This so called eviction thing is 3 homes and involves deeds and purchase law and documentsz.
it is a legal matter baby.

and it is not related to anything
and settlers want those homes.

cccp - you do a disservice to Israel by calling it an Israel land issue. This is not a national confiscation or eminent domain.
Israel is not a party and the attorney general forced it into court.

I don’t know what the Supreme Court will decide but it would not shock me if the settlers lose.

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Oh come in. Stop calling it the government.
and yes. Settlements are not a constant thing.

and the Palestinians were warned in concrete terms by the Israelis and Clinton that if they refused to wise up the right wing was coming and the fury at THEIR violence would be unleashed.
now it is happening and I have little sympathy for them
Collectively but I don’t like the way it make Israel look to her haters. And the purity of The peace offers that were made.

countries are like people and losing aggressors will eventually pay for their crimes. The Palestinians have been war mongerers and terrorists for the entirety of 73 years but they have successfully portrayed themselves as victims aided and abetted by haters of Jews around the world.

I really hate us vs them narratives for this exact reason.

Palestinians who did nothing wrong are being evicted from their homes, and you have no sympathy because of the actions of others decades ago. Despicable.

And you think the worst part of the evictions is how it makes Israel look. Yes, it does look bad to evict innocent people form their homes.

It is a land dispute. Do you really believe Israel wants those who want Israel abolished to live in Israel? It is more complicated than what you make it seem to be. This is tiresome. You will not change my mind and I will not change your mind. Good night.

Why are you assuming that the evicted people want Israel to be abolished?

As for your other arguments, OK, bringing it back to the settlements, even if Israel has the "right" to evict the residents, why does that make the evictions moral?

Don't argue why they *could* do it, argue why they *should* do it.

Your owns links show it’s not an eviction but a dispute and you conflate evictions with genocide of the Nazis where they conquered other lands and exterminated the Jews. Israel doesn’t conquer other lands and the Palestinian population is growing. Their issue is land and Israel wants that land because it doesn’t trust many Islamist neighbors. I do not blame them. Don’t tell me how to argue. You don’t even understand what a dispute is. You keep calling it an eviction. You blame Israel 100% for the conflict. That to me is evil and insane. To each their own. It’s a free country.

Sigh. So many mistruths.

1. The Israeli legal system itself calls it an eviction. All of the articles call it an eviction. They're being evicted. C'mon. Call a spade a spade. If you're afraid of the word "eviction," then just say "Palestinians being kicked out of their homes."
2. I never called the evictions a genocide. I only said that you think the Nazis had the right to genocide the Jews. Which you do.
3. Israel is quite literally kicking out Palestinians to expand their land. Look at a ******* map. It's a factual statement that Israeli territory has grown and will continue to grow.
4. You keep conflating the Palestinians living in the neighborhood with radical Islamists and it's disgusting. The residents did nothing wrong besides not be Jewish. NO ONE should be kicked out of a home simply because of their ethnicity. Disgusting.
5. I do NOT blame Israel 100% for the broader conflict. I DO blame Israel for evicting Palestinians, which is unnecessary, only done out of greed, and easily could be avoided. Unless you can think of a reason for why Israel has to do this or why the Palestinians living there did anything wrong, yeah, I'm gonna blame Israel.
6. You still haven't given me a reason why Israel SHOULD evict the Palestinians. Why is it good? What good is being done? They did nothing wrong.

All I want is for someone to either

a) Give a good reason why the Palestinians should be evicted (Note: I said SHOULD, not COULD, so this isn't a might makes right argument, even if Israel "has claims to the land" that does not mean they should evict people from their homes, also don't lie and say these are some radical extremist Hamas terrorists - they're just Palestinian people and CCCP himself acknowledged the only reason they are being evicted is because they aren't Jewish).
b) Give me something that the Palestinian people being evicted did wrong besides be born as a non-Jewish person.

UN Human Rights Office: Pending evictions could constitute a war crime: https://www.timesofisrael.com/un-pending-israeli-evictions-in-east-jerusalem-could-be-a-war-crime/

https://apnews.com/article/middle-east-religion-2ba6f064df3964ceafb6e2ff02303d41 AP article does a good job of putting the human element in perspective. These aren't some radical Hamas terrorists are risk. They're ordinary people who might soon lose their family homes. I would encourage you all to read it and tell me you feel no sympathy for people losing their homes.:

When Samira Dajani’s family moved into their first real home in 1956 after years as refugees, her father planted trees in the garden, naming them for each of his six children.

Today, two towering pines named for Mousa and Daoud stand watch over the entrance to the garden where they all played as children. Pink bougainvillea climbs an iron archway on a path leading past almond, orange and lemon trees to their modest stone house.

“The Samira tree has no leaves,” she says, pointing to the cypress that bears her name. “But the roots are strong.”

She and her husband, empty nesters with grown children of their own, may have to leave it all behind on Aug. 1. That’s when Israel is set to forcibly evict them following a decades-long legal battle waged by ideological Jewish settlers against them and their neighbors.

The Dajanis are one of several Palestinian families facing imminent eviction in the Sheikh Jarrah neighborhood of east Jerusalem. The families’ plight has ignited weeks of demonstrations and clashes in recent days between protesters and Israeli police.

It also highlights an array of discriminatory policies that rights groups say are aimed at pushing Palestinians out of Jerusalem to preserve its Jewish majority. The Israeli rights group B’Tselem and the New York-based Human Rights Watch both pointed to such policies as an example of what they say has become an apartheid regime.

Israel rejects those accusations and says the situation in Sheikh Jarrah is a private real-estate dispute that the Palestinians have seized upon to incite violence. The Foreign Ministry did not respond to questions submitted by The Associated Press. A top municipal official and a settler group marketing “residential plots” in Sheikh Jarrah did not respond to requests for comment.

Settler groups say the land was owned by Jews prior to the 1948 war surrounding Israel’s creation. Israeli law allows Jews to reclaim such lands but bars Palestinians from recovering property they lost in the same war, even if they still reside in areas controlled by Israel.

Samira Dajani’s parents fled in 1948 from their home in Baka — now an upscale neighborhood in mostly Jewish west Jerusalem. After several years spent as refugees in Jordan, Syria and east Jerusalem, which was then controlled by Jordan, Jordanian authorities offered them one of several newly built homes in Sheikh Jarrah in exchange for giving up their refugee status.

“I have beautiful memories from this house,” says Dajani, now 70, recalling how she played with the other children in the close-knit neighborhood, where several other Palestinian refugee families had also been resettled. “It was like heaven after our exodus.”

Things changed after Israel captured east Jerusalem, along with the West Bank and Gaza, in the 1967 Mideast war, and annexed it in a move not recognized internationally. The Palestinians want all three territories for their future state and view east Jerusalem as their capital.

In 1972, settler groups told the families that they were trespassing on Jewish-owned land. That was the start of a long legal battle that in recent months has culminated with eviction orders against 36 families in Sheikh Jarrah and two other east Jerusalem neighborhoods. Israeli rights groups say other families are also vulnerable, estimating that more than 1,000 Palestinians are at risk of being evicted.

The Dajanis and other families have been ordered to leave by Aug. 1. A Supreme Court hearing in the case of another four families that was to be held on Monday was postponed for at least a month. If they lose the appeal, they could be forcibly evicted within days or weeks.

A woman from another family in Sheikh Jarrah said it was “an inhumane act” to take away someone’s home. She invited her parents to move in with her and her husband if they are evicted from the home where she was born and raised, but her father refused.

“He said there is no way I’m leaving this neighborhood unless I’m dead,” she said, requesting anonymity for fear of retribution by Israeli authorities. “It’s been 65 years that he’s lived in this neighborhood.”

Israel views all of Jerusalem as its unified capital and says residents are treated equally. But east Jerusalem residents have different rights depending on whether they are Jewish or Palestinian.

Jews born in east Jerusalem are automatically granted Israeli citizenship, and Jews from anywhere else in the world are eligible to become Israeli citizens.

Palestinians born in east Jerusalem are granted a form of permanent residency that can be revoked if they spend too much time living outside the city. They can apply for Israeli citizenship but must go through a difficult and uncertain bureaucratic process that can take months or years. Most refuse, because they do not recognize Israel’s annexation.

Palestinians are also treated differently when it comes to housing, which will make it difficult for the Sheikh Jarrah families to remain in Jerusalem if they are evicted.

After 1967, Israel expanded the city’s municipal boundaries to take in large areas of open land where it has since built Jewish settlements that are home to tens of thousands of people. At the same time, it set the boundaries of Palestinian neighborhoods, restricting their growth.

Today, more than 220,000 Jews live in east Jerusalem, mostly in built-up areas that Israel considers to be neighborhoods of its capital. Most of east Jerusalem’s 350,000 Palestinian residents are crammed into overcrowded neighborhoods where there is little room to build.

Palestinians say the expense and difficulty of obtaining permits forces them to build illegally or move to the occupied West Bank, where they risk losing their Jerusalem residency. Israeli rights groups estimate that of the 40,000 homes in Palestinian neighborhoods, half have been built without permits and are at risk of demolition.

In part due to the protests, Israel has come under international pressure over Sheikh Jarrah, with both the United States and the European Union expressing concern. Rights groups say the government can halt or postpone the evictions if it wants to.

In the meantime, Samira Dajani has planted her spring flowers in small pots that she’ll be able to take with her if she is forced from her home in August. The trees named for her and her siblings will have to stay. She says she tries not to think about it.

Also dino is lying when he says just a couple of people are at risk... the current order would evict 13 families and 17 children, and there are thousands of homes that could be evicted in the future.

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UN Human Rights Office: Pending evictions could constitute a war crime: https://www.timesofisrael.com/un-pending-israeli-evictions-in-east-jerusalem-could-be-a-war-crime/

https://apnews.com/article/middle-east-religion-2ba6f064df3964ceafb6e2ff02303d41 AP article does a good job of putting the human element in perspective. These aren't some radical Hamas terrorists are risk. They're ordinary people who might soon lose their family homes. I would encourage you all to read it and tell me you feel no sympathy for people losing their homes.:

When Samira Dajani’s family moved into their first real home in 1956 after years as refugees, her father planted trees in the garden, naming them for each of his six children.

Today, two towering pines named for Mousa and Daoud stand watch over the entrance to the garden where they all played as children. Pink bougainvillea climbs an iron archway on a path leading past almond, orange and lemon trees to their modest stone house.

“The Samira tree has no leaves,” she says, pointing to the cypress that bears her name. “But the roots are strong.”

She and her husband, empty nesters with grown children of their own, may have to leave it all behind on Aug. 1. That’s when Israel is set to forcibly evict them following a decades-long legal battle waged by ideological Jewish settlers against them and their neighbors.

The Dajanis are one of several Palestinian families facing imminent eviction in the Sheikh Jarrah neighborhood of east Jerusalem. The families’ plight has ignited weeks of demonstrations and clashes in recent days between protesters and Israeli police.

It also highlights an array of discriminatory policies that rights groups say are aimed at pushing Palestinians out of Jerusalem to preserve its Jewish majority. The Israeli rights group B’Tselem and the New York-based Human Rights Watch both pointed to such policies as an example of what they say has become an apartheid regime.

Israel rejects those accusations and says the situation in Sheikh Jarrah is a private real-estate dispute that the Palestinians have seized upon to incite violence. The Foreign Ministry did not respond to questions submitted by The Associated Press. A top municipal official and a settler group marketing “residential plots” in Sheikh Jarrah did not respond to requests for comment.

Settler groups say the land was owned by Jews prior to the 1948 war surrounding Israel’s creation. Israeli law allows Jews to reclaim such lands but bars Palestinians from recovering property they lost in the same war, even if they still reside in areas controlled by Israel.

Samira Dajani’s parents fled in 1948 from their home in Baka — now an upscale neighborhood in mostly Jewish west Jerusalem. After several years spent as refugees in Jordan, Syria and east Jerusalem, which was then controlled by Jordan, Jordanian authorities offered them one of several newly built homes in Sheikh Jarrah in exchange for giving up their refugee status.

“I have beautiful memories from this house,” says Dajani, now 70, recalling how she played with the other children in the close-knit neighborhood, where several other Palestinian refugee families had also been resettled. “It was like heaven after our exodus.”

Things changed after Israel captured east Jerusalem, along with the West Bank and Gaza, in the 1967 Mideast war, and annexed it in a move not recognized internationally. The Palestinians want all three territories for their future state and view east Jerusalem as their capital.

In 1972, settler groups told the families that they were trespassing on Jewish-owned land. That was the start of a long legal battle that in recent months has culminated with eviction orders against 36 families in Sheikh Jarrah and two other east Jerusalem neighborhoods. Israeli rights groups say other families are also vulnerable, estimating that more than 1,000 Palestinians are at risk of being evicted.

The Dajanis and other families have been ordered to leave by Aug. 1. A Supreme Court hearing in the case of another four families that was to be held on Monday was postponed for at least a month. If they lose the appeal, they could be forcibly evicted within days or weeks.

A woman from another family in Sheikh Jarrah said it was “an inhumane act” to take away someone’s home. She invited her parents to move in with her and her husband if they are evicted from the home where she was born and raised, but her father refused.

“He said there is no way I’m leaving this neighborhood unless I’m dead,” she said, requesting anonymity for fear of retribution by Israeli authorities. “It’s been 65 years that he’s lived in this neighborhood.”

Israel views all of Jerusalem as its unified capital and says residents are treated equally. But east Jerusalem residents have different rights depending on whether they are Jewish or Palestinian.

Jews born in east Jerusalem are automatically granted Israeli citizenship, and Jews from anywhere else in the world are eligible to become Israeli citizens.

Palestinians born in east Jerusalem are granted a form of permanent residency that can be revoked if they spend too much time living outside the city. They can apply for Israeli citizenship but must go through a difficult and uncertain bureaucratic process that can take months or years. Most refuse, because they do not recognize Israel’s annexation.

Palestinians are also treated differently when it comes to housing, which will make it difficult for the Sheikh Jarrah families to remain in Jerusalem if they are evicted.

After 1967, Israel expanded the city’s municipal boundaries to take in large areas of open land where it has since built Jewish settlements that are home to tens of thousands of people. At the same time, it set the boundaries of Palestinian neighborhoods, restricting their growth.

Today, more than 220,000 Jews live in east Jerusalem, mostly in built-up areas that Israel considers to be neighborhoods of its capital. Most of east Jerusalem’s 350,000 Palestinian residents are crammed into overcrowded neighborhoods where there is little room to build.

Palestinians say the expense and difficulty of obtaining permits forces them to build illegally or move to the occupied West Bank, where they risk losing their Jerusalem residency. Israeli rights groups estimate that of the 40,000 homes in Palestinian neighborhoods, half have been built without permits and are at risk of demolition.

In part due to the protests, Israel has come under international pressure over Sheikh Jarrah, with both the United States and the European Union expressing concern. Rights groups say the government can halt or postpone the evictions if it wants to.

In the meantime, Samira Dajani has planted her spring flowers in small pots that she’ll be able to take with her if she is forced from her home in August. The trees named for her and her siblings will have to stay. She says she tries not to think about it.

Also dino is lying when he says just a couple of people are at risk... the current order would evict 13 families and 17 children, and there are thousands of homes that could be evicted in the future.

You are such an ******* calling 3 vs 4 or ( homes lying.
they live many people per house.

It’s fine to worry about evictions if you think it is wrong.
and East Jerusulam is occupied ready to be given to the Palestinians if they don’t blow it.
if they create too much violence and bloodshed it may never be given back to them.
and Israel took it from Jordan who took it from them.

worry more about the Jews.

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It is a dispute. So you vilify Israel and ignore Hamas. You’re insane.

If Hamas was kicking Israelis out of their homes, I would oppose that too.

You would say it's OK for them to do that because they had the ability to do it. If Hamas owns the land, they can do what they want, right? If Hamas won a war against Israel, they could kick all the Jews out, right? Remember when you agreed to that earlier today?

We're both consistent, actually. You think might makes right, and I don't. Except you're a bit cowardly when you won't apply this logic to justify the Holocaust. I would just own it.

Tangplay they are firing rockets at them and forcing them to go underground. That is forcing them out of their homes. Might makes right. The Holocaust was most unfortunate but in the end the good guys prevailed even through you didn’t know the US and the Soviet Union were allies. It should
not have happened but it did. Cowardly? I am many things but a coward is not one of them but you’re entitled to your opinion. I would die on this hill. Die! To protect and stand by my fellow Jews as there are so few of us. What is happening in Israel is a shame but to blame Israel 100% is myopic insanity and ignorance. You’re a pacifist and you call
me a coward. How drole.


One thing that has not changed. You remain an uneducated parasite. Sad.

What Hamas is doing is bad, but forcing people underground for short periods of time is not the same as permanently evicting people from their homes.

I'll retract my coward statement because you actually owned it. You believe the Holocaust was morally right and justified because might makes right - the Nazis could do it, so they had a right to do it.

We'll just have to agree to disagree. You think might makes right, so the Germans had a right to complete the Holocaust if they won the war. I don't think might makes right so I don't think the Holocaust was justified.

I just cannot believe you actually bit the bullet. I genuinely respect that you didn't back off and had the courage of your convictions. I mean, you do disgust me, but at least I kind of respect it in a sick way.

Btw, I don't think the person arguing "the Holocaust would have been justified even if the Nazis won the war" is taking the pro-Jew stance, but whatever.

Justified is subjective. We slaughtered the Indians and it’s been played off as advanced religious white men taming brutal savages. Same thing happened in Latin America when Spain demolished many tribes. If the Nazis won it would have been portrayed as the great super race eradicated inferior lowly races. This has happened many times throughout history. Morality is a subjective term. Right now many Islamists believe radical Islam is justified in killing every infidel. Does it make them wrong? Not in their eyes. In their eyes being a homosexual is punishable by death. In their eyes women may be raped. There is a lot of evil in this world. You are part of it. You are one of the worst human beings I have ever encountered in an online message board. I sincerely mean that.

“If the Nazis won it would have been portrayed as the great super race eradicated inferior lowly races. This has happened many times throughout history. Morality is a subjective term.”

yikes.

“There is a lot of evil in this world. You are part of it. You are one of the worst human beings I have ever encountered in an online message board. I sincerely mean that.”

ha ok this is a biiiiiiiiiiit much. But other than that how was the play Mrs. Lincoln?

christ, reel it back a bit fellas

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Oh come in. Stop calling it the government.
and yes. Settlements are not a constant thing.

and the Palestinians were warned in concrete terms by the Israelis and Clinton that if they refused to wise up the right wing was coming and the fury at THEIR violence would be unleashed.
now it is happening and I have little sympathy for them
Collectively but I don’t like the way it make Israel look to her haters. And the purity of The peace offers that were made.

countries are like people and losing aggressors will eventually pay for their crimes. The Palestinians have been war mongerers and terrorists for the entirety of 73 years but they have successfully portrayed themselves as victims aided and abetted by haters of Jews around the world.

I really hate us vs them narratives for this exact reason.

Palestinians who did nothing wrong are being evicted from their homes, and you have no sympathy because of the actions of others decades ago. Despicable.

And you think the worst part of the evictions is how it makes Israel look. Yes, it does look bad to evict innocent people form their homes.

It is a land dispute. Do you really believe Israel wants those who want Israel abolished to live in Israel? It is more complicated than what you make it seem to be. This is tiresome. You will not change my mind and I will not change your mind. Good night.

Why are you assuming that the evicted people want Israel to be abolished?

As for your other arguments, OK, bringing it back to the settlements, even if Israel has the "right" to evict the residents, why does that make the evictions moral?

Don't argue why they *could* do it, argue why they *should* do it.

Your owns links show it’s not an eviction but a dispute and you conflate evictions with genocide of the Nazis where they conquered other lands and exterminated the Jews. Israel doesn’t conquer other lands and the Palestinian population is growing. Their issue is land and Israel wants that land because it doesn’t trust many Islamist neighbors. I do not blame them. Don’t tell me how to argue. You don’t even understand what a dispute is. You keep calling it an eviction. You blame Israel 100% for the conflict. That to me is evil and insane. To each their own. It’s a free country.

Sigh. So many mistruths.

1. The Israeli legal system itself calls it an eviction. All of the articles call it an eviction. They're being evicted. C'mon. Call a spade a spade. If you're afraid of the word "eviction," then just say "Palestinians being kicked out of their homes."
2. I never called the evictions a genocide. I only said that you think the Nazis had the right to genocide the Jews. Which you do.
3. Israel is quite literally kicking out Palestinians to expand their land. Look at a ******* map. It's a factual statement that Israeli territory has grown and will continue to grow.
4. You keep conflating the Palestinians living in the neighborhood with radical Islamists and it's disgusting. The residents did nothing wrong besides not be Jewish. NO ONE should be kicked out of a home simply because of their ethnicity. Disgusting.
5. I do NOT blame Israel 100% for the broader conflict. I DO blame Israel for evicting Palestinians, which is unnecessary, only done out of greed, and easily could be avoided. Unless you can think of a reason for why Israel has to do this or why the Palestinians living there did anything wrong, yeah, I'm gonna blame Israel.
6. You still haven't given me a reason why Israel SHOULD evict the Palestinians. Why is it good? What good is being done? They did nothing wrong.

You are like a broken record. It is a land dispute not an eviction. Palestinians want Jews obliterated. You are upset because Israel won its wars and has the upper hand. Maybe we should have the Taliban move next door to you and see how you like it. You see the Palestinians as just innocent land owners. You’re wrong about that. Lastly, it is a land dispute not an eviction. I will keep saying it until it resonates. And it is a dispute between private parties.

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It is a dispute. So you vilify Israel and ignore Hamas. You’re insane.

If Hamas was kicking Israelis out of their homes, I would oppose that too.

You would say it's OK for them to do that because they had the ability to do it. If Hamas owns the land, they can do what they want, right? If Hamas won a war against Israel, they could kick all the Jews out, right? Remember when you agreed to that earlier today?

We're both consistent, actually. You think might makes right, and I don't. Except you're a bit cowardly when you won't apply this logic to justify the Holocaust. I would just own it.

Tangplay they are firing rockets at them and forcing them to go underground. That is forcing them out of their homes. Might makes right. The Holocaust was most unfortunate but in the end the good guys prevailed even through you didn’t know the US and the Soviet Union were allies. It should
not have happened but it did. Cowardly? I am many things but a coward is not one of them but you’re entitled to your opinion. I would die on this hill. Die! To protect and stand by my fellow Jews as there are so few of us. What is happening in Israel is a shame but to blame Israel 100% is myopic insanity and ignorance. You’re a pacifist and you call
me a coward. How drole.


One thing that has not changed. You remain an uneducated parasite. Sad.

What Hamas is doing is bad, but forcing people underground for short periods of time is not the same as permanently evicting people from their homes.

I'll retract my coward statement because you actually owned it. You believe the Holocaust was morally right and justified because might makes right - the Nazis could do it, so they had a right to do it.

We'll just have to agree to disagree. You think might makes right, so the Germans had a right to complete the Holocaust if they won the war. I don't think might makes right so I don't think the Holocaust was justified.

I just cannot believe you actually bit the bullet. I genuinely respect that you didn't back off and had the courage of your convictions. I mean, you do disgust me, but at least I kind of respect it in a sick way.

Btw, I don't think the person arguing "the Holocaust would have been justified even if the Nazis won the war" is taking the pro-Jew stance, but whatever.

Justified is subjective. We slaughtered the Indians and it’s been played off as advanced religious white men taming brutal savages. Same thing happened in Latin America when Spain demolished many tribes. If the Nazis won it would have been portrayed as the great super race eradicated inferior lowly races. This has happened many times throughout history. Morality is a subjective term. Right now many Islamists believe radical Islam is justified in killing every infidel. Does it make them wrong? Not in their eyes. In their eyes being a homosexual is punishable by death. In their eyes women may be raped. There is a lot of evil in this world. You are part of it. You are one of the worst human beings I have ever encountered in an online message board. I sincerely mean that.

“If the Nazis won it would have been portrayed as the great super race eradicated inferior lowly races. This has happened many times throughout history. Morality is a subjective term.”

yikes.

“There is a lot of evil in this world. You are part of it. You are one of the worst human beings I have ever encountered in an online message board. I sincerely mean that.”

ha ok this is a biiiiiiiiiiit much. But other than that how was the play Mrs. Lincoln?

christ, reel it back a bit fellas

I am simply sharing an opinion. I am not cursing, I am not threatening, I am not using CAPS and !!!!

It is what it is….

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UN Human Rights Office: Pending evictions could constitute a war crime: https://www.timesofisrael.com/un-pending-israeli-evictions-in-east-jerusalem-could-be-a-war-crime/

https://apnews.com/article/middle-east-religion-2ba6f064df3964ceafb6e2ff02303d41 AP article does a good job of putting the human element in perspective. These aren't some radical Hamas terrorists are risk. They're ordinary people who might soon lose their family homes. I would encourage you all to read it and tell me you feel no sympathy for people losing their homes.:

When Samira Dajani’s family moved into their first real home in 1956 after years as refugees, her father planted trees in the garden, naming them for each of his six children.

Today, two towering pines named for Mousa and Daoud stand watch over the entrance to the garden where they all played as children. Pink bougainvillea climbs an iron archway on a path leading past almond, orange and lemon trees to their modest stone house.

“The Samira tree has no leaves,” she says, pointing to the cypress that bears her name. “But the roots are strong.”

She and her husband, empty nesters with grown children of their own, may have to leave it all behind on Aug. 1. That’s when Israel is set to forcibly evict them following a decades-long legal battle waged by ideological Jewish settlers against them and their neighbors.

The Dajanis are one of several Palestinian families facing imminent eviction in the Sheikh Jarrah neighborhood of east Jerusalem. The families’ plight has ignited weeks of demonstrations and clashes in recent days between protesters and Israeli police.

It also highlights an array of discriminatory policies that rights groups say are aimed at pushing Palestinians out of Jerusalem to preserve its Jewish majority. The Israeli rights group B’Tselem and the New York-based Human Rights Watch both pointed to such policies as an example of what they say has become an apartheid regime.

Israel rejects those accusations and says the situation in Sheikh Jarrah is a private real-estate dispute that the Palestinians have seized upon to incite violence. The Foreign Ministry did not respond to questions submitted by The Associated Press. A top municipal official and a settler group marketing “residential plots” in Sheikh Jarrah did not respond to requests for comment.

Settler groups say the land was owned by Jews prior to the 1948 war surrounding Israel’s creation. Israeli law allows Jews to reclaim such lands but bars Palestinians from recovering property they lost in the same war, even if they still reside in areas controlled by Israel.

Samira Dajani’s parents fled in 1948 from their home in Baka — now an upscale neighborhood in mostly Jewish west Jerusalem. After several years spent as refugees in Jordan, Syria and east Jerusalem, which was then controlled by Jordan, Jordanian authorities offered them one of several newly built homes in Sheikh Jarrah in exchange for giving up their refugee status.

“I have beautiful memories from this house,” says Dajani, now 70, recalling how she played with the other children in the close-knit neighborhood, where several other Palestinian refugee families had also been resettled. “It was like heaven after our exodus.”

Things changed after Israel captured east Jerusalem, along with the West Bank and Gaza, in the 1967 Mideast war, and annexed it in a move not recognized internationally. The Palestinians want all three territories for their future state and view east Jerusalem as their capital.

In 1972, settler groups told the families that they were trespassing on Jewish-owned land. That was the start of a long legal battle that in recent months has culminated with eviction orders against 36 families in Sheikh Jarrah and two other east Jerusalem neighborhoods. Israeli rights groups say other families are also vulnerable, estimating that more than 1,000 Palestinians are at risk of being evicted.

The Dajanis and other families have been ordered to leave by Aug. 1. A Supreme Court hearing in the case of another four families that was to be held on Monday was postponed for at least a month. If they lose the appeal, they could be forcibly evicted within days or weeks.

A woman from another family in Sheikh Jarrah said it was “an inhumane act” to take away someone’s home. She invited her parents to move in with her and her husband if they are evicted from the home where she was born and raised, but her father refused.

“He said there is no way I’m leaving this neighborhood unless I’m dead,” she said, requesting anonymity for fear of retribution by Israeli authorities. “It’s been 65 years that he’s lived in this neighborhood.”

Israel views all of Jerusalem as its unified capital and says residents are treated equally. But east Jerusalem residents have different rights depending on whether they are Jewish or Palestinian.

Jews born in east Jerusalem are automatically granted Israeli citizenship, and Jews from anywhere else in the world are eligible to become Israeli citizens.

Palestinians born in east Jerusalem are granted a form of permanent residency that can be revoked if they spend too much time living outside the city. They can apply for Israeli citizenship but must go through a difficult and uncertain bureaucratic process that can take months or years. Most refuse, because they do not recognize Israel’s annexation.

Palestinians are also treated differently when it comes to housing, which will make it difficult for the Sheikh Jarrah families to remain in Jerusalem if they are evicted.

After 1967, Israel expanded the city’s municipal boundaries to take in large areas of open land where it has since built Jewish settlements that are home to tens of thousands of people. At the same time, it set the boundaries of Palestinian neighborhoods, restricting their growth.

Today, more than 220,000 Jews live in east Jerusalem, mostly in built-up areas that Israel considers to be neighborhoods of its capital. Most of east Jerusalem’s 350,000 Palestinian residents are crammed into overcrowded neighborhoods where there is little room to build.

Palestinians say the expense and difficulty of obtaining permits forces them to build illegally or move to the occupied West Bank, where they risk losing their Jerusalem residency. Israeli rights groups estimate that of the 40,000 homes in Palestinian neighborhoods, half have been built without permits and are at risk of demolition.

In part due to the protests, Israel has come under international pressure over Sheikh Jarrah, with both the United States and the European Union expressing concern. Rights groups say the government can halt or postpone the evictions if it wants to.

In the meantime, Samira Dajani has planted her spring flowers in small pots that she’ll be able to take with her if she is forced from her home in August. The trees named for her and her siblings will have to stay. She says she tries not to think about it.

Also dino is lying when he says just a couple of people are at risk... the current order would evict 13 families and 17 children, and there are thousands of homes that could be evicted in the future.

Thousands? Link it. How many Jewish children and families would Hamas kill right now if they could? All of them! Hamas also launches rockets from schools, residential areas and hospitals, putting its own people at risk but you blame Israel more for the conflict. Currently zero Jews live in Palestinian Territories and just about zero throughout the Middle East sans Israel but yeah let’s blame Israel 100%. You are such an evil person.

It is a land dispute not an eviction.

I don't know how you explain the fact that every news article and the own Israeli court case calls it an eviction. The word "eviction" is in legal documents on the matter. I think you're just triggered by the word eviction. No, I'm not going to contradict how everyone talks about this issue just to make you feel better. It's the dictionary definition of an eviction.

Palestinians want Jews obliterated. You are upset because Israel won its wars and has the upper hand. Maybe we should have the Taliban move next door to you and see how you like it. You see the Palestinians as just innocent land owners. You’re wrong about that.

ALL PALESTINIANS WANT JEWS OBLITERATED???? Do you really believe that? CCCP, it's a bunch of families. I'm not defending Hamas or the militant people. I'm just talking about these people being evicted from their homes. What evidence is there that they are some anti-Jew killers?

Here's a logical exercise for you. If the people losing their homes were truly these Hamas anti-semites, why have they been living there for 80 years with no hate crimes, no violence against Jews, no slaughters.... There's no harm being done by them living there. You admitted that the only reason they are getting kicked out is because they are not Jewish. What did they do wrong? You've given me nothing, no reason to support innocent families being kicked out of their homes, forced out of the city they've lived in their entire lives simply because of their ethnicity.

Thousands? Link it.

You clearly didn't read the article because you don't want to hear the stories of people being forced out of their homes. It's in the article.
"That was the start of a long legal battle that in recent months has culminated with eviction orders against 36 families in Sheikh Jarrah and two other east Jerusalem neighborhoods. Israeli rights groups say other families are also vulnerable, estimating that more than 1,000 Palestinians are at risk of being evicted."
Later on it talks about how 20,000 Palestinian homes could also be at risk.

How many Jewish children and families would Hamas kill right now if they could? All of them! Hamas also launches rockets from schools, residential areas and hospitals, putting its own people at risk but you blame Israel more for the conflict.

I DO NOT BLAME ISRAEL 100% FOR THE ENTIRE CONFLICT!
I DO NOT BLAME ISRAEL 100% FOR THE ENTIRE CONFLICT!
I DO NOT BLAME ISRAEL 100% FOR THE ENTIRE CONFLICT!

Once again, the thing I blame Israel for is evicting these Palestinians, which they could easily choose not to do. You have given me ZERO reason to believe that Israel should evict them, nor have you given me anything that the Palestinians being evicted have done wrong.

It is ironic to me that CCCP is accusing others of being antisemites, while simultaneously defending a system where you aren't allowed to live in certain areas unless you are Jewish.

That's literal apartheid. But whatever. "jEwIsH sTaTe!!!!"

This is why I oppose ethnostates.

(and by the way, no one is telling Jews to move out or be less safe. Not all non-Jewish people want to murder Jews)

Posted by tangplay on 5/25/2021 11:38:00 AM (view original):

It is a land dispute not an eviction.

I don't know how you explain the fact that every news article and the own Israeli court case calls it an eviction. The word "eviction" is in legal documents on the matter. I think you're just triggered by the word eviction. No, I'm not going to contradict how everyone talks about this issue just to make you feel better. It's the dictionary definition of an eviction.

Palestinians want Jews obliterated. You are upset because Israel won its wars and has the upper hand. Maybe we should have the Taliban move next door to you and see how you like it. You see the Palestinians as just innocent land owners. You’re wrong about that.

ALL PALESTINIANS WANT JEWS OBLITERATED???? Do you really believe that? CCCP, it's a bunch of families. I'm not defending Hamas or the militant people. I'm just talking about these people being evicted from their homes. What evidence is there that they are some anti-Jew killers?

Here's a logical exercise for you. If the people losing their homes were truly these Hamas anti-semites, why have they been living there for 80 years with no hate crimes, no violence against Jews, no slaughters.... There's no harm being done by them living there. You admitted that the only reason they are getting kicked out is because they are not Jewish. What did they do wrong? You've given me nothing, no reason to support innocent families being kicked out of their homes, forced out of the city they've lived in their entire lives simply because of their ethnicity.

Thousands? Link it.

You clearly didn't read the article because you don't want to hear the stories of people being forced out of their homes. It's in the article.
"That was the start of a long legal battle that in recent months has culminated with eviction orders against 36 families in Sheikh Jarrah and two other east Jerusalem neighborhoods. Israeli rights groups say other families are also vulnerable, estimating that more than 1,000 Palestinians are at risk of being evicted."
Later on it talks about how 20,000 Palestinian homes could also be at risk.

How many Jewish children and families would Hamas kill right now if they could? All of them! Hamas also launches rockets from schools, residential areas and hospitals, putting its own people at risk but you blame Israel more for the conflict.

I DO NOT BLAME ISRAEL 100% FOR THE ENTIRE CONFLICT!
I DO NOT BLAME ISRAEL 100% FOR THE ENTIRE CONFLICT!
I DO NOT BLAME ISRAEL 100% FOR THE ENTIRE CONFLICT!

Once again, the thing I blame Israel for is evicting these Palestinians, which they could easily choose not to do. You have given me ZERO reason to believe that Israel should evict them, nor have you given me anything that the Palestinians being evicted have done wrong.

Name one mostly Muslim country that is not either a humanitarian, human rights or economic disaster or maybe all three? France is mostly French, Spain is mostly Spanish. Germany is mostly German. Russia is mostly Russian. China is mostly Chinese. Japan is mostly Japanese. But Israel cannot be mostly Jewish? Illogical

Now if Israel allows the Muslims to take majority then it will be like every other Muslim nation and not the prosperous nation it is today. You admitted that Israel is the safest place in the Middle East for a Muslim gay man or a Muslim woman. You also cannot read as I said it is a dispute, they aren't being evicted. But regardless, tell me, why would Israel ever want to stop being a majority Jewish country?

You seem to support terrorists. Pretty interesting. You don't really believe they are innocent. This is what these settlers are saying and believe. You thinks these Islamists aren't Sharia Law following zealots?

“We want all of Palestine, from the river to the sea,” she said as a group of Jewish settlers walked, under police protection, in front of her home. “There is no such thing called Israel.”

From an Israeli Citizen: “It’s totally unrealistic. Israel is the strongest military power in this region, and it’s not going to give up on itself,” he said. “I, as a liberal Israeli who wants peace, I will fight for my life against a one-state solution.”

This is the dispute: Refugees from cities within Israel proper, they were settled by Jordanian authorities shortly after Israel’s creation, on land that had been Jewish-owned before 1948. Israeli law, which doesn’t allow Palestinians who left Israel in 1948 to reclaim lost properties, permits previous owners to retake land that had been seized by the Jordanian government, as long as no new title exists. Hence the DISPUTE.

No Palestinian in the West Bank or Gaza younger than 37 has ever had a chance to vote. --- This is a DICTATORSHIP of TERROR!!

Palestinian POV: “We’re not saying we want to throw them in the sea. But if they want to live in this country, under the Palestinians—well, it’s our country, and they took it from us.”



This is why Israel does what it does.

Posted by tangplay on 5/25/2021 11:42:00 AM (view original):
It is ironic to me that CCCP is accusing others of being antisemites, while simultaneously defending a system where you aren't allowed to live in certain areas unless you are Jewish.

That's literal apartheid. But whatever. "jEwIsH sTaTe!!!!"

This is why I oppose ethnostates.

(and by the way, no one is telling Jews to move out or be less safe. Not all non-Jewish people want to murder Jews)

LOL that isn't irony. Look up the definition of the word.

Only people that hate Jews want them to live in a country where the majority are Arab Muslims in control of them and particularly ones who said they want all Jews to die......who are the ones who want to take it over.

but I live in the real world.