Uofa trying to move the argument to the Bill being "bad" or "good" now, since he's got nothing on it being racist.
Let's see, MLB requires ID to pick-up pre-ordered tickets and to buy alcohol at games, but doesn't think it should be needed to vote.

Here's an oldish article that's very relevant:

REALITY: PHOTO ID REQUIRED FOR ALMOST EVERYTHING IN LIFE…

Verne HillAug 01, 2016Comments Off On Reality: Photo ID Required For Almost Everything In Life…

If requiring an ID to vote is discriminatory and unconstitutional, then why is it legal to require an ID for all of these other things in life?

Check out this partial list…

• DMV – You are required to have some form of identification to obtain a driver’s license in most states.
• Airports – Try boarding a commercial flight these days without a photo ID.
• Hospitals – Most hospitals require some form of ID for any out-patient or in-patient procedure. The last time I ended up at the emergency room, they were still asking me for my ID.
• Pharmacy – We have to show our driver’s license just to purchase over-the-counter sinus medication like Co-Advil, let alone a prescription.
• Blood Donation – Everyone I know that has donated blood has had to present their ID before being accepted.
• Banks – Many banks require some form of ID to carry out any transaction except perhaps making a deposit.
• Writing a Check – Most stores want a driver’s license or some other photo ID in order to cash a check or even pay for a purchase with a check.
• Using Credit Cards – I have been in some stores that have asked to see a driver’s license or some other form of ID before they would accept my credit card.
• Gun Shop – Right! Try buying a gun or ammunition without a driver’s license or any other form of ID.
• Social Security Office – They require ID to verify who you are before they will even entertain paying you any benefits. To obtain SSI Disability requires ID plus a ton of documentation, yet many poor and minority people manage to obtain SSI Disability coverage.
• Pawn Shop – Laws have tightened up so much on pawn shops to prevent them from purchasing stole property that pawn shops require a form of ID, preferably a photo.
• Jail – Most cities, counties, and states require some form of ID before they book someone into jail.
• Courts – Most courts require an ID in order for you conduct any form of business with them.
• Unemployment – Most unemployment offices require an ID before paying benefits.
• Public Schools – Many schools require any non-student to present an ID at the office before being allowed to visit the school for any reason. I use to be a meter reader for an electric company and always had to go to the office first and show my ID before being allowed to OUR electric boxes.
• Adoption Agency – It is almost impossible to adopt a child without an ID and a stack of other information.
• Parole & Probation – Most people placed on parole or probation are required to have an ID when they check in with their court appointed handlers.
• Auto Insurance – You are required to have an ID in order to obtain auto insurance.
• Traffic Stop – In most states you are required to present your driver’s license, proof of insurance and vehicle registration if you are pulled for by a police officer.
• Passport – You have to produce an original birth certificate and photo in order to obtain a U.S. passport. (Makes you wonder how Barack Obama obtained a valid passport.)
• Post Office – I’ve had to show a photo ID to pick up packages at the Post Office.

BTW: Liberals say that requiring an ID for voting is unconstitutional and discriminating. The ironic part of this is that most unions are Democratic supporters and they require an ID for all union voting, but they are against requiring an ID to vote in local, state and federal elections.

If requiring an ID to vote is discriminatory and unconstitutional, then why is it legal to require an ID for all of these other things in life?

Posted by all3 on 4/4/2021 12:27:00 PM (view original):
Uofa trying to move the argument to the Bill being "bad" or "good" now, since he's got nothing on it being racist.
Let's see, MLB requires ID to pick-up pre-ordered tickets and to buy alcohol at games, but doesn't think it should be needed to vote.

Here's an oldish article that's very relevant:

REALITY: PHOTO ID REQUIRED FOR ALMOST EVERYTHING IN LIFE…

Verne HillAug 01, 2016Comments Off On Reality: Photo ID Required For Almost Everything In Life…

If requiring an ID to vote is discriminatory and unconstitutional, then why is it legal to require an ID for all of these other things in life?

Check out this partial list…

• DMV – You are required to have some form of identification to obtain a driver’s license in most states.
• Airports – Try boarding a commercial flight these days without a photo ID.
• Hospitals – Most hospitals require some form of ID for any out-patient or in-patient procedure. The last time I ended up at the emergency room, they were still asking me for my ID.
• Pharmacy – We have to show our driver’s license just to purchase over-the-counter sinus medication like Co-Advil, let alone a prescription.
• Blood Donation – Everyone I know that has donated blood has had to present their ID before being accepted.
• Banks – Many banks require some form of ID to carry out any transaction except perhaps making a deposit.
• Writing a Check – Most stores want a driver’s license or some other photo ID in order to cash a check or even pay for a purchase with a check.
• Using Credit Cards – I have been in some stores that have asked to see a driver’s license or some other form of ID before they would accept my credit card.
• Gun Shop – Right! Try buying a gun or ammunition without a driver’s license or any other form of ID.
• Social Security Office – They require ID to verify who you are before they will even entertain paying you any benefits. To obtain SSI Disability requires ID plus a ton of documentation, yet many poor and minority people manage to obtain SSI Disability coverage.
• Pawn Shop – Laws have tightened up so much on pawn shops to prevent them from purchasing stole property that pawn shops require a form of ID, preferably a photo.
• Jail – Most cities, counties, and states require some form of ID before they book someone into jail.
• Courts – Most courts require an ID in order for you conduct any form of business with them.
• Unemployment – Most unemployment offices require an ID before paying benefits.
• Public Schools – Many schools require any non-student to present an ID at the office before being allowed to visit the school for any reason. I use to be a meter reader for an electric company and always had to go to the office first and show my ID before being allowed to OUR electric boxes.
• Adoption Agency – It is almost impossible to adopt a child without an ID and a stack of other information.
• Parole & Probation – Most people placed on parole or probation are required to have an ID when they check in with their court appointed handlers.
• Auto Insurance – You are required to have an ID in order to obtain auto insurance.
• Traffic Stop – In most states you are required to present your driver’s license, proof of insurance and vehicle registration if you are pulled for by a police officer.
• Passport – You have to produce an original birth certificate and photo in order to obtain a U.S. passport. (Makes you wonder how Barack Obama obtained a valid passport.)
• Post Office – I’ve had to show a photo ID to pick up packages at the Post Office.

BTW: Liberals say that requiring an ID for voting is unconstitutional and discriminating. The ironic part of this is that most unions are Democratic supporters and they require an ID for all union voting, but they are against requiring an ID to vote in local, state and federal elections.

If requiring an ID to vote is discriminatory and unconstitutional, then why is it legal to require an ID for all of these other things in life?

Find where I called the bill racist in this thread. Hint: didn’t.

This game is silly. The issue is did you just take steps to undermine voting rights. Let’s face it this entire GA thing is a Republican farce to appease Trump’s lies—lies that led to an insurrection on 1/6. This nonsense from the Right is embarrassing.

Georgia's new law removes significant power from the Secretary of State and gives the GOP-led, gerrymandered state legislature majority control of the State Election Board

GA's new law removes judicial oversight from the county intervention process & grants a GOP-controlled body the power to replace county BOEs & local elections officials w/ significant voter access & election certification responsibilities.

Georgia's new voting law bans most out-of-precinct provisional ballots. Over 20k provisional ballots were counted in the general & runoff elections and these were nearly 70% dem voters

Georgia's new law completely eliminates over 300 hours of drop box availability relative to 2020. The law also significantly reduces the total number of drop boxes, using "uniformity" as an excuse to race to the bottom in voter access.

Georgia's new law adds several new VBM burdens including: restrictions to absentee ballot applications that would have impacted 75K voters in 2020/2021 elections and new ID requirements that could impact over 200K Georgians.

It's all about cost/benefit. The cost of preventing someone from doing any of those things is lower than the cost of preventing someone the right to vote. And the benefit of ID for those things is higher than it is in voting, where voter fraud is essentially non-existent.

More people will be turned away because of voter ID laws, than people being prevented from committing fraud. That means it's a bad policy.

Posted by tangplay on 4/4/2021 1:25:00 PM (view original):
It's all about cost/benefit. The cost of preventing someone from doing any of those things is lower than the cost of preventing someone the right to vote. And the benefit of ID for those things is higher than it is in voting, where voter fraud is essentially non-existent.

More people will be turned away because of voter ID laws, than people being prevented from committing fraud. That means it's a bad policy.

And then remember the only cases of voter fraud that were found in 2020 was two Trump voters and the whole bad faith of this bullshit comes clearer into focus.

only if you believe in truth

science

math

counting

The only embarressing thing in this thread is Uofa's attempted backpedalling. Ugh, he never expressly said the Bill was racist. P-LEASE! MLB pulled the ASG because they thought it was a "bad" Bill, not because so many blind sheep Liberals were whining it is racist?

I think everyone except for 2 or 3 people would agree that allMOUTH is the only “embarrassing” thing here.

Posted by all3 on 4/4/2021 3:59:00 PM (view original):
The only embarressing thing in this thread is Uofa's attempted backpedalling. Ugh, he never expressly said the Bill was racist. P-LEASE! MLB pulled the ASG because they thought it was a "bad" Bill, not because so many blind sheep Liberals were whining it is racist?

I’m not backpedaling at all, I never said what you think I did you loon. I thought it was weird you quoted my post when trying to downplay the racist elements of the bill in the first place but now you’re straight up just lying about what I’ve said. I’ve been pretty straight forward in saying I think it’s a horrid bill for voting rights. Nothing more or less, so stop trying to put words in my mouth and, yes, embarrassing yourself.

and yes the ASG was pulled because it’s a bad bill.

And I will never get over the level of disingenuous bullshit it takes to pretend that the Republican party rewriting Georgia's election laws right after suffering their most humiliating defeat in decades there is just a total coincidence of timing. Get real.

Now who's being disingenuous and putting words in someone else's mouth? I never tried to claim it wasn't. If you believe MLB moved an ASG over a "bad" Bill, you really are a delussional fool. They moved it because so many Liberal sheep kept Baa, Baa, Baaing after their President lied to them.

When have Uofa or I ever made the claim that the bill is bad solely because of the voting times thing, which is the only thing Biden lied about?

Our claims mainly rest on absentee ballot restrictions, reduction in sec of state power and the water bottle thing, all of which are actually in the bill.

Again, this is a clear sign of bad faith. You're not listening to our actual arguments.

Does a "bad" Bill need to sit in the corner and/or write on the chalkboard? Maybe miss recess or be last for lunch?

Nice OPINION piece. Lots of speculation and 'could bes", but very few FACTS.
Simply seeing the writer's TITLE (TOM KRATTENMAKER | OPINION COLUMNIST | 6:01 am EDT April 3, 2021 ) says it all. Verifies where you get most of your "NEWS" from.
But hey, I did finally click one of your links.