The Antisemitic Left Topic

If you were less anti Semitic you would want to protect one of the greatest countries in the history of Earth and want to prevent it from being taken over by its enemies.
5/26/2021 4:17 PM
Posted by cccp1014 on 5/26/2021 4:10:00 PM (view original):
Posted by tangplay on 5/26/2021 3:46:00 PM (view original):

Why did you bring my name into this?

I didn't? I never mentioned you until you came in.

I believe Biden cleanly won the election.

I'm glad. Do you think Trump knowingly lied about winning or is just dumb enough to be fooled?

You said I support them. I said I have zero military experience and would have relied on my secretary of war, who also could have suggested against it.

Well, considering that IRL the Secretary of War was for it, you would have supported it. See, I don't need military experience to believe that internment camps are bad.

What if the white supremacists in Brooklyn stabbed 20 Jews. Would you in Queens be vary of white supremacists there or shrug?

The reason why I compared Palestinians to black people is that neither are inherently bad, and both are inherent to you as a person. If you are born as a Palestinian, you can't change that, and it's OK. Same with being born black. You are NOT born as a white supremacist, and white supremacists are inherently bad, whether they are stabbing people or not. This is clearly a false comparison. I would be wary of white supremacists regardless of whether they are stabbing people.

The reason why you are uncomfortable with just changing "Jews" to "White people" and "Palestinians" to "Black people" while leaving the rest of the situation intact is that it clearly elucidates the lunacy of the settler's argument. If a one black person in Brooklyn stabbed some people, you wouldn't then decide to kick out all of the black people in Queens from their homes. But that's the exact thing you're saying about the Palestinians.

You are a hypocrite. You agreed it was a land dispute. Your issue is that you believe the court system is unfair. Yes or no? So if I am an Israeli citizen and I believe you settled my land illegally what should I do? Should I not go to the court system?

If I was an Israeli citizen, and Palestinians had been living in this neighborhood for 80 years, I wouldn't claim the land as my own and attempt to kick the Palestinians out. Even if I believed the land was "Jewish," I would understand that I wasn't even alive at the time that these land claims were made and that the Palestinians have lived there for decades, with zero harm being done to me. I would also understand that I'm fortunate to live in a safe haven, a great nation of Israel with plenty of other opportunities for me, including a home that I already live in. Meanwhile, the Palestinians might be kicked out of the city entirely because of segregationist housing policies, essentially deported to a nation that might hate them or treat them poorly. This might make them turn to Hamas, and perhaps put me in more danger in the long run. Finally, I would be disgusted by housing policies that discriminate against people based on their ethnicity. Even if that is Israel's land, I have no more right to it as a Jewish person than you do as a Palestinian.

Palestinians are not a minority. Neither were the blacks in South Africa.

Palestinians absolutely are a minority in Jerusalem and in Israel as a whole, the **** are you talking about? The reason I compared Israel to South Africa is that both states discriminate against people based on their ethnicity/race.

israel does not have apartheid.

Israel will not let you live in certain areas of Jerusalem if you aren't Jewish. They are currently trying to kick out Palestinians from their homes for not being Jewish. They absolutely segregate and discriminate. This is undeniable.

Another lie….page 1. You said or agreed with the point that Dino was being like cccp. You cannot even be honest about that. Adios. You’re a liar and an evil human being. Enjoy your life….


Until you grow up we have zero to discuss. I do hope we meet someday.
"Why did you bring my name into this" = "why did you agree with someone else who brought my name into this"

You're ******* obsessed. I didn't mention you until someone else did. Holy ****.
5/26/2021 4:38 PM
Posted by dino27 on 5/26/2021 4:35:00 PM (view original):
Palestinians don’t live in Israel unless you count East Jerusulam where they are the majority over Israeli Arabs and Jews. and Israel has always been ready to let it be part of the Palestinian state.
get it already or stop talking like you know anything.
israeli Arabs are descended from the Arabs who lived in Israel at the time of the partition and maybe a few Palestinians who crossed over.


only an agenda bent moron keeps calling settlers Israel. Shows total lack of intellectual honesty especially in light of what you learned today about the independent judiciary and you ignore the fact that the attorney general put this case to the Supreme Court.

segregation or discrimination as you put it exists in every democracy in the world where there are minorities. Sometimes ethnoneighborhoids develop out of tradition and need.

also some Palestinians can become Israeli citizens through the family reunification law.

jews lived in East Jerusulam before Jordan took it in 1948 and expelled a community of 1500.... now Jews live there again.
The settlers are Israeli and are backed by Israel's government. I don't blame all Israelis for what the settlers are doing, but their actions are very clearly sponsored by Netenyahu's government and the conservatives.

I didn't realize that black people were still banned from living in certain areas of the US. That's interesting. Even if your argument were true, that doesn't make segregation OK.
5/26/2021 4:40 PM
Posted by dino27 on 5/26/2021 4:17:00 PM (view original):
If you were less anti Semitic you would want to protect one of the greatest countries in the history of Earth and want to prevent it from being taken over by its enemies.
I didn't realize that kicking Palestinians out of their home was necessary to prevent Israel being "taken over by its enemies."
5/26/2021 4:41 PM
Posted by tangplay on 5/26/2021 4:41:00 PM (view original):
Posted by dino27 on 5/26/2021 4:17:00 PM (view original):
If you were less anti Semitic you would want to protect one of the greatest countries in the history of Earth and want to prevent it from being taken over by its enemies.
I didn't realize that kicking Palestinians out of their home was necessary to prevent Israel being "taken over by its enemies."
Always putting words into people’s mouths
because you are not a good thinker.
amateur essay boy.
5/26/2021 5:58 PM
Posted by tangplay on 5/26/2021 4:40:00 PM (view original):
Posted by dino27 on 5/26/2021 4:35:00 PM (view original):
Palestinians don’t live in Israel unless you count East Jerusulam where they are the majority over Israeli Arabs and Jews. and Israel has always been ready to let it be part of the Palestinian state.
get it already or stop talking like you know anything.
israeli Arabs are descended from the Arabs who lived in Israel at the time of the partition and maybe a few Palestinians who crossed over.


only an agenda bent moron keeps calling settlers Israel. Shows total lack of intellectual honesty especially in light of what you learned today about the independent judiciary and you ignore the fact that the attorney general put this case to the Supreme Court.

segregation or discrimination as you put it exists in every democracy in the world where there are minorities. Sometimes ethnoneighborhoids develop out of tradition and need.

also some Palestinians can become Israeli citizens through the family reunification law.

jews lived in East Jerusulam before Jordan took it in 1948 and expelled a community of 1500.... now Jews live there again.
The settlers are Israeli and are backed by Israel's government. I don't blame all Israelis for what the settlers are doing, but their actions are very clearly sponsored by Netenyahu's government and the conservatives.

I didn't realize that black people were still banned from living in certain areas of the US. That's interesting. Even if your argument were true, that doesn't make segregation OK.
Wrong again. The settlers are on their own not state sponsored but yes they do sometimes get funding.

you don’t believe that black people are not still segregated in some places in the USA by various ways ? You must be very naive or dumb and surely just a liar.
5/26/2021 6:22 PM (edited)
Israel has racism just like the USA has and has very strong laws to counter and make racism and discrimination unlawful.
they are working on their issues probably just as well if not better the USA.
5/26/2021 6:12 PM
I have never been asked my opinion on the settlements.
I agree with the Obama administrarion
but settlements are not equal to genocide or render Israel an evil regime because of them - again same as Obama administration.

people who go there are ignorant and anti semitic
and ignore the state of war since 1947.
5/26/2021 6:25 PM

Wrong again. The settlers are on their own not state sponsored but yes they do sometimes get funding.

lmao they're explicitly endorsed by the government. If Netanyahu wanted to shut this down he would change the laws that gives the settlers the ability to kick Palestinians out of their homes.

you don’t believe that black people are not still segregated in some places in the USA by various ways ?

Of course. But point me to the current law in the US that says black people cannot live in certain areas that are specifically designated for white people.

Israel has racism just like the USA has and has very strong laws to counter and make racism and discrimination unlawful.

Once again, Israel has very specific laws meant to discriminate and keep Palestinians out of certain areas. Seems like this is only getting stronger and more discriminatory.

5/26/2021 7:11 PM
They don’t have such laws involving their own citizens IN ISRAEL.
5/26/2021 7:16 PM
Don’t put it all on Netanyahu. Israel has 3 branches and no leader anymore can govern in their system without the settler bloc.

reality and history is pesky.
there was for a long time a pure yearning for peace from Israel but the constant rejection had consequences. I am not fabricating when I keep trying to state that the Israeli leaders during Clinton and shortly after literally warned the Palestinians that the country of Israel was starting to turn right and they were squandering their chance for a just peace for a long time and there would be serious consequences for them.
they would not listen so it became what it now is.

the settler bloc is now powerful. The last time they were forced to retract settlements was in 2005 when Israel dismantled 8000 settler homes in Gaza.

73 years of warfare and refusal to accept Israel as the Jewish state started in 1947 is the continuing disaster for the occupied Palestinians and people like you need to allocate facts and responsibility as well as to understand how people that still fight for the right to exist and be safe from a people that does not agree with their existence WILL eventually harden them.

you are not knowledgeable because you do not have perspective.

wisdom requires perspective.
case in point - many Arab countries no longer side with the Palestinians because they have come to agree that Israel really did want peace and the Palestinians rejected it and the Palestinians are their own worst enemy and the Palestinians are a pain in THEIR ***.
5/26/2021 7:35 PM (edited)
The Arab countries that now accept Israel once wanted to obliterate Israel. Now they move further and further away from the pals and don’t want their burden. In fact the pals are becoming isolated in the Middle East.
And the Palestinians are playing into the hands of Israeli right wing who have given up on a just or any kind of peace for a people who has never stopped hating them and is being abandoned by their own former benefactors.
5/26/2021 7:44 PM
Posted by tangplay on 5/26/2021 4:38:00 PM (view original):
Posted by cccp1014 on 5/26/2021 4:10:00 PM (view original):
Posted by tangplay on 5/26/2021 3:46:00 PM (view original):

Why did you bring my name into this?

I didn't? I never mentioned you until you came in.

I believe Biden cleanly won the election.

I'm glad. Do you think Trump knowingly lied about winning or is just dumb enough to be fooled?

You said I support them. I said I have zero military experience and would have relied on my secretary of war, who also could have suggested against it.

Well, considering that IRL the Secretary of War was for it, you would have supported it. See, I don't need military experience to believe that internment camps are bad.

What if the white supremacists in Brooklyn stabbed 20 Jews. Would you in Queens be vary of white supremacists there or shrug?

The reason why I compared Palestinians to black people is that neither are inherently bad, and both are inherent to you as a person. If you are born as a Palestinian, you can't change that, and it's OK. Same with being born black. You are NOT born as a white supremacist, and white supremacists are inherently bad, whether they are stabbing people or not. This is clearly a false comparison. I would be wary of white supremacists regardless of whether they are stabbing people.

The reason why you are uncomfortable with just changing "Jews" to "White people" and "Palestinians" to "Black people" while leaving the rest of the situation intact is that it clearly elucidates the lunacy of the settler's argument. If a one black person in Brooklyn stabbed some people, you wouldn't then decide to kick out all of the black people in Queens from their homes. But that's the exact thing you're saying about the Palestinians.

You are a hypocrite. You agreed it was a land dispute. Your issue is that you believe the court system is unfair. Yes or no? So if I am an Israeli citizen and I believe you settled my land illegally what should I do? Should I not go to the court system?

If I was an Israeli citizen, and Palestinians had been living in this neighborhood for 80 years, I wouldn't claim the land as my own and attempt to kick the Palestinians out. Even if I believed the land was "Jewish," I would understand that I wasn't even alive at the time that these land claims were made and that the Palestinians have lived there for decades, with zero harm being done to me. I would also understand that I'm fortunate to live in a safe haven, a great nation of Israel with plenty of other opportunities for me, including a home that I already live in. Meanwhile, the Palestinians might be kicked out of the city entirely because of segregationist housing policies, essentially deported to a nation that might hate them or treat them poorly. This might make them turn to Hamas, and perhaps put me in more danger in the long run. Finally, I would be disgusted by housing policies that discriminate against people based on their ethnicity. Even if that is Israel's land, I have no more right to it as a Jewish person than you do as a Palestinian.

Palestinians are not a minority. Neither were the blacks in South Africa.

Palestinians absolutely are a minority in Jerusalem and in Israel as a whole, the **** are you talking about? The reason I compared Israel to South Africa is that both states discriminate against people based on their ethnicity/race.

israel does not have apartheid.

Israel will not let you live in certain areas of Jerusalem if you aren't Jewish. They are currently trying to kick out Palestinians from their homes for not being Jewish. They absolutely segregate and discriminate. This is undeniable.

Another lie….page 1. You said or agreed with the point that Dino was being like cccp. You cannot even be honest about that. Adios. You’re a liar and an evil human being. Enjoy your life….


Until you grow up we have zero to discuss. I do hope we meet someday.
"Why did you bring my name into this" = "why did you agree with someone else who brought my name into this"

You're ******* obsessed. I didn't mention you until someone else did. Holy ****.
it's funny watchin dino turn into cccp
5/23/2021 9:42 PM


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5/24/2021 12:58 AM



You are a coward...that is all. I am an open book. You know exactly who I am. You talk smack behind anonymity. That makes you a coward.

We are officially done.
5/26/2021 8:22 PM
I post to correct what he says about Israel.
that is what is important to me.
I can dish out insults and I can take them.
5/26/2021 8:28 PM

They don’t have such laws involving their own citizens IN ISRAEL.

lmao what a ******* stretch. Non-Jews are not allowed to live in certain parts of Jerusalem. That's a fact.

Don’t put it all on Netanyahu. Israel has 3 branches and no leader anymore can govern in their system without the settler bloc.

Damn, so the settlers are an influential influence on the government, who supports the settlers? INTERESTING.

The entire rest of your post is essentially, "everyone else was mean to us so we HAD to discriminate." Sorry, discrimination is still wrong. Don't give a **** about your pity party.
5/26/2021 8:40 PM
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