at this point in the draft.


overall: I like this team more than last year. I really hope the rest of you don’t build great squads but if you do, well, I think we can hack it. I’ll have two very strong teams and three average-Ish teams, but no bad seasons anywhere on the board. Maybe one sub-50 D season anywhere and two sub-50 eFG%, but I made sure they wouldn’t play much. The idea of 96 Penny leading one squad with DJ/McHale bolstering the other ones was too good to pass up. That’s three first round turn level talents on one squad. Throw in Paul George and I don’t think we’re going to be terrible. You can show as many memes as you want but you’ll never shake that belief.

Disclaimer: You are not required to respond to anything you may find illogical. If you do not wish to start a discussion that may be tense, do not respond in a way that may be considered disrespectful.



3/21/2021 2:32 PM
I think my teams will work out to:
a. Dwight/Marion/Birdman/Moncrief/70 D Deron
b. Dwight/O'Quinn/Marion/Covington/70 D Lowry
c. Mitchell Robinson/Dwight/O'Quinn/Marion/70 D Deron
d. Dwight/Marion/Birdman/Moncrief/57 eFG Lowry
e. Mitchell Robinson/Dwight/Marion/Moncrief/70 D Lowry

Only 1 player who ever starts (57 eFG Lowry) will be less than 70 D. The average def rating for my starters is 81. The focus of the team was eFG and defense, while staying strong on the boards and having lots of threes. Overall my rebounding is a little less than last season, my assists are significantly lower than last season and the team appears to be better in every other category but those two.

I think I'd like to shore up 1-2 bench spots with the last pick. Gatling is pure big man usage when Dwight sits. Birdman/O'Quinn/Marion soak up most of the SF minutes, with Rudy Gay and Covington maybe playing a minute here or there. Moncrief/Covington and 1 season of Rudy Gay get the SG minutes. Deron and Lowry play basically every minute of PG depending on what happens in the 12th.
3/21/2021 2:53 PM
I'm going to have at least 3, probably 4 different starting lineups.

McAdoo / Ben / Horace / Harden / Beverley
Davis / Ben / Horace / Harden / Fat
Davis / Ben / Horace / Harden / Oladipo
Davis (or Mac) / Ben / Horace / Harden / Vinsanity (or Fat or Bev)

Lots of variables in play. McAdoo could start three leagues but probably will only start two. If he starts three, Vince won't be starting in that one, and either Fat gets a 2nd nod or Bev gets a third... but the other four are pretty solid. Right now, anyway. I don't think my 12th rounder is going to change any of that. Right now, anyway :D
3/21/2021 4:32 PM
Well, I don't think I did a very good job this time around. But here's the team as it is:

PG: Mookie/Conley
SG: Holiday/Mookie/Hayward
SF: Mason/West/Isaac/Hayward
PF: Chandler/Biyombo/Perdue
C: Shaq/Yao

I feel like I tried to get a little bit of everything, and in the end didn't enough of anything. Boards are meh. Defense is meh. Probably didn't get enough outside scoring to balance out Shaq. And I haven't fully constructed any of my teams yet. May end up needing to put all the best seasons in 1-2 teams and just trying to win a title somewhere. If I do well, it's just because Shaq is that good.
3/21/2021 7:45 PM
Evals part 1 (1-5):

1. cmcafeeky - LeBron James, Larry Nance, Robert Parish, Joakim Noah, Kevin Love, Kemba Walker, Kyle Anderson, Ed Davis, Paul Westphal, George Gervin, Caldwell Jones, Terrance Jones

What went right: obviously getting the best player in the SIM is a huge win. Larry Nance and Joakim Noah provide great front court D and allow you to hide a weak defender at PF since they can both switch and allow the PF to cover a SF or C if needed. Robert Parish and Kevin Love fit this role perfectly since their weak D will be hidden. Joakim Noah and Kevin Love provide an assists boost so that you can run Bron at PG. Kyle Anderson fits nicely in to all of that too. I dig all of that.

What might go wrong: is Kemba Bron’s backup all 5 seasons? I don’t really like that. Kemba doesn’t have 5 strong years and that’s going to cause some issues. Are Gervin and Westphal your SG rotation? I’d feel better about both coming off the bench.

If I could do one repick: I would’ve went with Deron Williams or Jrue Holiday over Robert Parish. That would’ve given you an upgrade at SG plus you could flex them to Bron’s backup, and you’d still have a Nance/Love/Noah frontcourt.

2. jhsukow - Wilt Chamberlain, Bill Russell, Kyrie Irving, Kobe Bryant, Paul Millsap, Otto Porter, J.R. Smith, Baron Davis, Eddie Jones, Mason Plumlee, Brandon Rush, Marquese Chriss

What went right: Loading up on high usage guards and shooting is a nice way to get the best out of Wilt (and allows you to use his lower usage seasons). Opponents are going to have a hard time figuring out to defend inside or outside with Wilt + shooters. Plumlee and Chriss and Millsap gives you a big rebounding advantage when they’re in.

What might go wrong: Spending a 2nd on Russell (and his low eFG) might put you in too big of a hole. Is Otto Porter playing SF (where you take a hit at rebounding), or SG (where you take a hit on passing)? Are the lower usage Rush and Jones backing up Kobe?

If I could redo one pick: I was tempted to put a Russell repick here but I’m not really sure if there was a better option on the board. I would’ve went with George Gervin over Eddie Jones because he’d be a pretty great Kobe backup.

3. jkaye24 - Steph Curry, Karl-Anthony Towns, Donyell Marshall, Pau Gasol, Paul Pressey, Derrick Favors, Richaun Holmes, Khris Middleton, Toni Kukoc, Jarrett Allen, Ivaka Zubac, Michael Ray Richardson

What went right: You’ve got tons of offense while also alternating string defenders with weak ones. While Steph and KAT aren’t ideal defenders: Donyell and Pressey and Favors and a few others cover nicely for them. Pressey is a great player as long as you have shooting to cover for him and well, you definitely have that covered. Some great late round steals like Zubac and Middleton and Jarrett Allen

What might go wrong: The D might not be strong enough to contend. I know Steph isn’t a horrible defender, but ideally you want him to be the worst defender on your team. Who is backing up Steph?...Michael Ray Richardson?

If I could redo one pick: I just don’t like Pau Gasol for this team. He’s not a strong enough defender to be the 3rd banana on a Steph/KAT team. I would’ve picked Kirilenko instead. He would instantly give you at least an average defense and could’ve helped with the passing too (he and Pressey would give great assists off the wings)

4. tarheel1991 - Shaquille O'Neal, Tyson Chandler, Mookie Blaylock, Jrue Holiday, Mike Conley, Anthony Mason, David West, Yao Ming, Bismack Boyombo, Gordon Hayward, Jonathon Isaac, Will Perdue

What went right: the 4th pick is tough because there’s no real clear cut option but I think you made the right call with Shaq. Looks like you were able to get enough shooting around him to capitalize. Yao is a clever Shaq backup.

What might go wrong: are you starting two PGs (Mookie and/or Jrue and/or Conley)? I don’t think Chandler and Shaq give you enough of a rebounding edge to afford to do that. Not sure if anyone on this squad aside from Shaq is that scary, you might see some double teams.

If I could do one pick over: would’ve went with Kyrie/Drexler at the 3/4 turn instead of Blaylock/Jrue. Still gives you the shooting but with more rebounding.

5. robusk - Dwight Howard, Shawn Marion, Kyle Lowry, Deron Williams, Sidney Moncrief, Chris Andersen, Kyle O'Quinn, Robert Covington, Mitchell Robinson, Chris Gatling, Rudy Gay, Nerlens Noel

What went right: you have lots of guys who need to move around or come of the bench for a season or two, and you’re the perfect owner to pull this puzzle off. Looks like you got enough shooting around Dwight. Between Lowry and Deron, you’ll have 5 great starting seasons at PG. The defense on this team is fantastic. That plus Dwight’s eFG should be a winning formula.

What might go wrong: Can you assemble all of these puzzle pieces in the right order? (Marion can play everywhere from SG to PF, which Marions do you pair with Deron and which ones with Lowry?)

If I could do one pick over: I don’t think I would’ve been able to resist pairing KAT (over Marion) with Dwight for a killer inside-outside combo that would punish teams that went with a weak defender at one of their frontcourt spots.
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